Increasing lvl cap, is it to be done?
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Posted on: 2008-10-17 22:43 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Sorry for going OT, I mean the 3 of each type in a power mate, but a few more lots would be cool, not so you could six slot all powers just like a few more obtainable ones for sets.
May be a dumb idea
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If you use a few of the 2/3/4 attribute IO's you can free up a slot or 2 
For example putting 3 lvl 50 heal IOs in health is a total waste, 2 lvl 50s would be roughly 90% of the benefit from 3.
Though the default slot is probably all you really need in health.
Sorry for the derailment :P
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For example putting 3 lvl 50 heal IOs in health is a total waste, 2 lvl 50s would be roughly 90% of the benefit from 3.
Though the default slot is probably all you really need in health.
Sorry for the derailment :P
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Not a total waste. The last one will only give you a 15% enhancement or so compared to 40ish but that 15% could still be useful.
For example my Fire/Rad has Stamina 4 slotted, 3 End Mod IOs. The last one gives only a 15% enhancement but for such a End hungry toon that 15% is very necessary and valuble (4th slot is the Performance Shifter PROC).
Thanks for the advice, just figured how i can free up 4 at least 
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T2. 50 has been set as the max level and people are maxing as much as they can on their builds. With lvl 50 purples and other recipes. If the cap was raised it would make all the work in perfecting your character worth nill. And you would have to start again.
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Why do people keep saying this?
Set IO bonuses or indeed the effectiveness of IOs does not change with level. While the devs may or may not add new sets with or without a level cap increase the current purple sets while perhaps not as good as future sets will not suddenly become worthless.
I double-slotted Health on my main... but then again, I did happen to have a Numina's Convalescence +Rech/+Rec and a Numina's Conv (Heal) kicking around.
Back On Topic, though.
The survey that was done of some players in the US earlier on this year was just that - a survey. It was for things that the devs might want to include in the game at some point in the future. I strongly suspect that the technical feasibility of things like the 'Global Enhancement Slots' is already clear - why ask if players would like something that you can't or might not be able to do? -so it becomes a case of squeezing it into the builds as and when it fits with the development plan for the game.
I think that 'Global Enhancement Slots' is a FANTASTIC idea, personally. Consider at the most basic level: Up to 10 slots available (that you have to earn, perhaps by doing a new L50-only TF to get each one, with some requirement to be able to unlock that TF) that can take 'Ordinary' (non-set) Enhancements that then affect your ENTIRE build. Preferably Exemp-proof, but that might be me being greedy.
Triple-slot Damage, Triple-slot Accuracy, Double-slot Rec Red, Double-slot End Red on a damage-dealer.
I can't actually think of anything more awesome than that for a significant power-boost, and if high-level content is expanded to cope (like, say, the oft-requested 6th difficulty, or some missions against Arachnos for heroes - sorry, I tend to think of heroes only - outside the STF and radio mishes), then this would be a great boost and incentive for people to grab their 50s.
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For some reason people feel that they need to have full purple sets in all the powers that can take them, regardless of the set bonus they provide (don't know why).
All my alts are more than overpowered and not a single one has a purple IO, let alone a full set.
I have a purple IO slotted! Just the one, and I didn't buy it. Why would you buy one? But I've got one. Oh yeah, I iz t3h pwnz0rz.
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For some reason people feel that they need to have full purple sets in all the powers that can take them, regardless of the set bonus they provide (don't know why).
All my alts are more than overpowered and not a single one has a purple IO, let alone a full set.
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Well thats good for you, but keep in mind that what you think is overpowered may not be what everyone thinks, purple sets imo are worth having for only one thing pvp as this is where every little bit helps.
I like purple sets but i dont feel that i need them in every power that can take them, i only have them if they give me back the return for the cost. So dont knock it until you tried it.
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I have a purple IO slotted! Just the one, and I didn't buy it. Why would you buy one? But I've got one. Oh yeah, I iz t3h pwnz0rz.
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Pvp is why most buy them as im taking a stab in the dark here but i bet you dont pvp so i have some doubt you are the pwnz0rz, again i say to you dont knock them until you tried them, they do give so very nice returns for the cost and for good pvp just like tesco every little helps.
The moment my toons hit lvl 50 I consider them done and finished. Occasionally I dust them of to hunt some badges. But I am not interested in farming for rare purples. I am not interested in PvP. Because the AT's I got are not the best ones for PvP. The storyarcs are finished or nearly so and I find it impossible to actually do the effort to finish em.
It is a pity actually, i liked leveling up those toons and i would like to have good reasons to continue playing them. Unfortunately the current things are not IT for me.
Of course that leaves me to altism. Which is nice but eventually fun toons hit that evil wicked 50 again and they will be mothballed as well.
So if they decide to make things more interesting for me at lvl 50 i will be interested. Leveling up from 50 to 60 would be something I wouldnt mind doing.
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For some reason people feel that they need to have full purple sets in all the powers that can take them, regardless of the set bonus they provide (don't know why).
All my alts are more than overpowered and not a single one has a purple IO, let alone a full set.
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Once I have a toon fully crammed with normal level 35 IO's (equal to an SO at least), influence becomes essentially needless to me.
Trying to get my toon filled with expensive full sets of Crushing Impact (I love this set) and the like is rather like a somewhat engaging minigame for me. When I get a little tired of turning the Bad Guy Of The Week into dogfood, I go mess around with salvage, recipes and influence for a bit.
I want a purple set in everything I can because....I just do!
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Yup, I agree with Khorak, collecting IOs is just something to do once you hit 50.
Although Purples are good when enhancement slots are scarce, because of thier larger bonus. Wouldn't slot them all in the same power though, that would be a waste.
I really should do something about this signature.
I'd slot purples as they fall, if they were necessary. Though saying that: some of them (not the most desired of course) are incredibly cheap nowadays.
Yep I know it's off topic, though this is more of an evolution.
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It is a great pity there isn't more to do once you have a character at 50, that is certainly a worthwhile place to develop content imo but I think extending the cap is the worse possible way to acheve it.
In fact 40+ I find the game has lost all character and you just have your head down soulessly grinding out mission after mission (its saved by some of the great people you meet along the way however), the patron arcs are awful, completely out of character for any villian, their powersets as 'rewarded' are dull, generic and inconsistent with your chosen AT.... and don't get me started on GV as a location..... hmm yep I could almost agree to dropping the cap to 40 ^^
Nah I like the patron arcs, plus some of the best story arcs are 40+ (Television, Vernon Von Grun, Viridian....)
True the powers can be a bit naff in places, but there are some great ones too (soul storm: how do I love thee, let me count the ways.) Once again it's horses for courses I guess.
Though I agree that lifting the level cap wouldn't solve much.
I don't wanna save my soul now,
I just wanna lose control,
And even if it takes a lifetime, to learn:
I'll learn!
As far as I can see the only thing worth getting from purples is the global recharge bonus (generally only requires 3 or so from a set) and damage procs.
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As far as I can see the only thing worth getting from purples is the global recharge bonus (generally only requires 3 or so from a set) and damage procs.
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Erm, the 10% recharge is normally the (5)th bonus
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the patron arcs are awful
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I have a purple IO slotted! Just the one, and I didn't buy it. Why would you buy one? But I've got one. Oh yeah, I iz t3h pwnz0rz.
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Pvp is why most buy them as im taking a stab in the dark here but i bet you dont pvp so i have some doubt you are the pwnz0rz, again i say to you dont knock them until you tried them, they do give so very nice returns for the cost and for good pvp just like tesco every little helps.
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Ok lets be honest.
Why getting even more UBARZ? Its not as if there is much use for those L33T IO's except maybe going through mobs in 19 instead of 20 seconds.
So what is my motivation to spend hours and hours farming for something I will never need to or use?
The same reason there is for doing ANYthing in life, personal gratification. Not everyone is driven by it, but many many people are.
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Yeah but to what purpose? Bragging rights? I don't see it. I would much prefer newer challenges and yes gaining levels.
Admittedly I don't spend much time doing PvP. Seems pointless as far as I can see, when I do decide to PvP I go to Sirens Call as that zone is the most fun.
Uber purple set bounses don't work there as far as I know so meh.
Sorry for going OT, I mean the 3 of each type in a power mate, but a few more lots would be cool, not so you could six slot all powers just like a few more obtainable ones for sets.
May be a dumb idea