2 Things need sorting for Halloween Event 2009

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I was on a team in sharkhead and i think it took like 11 eochais to finally spawn him. Luckily we were more than 1 team. I think it's too random.

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I agree it is too random, and I like the idea that the chance of spawning Jack increases with every Eochai defeat/death. That should definitely be looked into for next year.

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broomstick temp flight power plx ;D

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I love that idea!

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Then make sure you pass it on - and ask them to change the "Malleus" badge to something a little more tactful too, please

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broomstick temp flight power plx ;D

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I love that idea!

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Well, in that case. Also a temp costume power of a traditional witch! Black point hat, black dress, look hooked nose with a wart, green skin... The whole works!

Oh, and the broomstick needs a black cat sat on the brush.

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Only if we can also have blue flying monkeys and guards with bearskin hats that hum Oooeeeooo, Oooh Oooh.

Fly my pretties, FLY! Ahahahaha!

*Ahem*, sorry - too much Wizard of Oz

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broomstick temp flight power plx ;D

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I love that idea!

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Well, in that case. Also a temp costume power of a traditional witch! Black point hat, black dress, look hooked nose with a wart, green skin... The whole works!

Oh, and the broomstick needs a black cat sat on the brush.

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Well, a proper witch hat would be nice - the one we have right now is way to big, and the general shape is just weird

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Well, a proper witch hat would be nice - the one we have right now is way too big, and the general shape is just weird

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Plus I think it makes you bald - so zero chance of animated hair there

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Well, a proper witch hat would be nice - the one we have right now is way too big, and the general shape is just weird

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Plus I think it makes you bald - so zero chance of animated hair there

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Which is a crime

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Lighthouse said it on the American forums after players complained about the spawn rate there.

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He said it was bugged and they "didn't have time to fix it" which, frankly I do not belive one bit.

I suspect the real motive behind it is to make it almost impossible to get all the halloween badges in a single halloween event, thus encouraging people to return next year no matter what else is happening, but why they could't just come clean I find pretty poor to be honest.

If I understand things correctly the event was only on the test server for 90 minutes. That may be significant in itself

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

That's a little far fetched

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broomstick temp flight power plx ;D

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I love that idea!

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Then make sure you pass it on - and ask them to change the "Malleus" badge to something a little more tactful too, please

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No! NoNonononono NO!! Do you have ANY idea how long it took to get that -BLEEP-ing thing?! I know a number of other people who hunted that badge for the specific reason that they wanted that title.
Bad GG, Bad! >.>

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Well, keep the title, but make it for something else - it's the witch connection that makes it not so good.
The witch badge could be called something like "Dispeller", or "Disenchanted" - the "Malleus" title could be moved to another badge, maybe for something in Cimerora, so the Latin word matches the culture

You lot do realise that the 'Malleus' title actually has a historical references with regarding witches apart from just being the latin translation.

The Malleus Maleficarum aka the Hammer of the the Witches.

A book used by Witch hunters and Inquisitors during the 15th century and was published to help local magistrates on how to 'deal' with the witch problem and also prove to people that witches really existed, were more often than not female and that only being a pious catholic christian would save you from them.

So in my view...Malleus can stay.

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You lot do realise that the 'Malleus' title actually has a historical references with regarding witches apart from just being the latin translation.

The Malleus Maleficarum aka the Hammer of the the Witches.

A book used by Witch hunters and Inquisitors during the 15th century and was published to help local magistrates on how to 'deal' with the witch problem and also prove to people that witches really existed, were more often than not female and that only being a pious catholic christian would save you from them.

So in my view...Malleus can stay.

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Rats, I was gonna say that so I could seem clever, but yea I think Malleus should stay cos its one of those well thought links that scatter CoX.

On topic - Also remove the debt from door spawns this would elimate alot of strife that occurs around the event and make it less annoying when people don't clear their spawns.

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On topic - Also remove the debt from door spawns this would elimate alot of strife that occurs around the event and make it less annoying when people don't clear their spawns.

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Or let's just remove debt full stop. After all, it'd be in keeping with the continued dumbing down of the games difficulty level.

*sigh* Come back Issue 3, where superheroes were super, and not paying attention would get you scragged all over the map.

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Lighthouse said it on the American forums after players complained about the spawn rate there.

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He said it was bugged and they "didn't have time to fix it" which, frankly I do not belive one bit.

I suspect the real motive behind it is to make it almost impossible to get all the halloween badges in a single halloween event, thus encouraging people to return next year no matter what else is happening, but why they could't just come clean I find pretty poor to be honest.

If I understand things correctly the event was only on the test server for 90 minutes. That may be significant in itself

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Yes, because people who leave will be magnetically drawn to return next year to hunt the badge, whether they want to or not. It's all part of NCNCs evil plan

Per-lease!!

This is a little left-field but maybe it has something to do with the fact there was only 2 weeks to spot, diagnose, fix, Quality Check, test and then patch it, and with the US Test Server currently unavailable since its tied up in Closed Beta it was deemed too risky to introduce the patch without open testing in case it broke something more serious and people really started screaming blue murder?

But the tin foil hat scenario you present is far more plausible...

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On topic - Also remove the debt from door spawns this would elimate alot of strife that occurs around the event and make it less annoying when people don't clear their spawns.

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Or let's just remove debt full stop. After all, it'd be in keeping with the continued dumbing down of the games difficulty level.

*sigh* Come back Issue 3, where superheroes were super, and not paying attention would get you scragged all over the map.

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Nooooooooo event/door spawns only whilst I'm not a fan of removing debt or making it less prominent, it is also unfair on those poor ToT'er who have been 'harrased', and as others have discussed several other occurences to try and stop this from happening, I just think thats a small solution.

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On topic - Also remove the debt from door spawns this would elimate alot of strife that occurs around the event and make it less annoying when people don't clear their spawns.

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Or let's just remove debt full stop. After all, it'd be in keeping with the continued dumbing down of the games difficulty level.

*sigh* Come back Issue 3, where superheroes were super, and not paying attention would get you scragged all over the map.

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Nooooooooo event/door spawns only whilst I'm not a fan of removing debt or making it less prominent, it is also unfair on those poor ToT'er who have been 'harrased', and as others have discussed several other occurences to try and stop this from happening, I just think thats a small solution.

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1. I was being tongue in cheek, hence the smiley.
2. They've got legs haven't they? They've got travel powers haven't they? (OK, maybe not always) RUN AWAY! I do!

Or change the door-spawns to match the invasion code, with mobs scaling like GM's, preventing grief in the first place because let's face it; some people are just inconsiderate ignorant bastards.

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You lot do realise that the 'Malleus' title actually has a historical references with regarding witches apart from just being the latin translation.

The Malleus Maleficarum aka the Hammer of the the Witches.

A book used by Witch hunters and Inquisitors during the 15th century and was published to help local magistrates on how to 'deal' with the witch problem and also prove to people that witches really existed, were more often than not female and that only being a pious catholic christian would save you from them.

So in my view...Malleus can stay.

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I know what it comes from - that's why I think it's tactless and unsuitable.
It was a totally evil book, that lead to the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent women - so linking a badge to it is just not right.
The original badge for defeating Family Bosses had the Italian flag on it, until it was pointed out to the devs that it was maybe not very tactful - so I don't see why they can't change this one, which is far worse in terms of what it refers to.

And men, and children. It wasn't just limited to women.

Yea plus its probably that great friend of ours - time. Whilst Italians still exist, those that have any connection to the witch hunts are now gone (well kind of my research into the subject for uni found some pretty frightening contempory stories). I'm sure if I picked a modern female serial killer instead of Elizabeth Bathory I'd probably have been generic'd. Same if someone made a Hitler toon, and 5th Columists got their change due to it being too soon and could cause offence.

The witch hunts however are centuries old altho thousands across Europe lost their lives, I don't think it impacts us as much as something like the holocaust.

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You lot do realise that the 'Malleus' title actually has a historical references with regarding witches apart from just being the latin translation.

The Malleus Maleficarum aka the Hammer of the the Witches.

A book used by Witch hunters and Inquisitors during the 15th century and was published to help local magistrates on how to 'deal' with the witch problem and also prove to people that witches really existed, were more often than not female and that only being a pious catholic christian would save you from them.

So in my view...Malleus can stay.

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I know what it comes from - that's why I think it's tactless and unsuitable.
It was a totally evil book, that lead to the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent women - so linking a badge to it is just not right.
The original badge for defeating Family Bosses had the Italian flag on it, until it was pointed out to the devs that it was maybe not very tactful - so I don't see why they can't change this one, which is far worse in terms of what it refers to.

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All = Politcal Correctness
Political Correctness (power of N) = guff
It sounds cool, it works for certain characters, its based on defeating indisputibly EVIL wtiches.

Game does not = real life

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

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And men, and children. It wasn't just limited to women.

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It was mostly women though - they were thought to be more easily turned to evil than men.

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Yea plus its probably that great friend of ours - time. Whilst Italians still exist, those that have any connection to the witch hunts are now gone (well kind of my research into the subject for uni found some pretty frightening contempory stories). I'm sure if I picked a modern female serial killer instead of Elizabeth Bathory I'd probably have been generic'd. Same if someone made a Hitler toon, and 5th Columists got their change due to it being too soon and could cause offence.

The witch hunts however are centuries old altho thousands across Europe lost their lives, I don't think it impacts us as much as something like the holocaust.

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The "happened a long time ago" angle doesn't really hold up - a crime is a crime, no matter when it happened - it doesn't become less evil as time passes.

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Yea plus its probably that great friend of ours - time. Whilst Italians still exist, those that have any connection to the witch hunts are now gone (well kind of my research into the subject for uni found some pretty frightening contempory stories). I'm sure if I picked a modern female serial killer instead of Elizabeth Bathory I'd probably have been generic'd. Same if someone made a Hitler toon, and 5th Columists got their change due to it being too soon and could cause offence.

The witch hunts however are centuries old altho thousands across Europe lost their lives, I don't think it impacts us as much as something like the holocaust.

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The "happened a long time ago" angle doesn't really hold up - a crime is a crime, no matter when it happened - it doesn't become less evil as time passes.

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*shrugs*

Depends if it can be called a crime or not, I mean after all slaying a few heretics to force the community tighter together could be seen as something of a necessity in times of strife.

Just because we're all enlightened and stuff these day's doesn't mean we can judge the actions of our ancestors from today's comfortable living standards.

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You lot do realise that the 'Malleus' title actually has a historical references with regarding witches apart from just being the latin translation.

The Malleus Maleficarum aka the Hammer of the the Witches.

A book used by Witch hunters and Inquisitors during the 15th century and was published to help local magistrates on how to 'deal' with the witch problem and also prove to people that witches really existed, were more often than not female and that only being a pious catholic christian would save you from them.

So in my view...Malleus can stay.

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I know what it comes from - that's why I think it's tactless and unsuitable.
It was a totally evil book, that lead to the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent women - so linking a badge to it is just not right.
The original badge for defeating Family Bosses had the Italian flag on it, until it was pointed out to the devs that it was maybe not very tactful - so I don't see why they can't change this one, which is far worse in terms of what it refers to.

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All = Politcal Correctness
Political Correctness (power of N) = guff
It sounds cool, it works for certain characters, its based on defeating indisputibly EVIL wtiches.

Game does not = real life

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And as these in-game witches are evil, it makes no sense at all to have the badge title linked to the mass murder of aledged "witches" in real life.
To make sense, "Malleus" should be awarded for beating up random female NPCs or female avatars - the in-game witches are a fantasy, so the badge shouldn't be tied to a real life reference to witches.
There's plenty of chances for them to add cool Latin badge titles in Cimerora.