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1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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You dont HAVE to do anything. Why do some people in life drive Porsche's and others walk?
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1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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You don't.
You can get a good build on SO's. (remember those? those things you buy from shops/quartermasters after level 22/contacts)
I've got tanks that have tanked everything in the game barring Hamidon on nothing but SO's, blasters that still do silly amounts of damage, scrappers that are durable and kick out damn good damage, a MM that casually strolls through 99% of anything the game throws at him and so on and so forth. And even with Hami, IO's would make approximately zero difference.
To get an exceptional build, you may need x million inf, whatever the figure is these days. But a good, solid build requires only SO's.
Inventions are an optional part of the game, nothing about them is mandatory, even if you could easily get the opinion to the contrary from reading the boards.
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The above post may contain Cynicism, sarcasm and/or pessimism. If you object to the quantities contained, then tough.
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K I've been waiting ages for my 'why' questions to be answered...mostly because I haven't asked them yet. That is what am I going to do now.
As a player, you simply wonder 'why'. Of course, wondering isn't going to help any, is it? You've really got to know why the devs do these things. Maybe my fellow forumites can understand why these things happen?
1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
2. Why do the people who explore usually don't get anything for it. I'm a avid explorer of the areas in the game, but really, there's not that many exploration badges to attract explorers. The only one I can really think of is Egg Hunter. The rest are really well put at random locations. The explorers should be rewarded for exploring, but it seems like a bit of a far away dream.
Why?
I think that's all I can think of for now, I'll think of more 'why' questions a little later. For now, respond with an answer or no answer. Because every post counts, they say.
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Well you dont need 700 mill for a good pve build so going on what you have posted id guess you pve so why would you need a 700 mill pve build?
Also for for pvp 700 mill is not that much about 1.5 billion should get you what you want.
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But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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Also this, why moan about what others have, they have spent the time grinding for the inf they spend on there toons, if you want the same then put the time in and it shall be yours.
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1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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You don't.
You can get a good build on SO's. (remember those? those things you buy from shops/quartermasters after level 22/contacts)
I've got tanks that have tanked everything in the game barring Hamidon on nothing but SO's, blasters that still do silly amounts of damage, scrappers that are durable and kick out damn good damage, a MM that casually strolls through 99% of anything the game throws at him and so on and so forth. And even with Hami, IO's would make approximately zero difference.
To get an exceptional build, you may need x million inf, whatever the figure is these days. But a good, solid build requires only SO's.
Inventions are an optional part of the game, nothing about them is mandatory, even if you could easily get the opinion to the contrary from reading the boards.
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Yeah but I never really got into SO's IO's are pretty much better in terms of like Set Bonuses and stuff. OK lets put it specifically IO then.
Also, none fo you have answered the 2nd question :P shame on you!
I agree with Phantom on the exploration front, while the exploration badges and collection badges are cool and all, they offer little else. Perhaps turn the badge collection badges into accolades, at least, the high end ones (ie 100, 200 and higher if they get introduced)
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I agree with Phantom on the exploration front, while the exploration badges and collection badges are cool and all, they offer little else. Perhaps turn the badge collection badges into accolades, at least, the high end ones (ie 100, 200 and higher if they get introduced)
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Perhaps a 'Super Explorer' accolade which gives you a power which can help you detect Exploration badges near you? It probably wouldnt happen but hey its a idea!
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2. Why do the people who explore usually don't get anything for it. I'm a avid explorer of the areas in the game, but really, there's not that many exploration badges to attract explorers. The only one I can really think of is Egg Hunter. The rest are really well put at random locations. The explorers should be rewarded for exploring, but it seems like a bit of a far away dream.
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suppose they could add a lot more exploration badges into the game but that'll take next to no time to obtain, think what your after is more zone mini events? If not the only positive thing i can think of to come from constant exploring is well for roleplay purposes or snazzy screenshots.
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1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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Only farm if you want to min/max your build 
Your characters throughout their career should have way more than enough to set your character up either with generic IOs or SOs. Most people who farm are doing so to either max out their pvp toons or to set their new toons up fully enhanced from the getgo.
Works like a small inheritence (oh however you spell it, cba 
) really doesnt it.
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I agree with Phantom on the exploration front, while the exploration badges and collection badges are cool and all, they offer little else. Perhaps turn the badge collection badges into accolades, at least, the high end ones (ie 100, 200 and higher if they get introduced)
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Perhaps a 'Super Explorer' accolade which gives you a power which can help you detect Exploration badges near you? It probably wouldnt happen but hey its a idea!
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yeah but once you're up to that level, you've already got the majority of badges so what's the point. maybe a couple of special emotes?
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1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
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Take influence. Replace it with currency from your game of choice. Apply it to equipment or skills. Apply to every other MMO out there. Because the game makes you do time sinks and grins to get to that level so you can have the edge against other players.
Darn it, Stasis decides to leave and you come back... could the forums get any worse?
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I agree with Phantom on the exploration front, while the exploration badges and collection badges are cool and all, they offer little else. Perhaps turn the badge collection badges into accolades, at least, the high end ones (ie 100, 200 and higher if they get introduced)
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Perhaps a 'Super Explorer' accolade which gives you a power which can help you detect Exploration badges near you? It probably wouldnt happen but hey its a idea!
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Its already in its called VidiotMaps pack.
As for the rest the maps are too small with all our travel powers to make exploration particularly interesting.
Granted, with work not letting me play as much as I'd like I am content to go with the flow (if I get a drop great, if I don't - well next time)
I am trying to get Mr ? sorted first but with altitis its proving hard
at the end of it, its all fun (apart from the work bit)
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MaX has said he's coming back at some point in the future
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They were appropriately appalled
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That's life
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That's what they say... (My god I feel a song coming on!!!)
OP: 700mil is cheap and it's called The Free Market Economy you know, that thing which made the western world what it is today... So clearly a massive success then
As many have pointed out it's not mandatory but it is there to give your level 50s something to do - and does give the PVP community something to aim for - it also provides your characters with a bit more uniqueness. You play one AT, 2 power sets, but with IOs you can adjust the potency of your attacks depending on how you view your build.
And the badges are there to be explored but somebody made a nice map and application so nobody bothers "exploring" any longer. And your characters might not know where the badges are but once you've done it twice, then you as a player will have a rough idea where many badges are. So unless you advocate random placement of badges every day...
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But luckily get a GA tank with 1.8 trillion INF spent on it and it can be safely taunted at range.
To the OP: Maybe, just maybe, you think you need x million INF to get a good build because you've been reading your own 'how to get a good build on the cheap' guides and it's as factual as your previous guides are.
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MaX has said he's coming back at some point in the future
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I've not seen him around for a bit - was he called back to his home planet?
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MaX has said he's coming back at some point in the future
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I've not seen him around for a bit - was he called back to his home planet?
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We can but hope
It is worse cause im back formely known as katinas1 aka snow yeti,the hero you love to hate!! now if that doesnt bring stasis back i dont know what will!! 
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why oh does my bum look big in lycra?
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Trick question, right?
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MaX has said he's coming back at some point in the future
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Huzzah I say!
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K I've been waiting ages for my 'why' questions to be answered...mostly because I haven't asked them yet. That is what am I going to do now.
As a player, you simply wonder 'why'. Of course, wondering isn't going to help any, is it? You've really got to know why the devs do these things. Maybe my fellow forumites can understand why these things happen?
1. Why do we have to get 700 mil or whatever to get a 'good' build? I feel this system is downright pants, why should I need to farm every spare time I get to get decent builds. I have nothing against farmers and I do occasinally farm. But I just feel the farmers who like to farm a lot have a edge over people who dont farm, espicially in PvP. Why?
2. Why do the people who explore usually don't get anything for it. I'm a avid explorer of the areas in the game, but really, there's not that many exploration badges to attract explorers. The only one I can really think of is Egg Hunter. The rest are really well put at random locations. The explorers should be rewarded for exploring, but it seems like a bit of a far away dream.
Why?
I think that's all I can think of for now, I'll think of more 'why' questions a little later. For now, respond with an answer or no answer. Because every post counts, they say.