Server merge


Arctic_Princess

 

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Probably this topic has been discussed, but i can't seems to find any treads. So I would like to start a fresh one, and I think maybe this section is the right one.

Seeing for the last year or so the number of people online on Union especially in Villains I can't help wondering wouldn't it be so much greater if all 4 Europian servers to merge in 1 or maybe 2. I would like to know how you palyers feel about it, and also how the officials think. Having little more then 100 people online in peak times (CoV) with more then 40 lvl 48+, and having barely only one team u can join without being lacked in lower levels, is not fun play in my opinion. I haven't tried other servers, but the situation on Union villains side is rather disappointing to say the least.

I really like this game. It's the best PvE game i have been playing, and maybe best PvE game there is in the world (ok i am being subjective). I wouldn't want to leave just because there are too few people online. That is why I would like to know if there are any plans for server merge or if there should be some threshold for minimum accounts on a server in order to be shutdown or merged.


 

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Probably this topic has been discussed

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Once or twice, yes
And the general opinion seems to be that it's not such a good idea, especially as a lot of people might lose their names.


@Golden Girl

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Probably this topic has been discussed, but i can't seems to find any treads.

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You're really not looking hard enough. Throw a stone, you're sure to hit one.

Ghostraptor, can we get a stickied message at the top of this board stating clearly why a server merge is a bad idea and why it's not going to happen? Might stop this bad penny coming up every two weeks.


@Dante EU - Union Roleplayer and Altisis Victim
The Militia: Union RP Supergroup - www.themilitia.org.uk

 

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A sticky outlining NCSofts current position on merges would be useful, but one proclaiming it to be a 'bad idea' I don't see happening. That's a pretty subjective opinion Dante. It would kinda tie their hands, and preclude any clever solution they may come up with to solve the downsides.

@Butik
The majority of the vocal opinion here is against the idea, as there are big reasons not to - mainly to do with names and SGs. The seemingly obvious 'but there would be more players around' argument doesn't cut much ice around here. Trying to start a serious thread on the topic is pointless, it's been gone over time and time again - you'll just get flames from both sides.

I'm bowing out of this one here.


 

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A sticky outlining NCSofts current position on merges would be useful, but one proclaiming it to be a 'bad idea' I don't see happening. That's a pretty subjective opinion Dante. It would kinda tie their hands, and preclude any clever solution they may come up with to solve the downsides.

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Forgive me, it's late at night and my nerves are a bit raw. But yes, what I meant was a sticky outlining NCSoft's current position. These threads never tend to end well I'm tired of seeing them.

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I'm bowing out of this one here.

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Good idea. I'm doing the same.


@Dante EU - Union Roleplayer and Altisis Victim
The Militia: Union RP Supergroup - www.themilitia.org.uk

 

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Please,no more!

Read frequent suggestions and just stop this nonsense


 

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Um, yeah. Very poor search-fu.

Not going to happen. Stated policy. Yadda.


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Ah, its the weekend...-goes back to sleep-


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Well. I am sorry I scattered some old skeletons here. But a link (if it is not too much to ask) of those discussions would be very much appreciated. I am maybe of few gamers here who do not care too much if my toon's name is Butik, B u t i k, Butik1, or Many for that matter. . I just want to play a quality MMORPG, and I can not do that without many people around. Now i know you might say it is not the quantity it's the quality that maters. But most of the time having only a handful of quality does less good, then having lots of quantity. In that quantity there ought to be more quality.

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Please,no more!

Read frequent suggestions and just stop this nonsense

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Maybe I am blind but I don't see anything in the "fequent suggestions" thread about server merges.


 

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OK. I am sorry once again. Found lots of discussion about this matter. Obviously I wasn't looking hard enough. If you feel that this topic is depleted please close and delete this one.


 

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A sticky outlining NCSofts current position on merges would be useful, but one proclaiming it to be a 'bad idea' I don't see happening. That's a pretty subjective opinion Dante. It would kinda tie their hands, and preclude any clever solution they may come up with to solve the downsides.



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NCSoft's policy on anything is denial followed closely by abject denial then a press release announcing the shutdown/merge of said product mentioned in the denial a few weeks previously. Well, judging by the TR shutdown anyway. Although to be fair that's pretty much how every company does it. Except Stark Industries.


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Sorry Butik - didn't mean to be such a drama queen.

It's just that this topic depresses me.
It also pops up with alarming frequency.

*coughs and switches to happy mode*

Get in touch with badgers, roleplayers, pvpers etc and I'm sure the servers won't look so empty.


 

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must....resist....


 

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must....resist....

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Defence is sometimes better, I just hit elude and go back to pictures of lolcats. Mind, one in 20 threads still hits me. Like this one.

Here, this might help.


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Get in touch with badgers, roleplayers, pvpers etc and I'm sure the servers won't look so empty.

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This.

For everyone who complains the servers are empty, there's another saying they aren't. If you pop down to Galaxy Girl's statue on Union most week nights it can be hard to find a place to sit down for all the roleplayers. Atlas Park is often littered with new characters and people dancing for no obvious reason under the statue. (And, yes, I know Union is supposed to have the higher population.)

Butik probably isn't reading any more, but if so, which server are you on?


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I am on Union. No offense for RP players, but my experience with them is that they are not for me. Again I am telling this only from my personal experience, almost all of them are bad players. They play slow, and lots of other stuff that makes my game bad. Now I don't want to start a fight about RP players, but telling me that i should look for a team beneath Galaxy girl's statue where almost all are RP players is not a definition of fun for me.

Heroes side is fine for teaming. It is Villains that i was complaining. The population there are about 3 times less then heroes.

So to conclude this. Heroes are not empty, Villains are.


 

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Try joining a few channels. It really helps getting the feel that the server is not empty. For Union I advise: Salsbadgehunters (probably spelled it wrong though). The channel is about hunting badges and doing all kind of TF's. Most people there are willing to do villain stuff as well. And even if you dont feel like doing a TF. The endless chatter will convince you that you are not alone out there.

And yes, perhaps the server merge should be inserted in the common suggestions. I am in full favour for it but it has been discussed often enough now.


 

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Heroes side is fine for teaming. It is Villains that i was complaining. The population there are about 3 times less then heroes.

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Generally villians are easier to solo than heroes for some reason. Possibly a lot of the villians are hiding because they want to solo - or maybe you're right and there are less villians than heroes. My preferred villin is my stalker and I find her easier to solo than team and I do tend to hide from searches when soloing...


 

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I am aware of public channels and I commonly use 2: union bage hunters and union task force. I know that villains are easier to solo, but that is just not me. I like to team. Even with a stalker or a MM i rarely play those toons solo. (that why they are year old but not lvl 50 yet). In my opinion if I am paying for MMO i like to play in teams. Otherwise I can just easily crack download a nice single player RPG.

Personally I prefer villains because of the more diverse playing style. But if there is noting NCsoft could do, then it's just the way things should be.


 

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Generally villians are easier to solo than heroes for some reason.

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I think that once you drop Masterminds and Empathy or Force Fields Defenders from consideration, it looks a lot more even.


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Butik,

Look me up of Union, I'm on most evenings, like to team and have a laugh. Just started a couple of toons on Villian side so might be up for joining you in a team.


 

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I like to team. Even with a stalker or a MM i rarely play those toons solo.

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Yes, I know that feeling and share your pain in this. The main reason i play heroes is just for the teaming experience. As Villain you have to solo most of the time unfortunately.


 

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True. Thematically, its sorta appropriate...
Reality wise its really infuriating at times
And then you get an 8 man Crab Spider team...and alllll the pain goes away...or at least in the oposite direction


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