Which sets will work with Shields?
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Arctic Man,
Posted on: 2008-08-31 16:01 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/W...ion#Broadsword
It does, you just have to unlock it
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one thing about people saying more time doing other tech developmentss, it could be that to get those other techs working correctly they need to impliment other features or adapt current tech to fit, and shield are a halfway house to it, so by making shields they test technology and also open up avenue to make further tech to allow other things like real gun katas rather than just 'dual pistols' which (after playing the MM version and seeing all the other dual gun characters in game) looks pretty dull unless they bring something extra to it.
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The Broadsword katana is unlockable by killing Tsoo.
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Well that's dumb. I need to recreate my 50 as a BS user and kill a lot of Tsoo. I always hated the fact that katana is left-handed. It's just wrong.
PS. Katana and shield is just wrong too, to be honest.
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further tech to allow other things like real gun katas rather than just 'dual pistols'
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Gun Kata = dual pistols/SR.
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nope, gun kata has a lot more to it than pointing guns forward and shooting one or the other... which is what dual pistols is and would be if they introduced it right now as a set...
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nope, gun kata has a lot more to it than pointing guns forward and shooting one or the other... which is what dual pistols is and would be if they introduced it right now as a set...
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Gun Kata is a martial art (though I doubt anyone has actaully done the study to make it real) based upon the bu-jitsu style of multiple martial forms. Training is given in unarmed forms, kenjutsu, iaijutsu, and effective use of ballistic weapons. This is combined with statistical study of combat situations to determine the most likely reactions of combatants and reduce the probability of being hit in a fire fight.
To incorporate all of that into a single set, or even a pair of sets, is unlikely.
Making 'dual pistols' as you describe would be, frankly, waste. I would expect a number of AoE attacks with swept autofire, as well as some straight single and double shot (or burst) attacks. To be 'gun kata' it would also need a barrage of defensive abilities and these are better off put into a second set. To be honest, I think SR covers it nicely since the principle is simply that of avoiding being hit by not being where the bullets are.
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I'm quite impressed that lolpistols managed to come up in a thread about shield power sets. The power of 'lulz gun kata am teh winnah' is truly frightening to behold.
Pity it's also complete rubbish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Kata
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Gun kata is a cinematic martial art constructed to create visually appealing gunfights and not to reflect reality. Gun battles in the real world revolve around cover, concealment, and lines of fire, which are dictated by terrain and thus inherently unpredictable, as opposed to statistically predictable positions and lines of fire that can be exploited by rote memorization, as depicted in Equilibrium.
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It'll be interesting to see what double-fisted head-crunch (e.g. Total Focus, Smashing Haymaker) looks like with a shield.
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further tech to allow other things like real gun katas rather than just 'dual pistols'
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Gun Kata = dual pistols/SR.
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*shoots you in the face*
NO!
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further tech to allow other things like real gun katas rather than just 'dual pistols'
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Gun Kata = dual pistols/SR.
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*shoots you in the face*
NO!
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*Is not where the bullet goes, when it passes.* (ranged +DEF will do that for you)
If you're referring to the final fight sequence with the wing chun-style batting the gun away, then there is precedent for including that into an offensive set. Katana and BS have their parry powers, which cause +DEF on a successful hit.
Good grief people, it's a fantasy game! It's the absolute epitome of cinematic combat. Yes, Gun Kata as it stands is a load of baloney, but it fits most effictively into a comic book genre game.
And it would not work with Shields. 
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Yes, Gun Kata as it stands is a load of baloney, but it fits most effictively into a comic book genre game.
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Batman vs Cleric John Preston was a pretty epic fight, after all. And John Preston vs the League of Shadows.
You mean like I'm a superhero, but I can't shoot you with my guns unless you are closer than 5'!?
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You mean like I'm a superhero, but I can't shoot you with my guns unless you are closer than 5'!?
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What range are Spines attacks?
Not saying I like it as a melee set, cos I don't. It would mean 'rewriting' the concept behind Scrappers/Tankers/Brutes/Stalkers, which is that they are melee characters.
Of course there's that 'proposed' Spy AT and they could do anything with that.
But even if they did, dual pistols would not work with Shields.
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What range are Spines attacks?
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Impale has a range of 40', Throw spines, 30' everything else is the standard 5'.
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What range are Spines attacks?
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Impale has a range of 40', Throw spines, 30' everything else is the standard 5'.
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Hmmm... would Spines work with a Shield? It's going to look odd.
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Batman vs Cleric John Preston was a pretty epic fight, after all. And John Preston vs the League of Shadows.
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But not nearly as epic as Batman vs Cleric John Prescott would be.
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has any one come to mind that it might disappear as magically as it re-appears? I mean until we get quivers and sword holders as such I really dont see much problem with 2h attacks though I can see the exception of DB and claws ofc.
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Eagles claw/dragon tail is going to look stupid with a shield on your arm
shields = /unsigned imo, couldv put better use of time to create a powerset that could be more widely used like dual pistols/staff/water control/energy control/steel armour etc etc.
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My thoughts exactly. While Devs bring that old excuse everytime people ask somethings they put resources and time onto something that limited. So except Mission Creator i13 is a big "meh" for me for now. (Keep in mind i don't play villians 
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I must say the same.
If they will limit dual blades and such to use shields then they should limit the other sets that have 2 hand attacks aswell.
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When the whole discussion that shields will clip and what not is a pretty moot discussion.
BaB have said on numerous occassion that in order for shields to work they will have to alter the animations for alot of powers which is why it has taken so long.
They've always been very attentive to details when they added something, they wouldn't have just added shields and not change certain animations, where shields would clip badly. BaB posted as far back as issue 11 when we got dual blades and willpowers that shields would be too much work cause they would have to go back and redone animations for other powers so it would work with shields.
I would love to see Sheilds implimented like This.
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Batman vs Cleric John Preston was a pretty epic fight, after all. And John Preston vs the League of Shadows.
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But not nearly as epic as Batman vs Cleric John Prescott would be.
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Would be the first time I'd be cheering Batman on in a fight
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
The Broadsword katana is unlockable by killing Tsoo.
I really should do something about this signature.