Ninjitsu for Scrappers


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The title pretty much says it most of it.

But here is my view on it.
At first I was thinking of giving Scrappers a Ninjitsu powerset like Stalkers.
But after looking at the powerset over and over again, it made me think, that a ninja gotta have a [Hide] power and a [Smoke Flash] power to avoid danger.

So basicly the powerset would just be copy/pasted from the Stalkers to Scrappers.

Ofcause Stalkers would loose the uniqueness of being the only class with that powerset
But then again what does Scrappers have that no one else have?
[Rant Start]And Katana doesn't count, Stalkers got Ninja Blade. It's basicly the same.[/Rant End]


 

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I'd imagine when they get around to doing another bunch of powerset proliferation, that this would be one of the ones they'd do.

It'll happen one day, just no telling when.


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But after looking at the powerset over and over again, it made me think, that a ninja gotta have a [Hide] power and a [Smoke Flash] power to avoid danger.

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Hide is a specific Stalker ability, they wouldn't transfer it to Scrappers.


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No, Hide would be changed to a Stealth power. Smoke Flash would probably be turned into Smoke Grenade.


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Ofcause it wouldn't be called Hide. Maybe Stealth as PRAF68 said. Since part of the art of Ninjitsu is being able to go around stealthy/hidden.


 

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They could use superior invisibility from the controller set.


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Ofcause it wouldn't be called Hide. Maybe Stealth as PRAF68 said. Since part of the art of Ninjitsu is being able to go around stealthy/hidden.

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The point is not that it would not be called Hide, it would not be Hide. Hence, "that translate over without any changes" you mentioned back up in the first post: just not true. Scrapper's don't have a Placate either. Those powers would have to be replaced. Simple as that.

PS. If they did give Scrappers Ninjutsu, I'd be both happy and very irritated, since that's kind of what I wanted for my very first character back when the EU servers launched and there were no villains.


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But then again what does Scrappers have that no one else have?

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Emm....broadsword?

I don't think scrappers should get this. By the time they got round to changing all of the powers scrappers would have no use for, it would just be a weak SR clone.

If you want to play a ninjitsu character make a stalker! With the recent changes to stalkers they make more than viable 'scrappers' in large teams.


 

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Well eventually it will happen as to being a week SR clone not really it may have weaker def but it gains a self heal and a few tricks.

It would also probably have better defence values than the current incarnation of shield


 

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Sounds like a nice idea. More secondaries for everyone!


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Emm....broadsword?

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Doh >_<
I forgot about that.


 

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Smoke grenades are basically the same as blinding powder, perhaps one that causes hold that makes enemies choke and debuff thier perception

as for hide, well, ninjas need to be stealth so what if it was bumped up a few levels to tier 7 or 8 with an invisibility power


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Bit angry I can't edit my post anymore, since people seem to misunderstand it, or I explained it wrong.

I said "So basicly the powerset would just be copy/pasted from the Stalkers to Scrappers."
Didn't mean it's gonna be 100% the same.

I also said "have a [Hide] power and a [Smoke Flash] power", didn't say "have the [Hide] power and the [Smoke Flash] power"
Guess I should have said "have a hide-like power" >_<

Ofcause there is gonna be alterations to the powerset if it became useable to scrappers.

Anyway my bad.
Back on topic!


 

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Sorry but /Nin is the same as /SR but with ninja powers replacing certain SR moves. I.e. Practised Brawler.


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*checks* No, sorry, but I'm not seeing an AoE minor DoT -spd, self-heal, PBAoE placate, or Ranged (Cone) -Acc Sleep Confuse -Per powers anywhere in Super Reflexes. Want to double check in case I missed something?


 

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Sorry but /Nin is the same as /SR but with ninja powers replacing certain SR moves. I.e. Practised Brawler.

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*double checks* I'm not seeing the where it's the same either, and if that was the case, why do Stalkers get to choose between both?


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Sorry but /Nin is the same as /SR but with ninja powers replacing certain SR moves. I.e. Practised Brawler.

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Haha, I have to laugh at that.

There's a big difference between ninjuitsu and super reflexes.

nin = ninja style moves
super reflexes = doge everything that comes at you...


 

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I'd love to see a Ninja like powerset for scrappers...

I'd have to remake LN though.


 

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Sorry but /Nin is the same as /SR but with ninja powers replacing certain SR moves. I.e. Practised Brawler.

[/ QUOTE ]Self-Heal, Caltrops, PBAoE Placate, Confuse, less toggles, AoE defense available earlier, less overall defense, no scaling resists, no +recharge or slow/-rech resistance.

And Stalkers get both anyway.


 

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/signed

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it seems to me that the scrapper has just some clones of the same with IMO a bad on with it, and the stalker has the best sets for anyone that's suppose to attack fast.
doesn't that mean it's time for an overhaul because of an unbalance in the game?


 

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it seems to me that the scrapper has just some clones of the same with IMO a bad on with it, and the stalker has the best sets for anyone that's suppose to attack fast.
doesn't that mean it's time for an overhaul because of an unbalance in the game?

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...over-reacting much?


 

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it seems to me that the scrapper has just some clones of the same with IMO a bad on with it, and the stalker has the best sets for anyone that's suppose to attack fast.
doesn't that mean it's time for an overhaul because of an unbalance in the game?

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...over-reacting much?

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nope, if ppl are worrying about that hide has to be exclusive to stalkers, while scrappers have no special power, then there really is something wrong here...
not saying scrappers are bad, just that stalkers have all the good sides.


 

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it seems to me that the scrapper has just some clones of the same with IMO a bad on with it, and the stalker has the best sets for anyone that's suppose to attack fast.
doesn't that mean it's time for an overhaul because of an unbalance in the game?

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...over-reacting much?

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nope, if ppl are worrying about that hide has to be exclusive to stalkers, while scrappers have no special power, then there really is something wrong here...
not saying scrappers are bad, just that stalkers have all the good sides.

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People might be worried if Stalkers and Scrappers were even supposed to be the same. A stalker is in effect a melee range blaster, while a well constructed Stalker can scrap its certainly not what they're best at. Each AT has a niche and a supposed strength, while the CoH inherents were mainly added as an after thought as they were added to match the Inherents that came with CoV.

Besides if they were going to make scrappers more like any part of CoV it should be the Brute.