Lag on Union

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Out of interest, any of the Defiant guys notice any issues there?


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Red spikes all over the place

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Well I've been playing on defiant most of the weekend and have been experiencing some lag, mission loads, chat and power lag. But no where near the lag I experienced on Union on sunday evening when I logged in for a respec trial (and all the team were experiencing the problems, regardless of isp, system etc). Some of the ping times mentioned were awful, even those based in Germany. At times it was almost unbearable, the same symptons as above, just multiplied by 5. I then went back to defiant afterwards and all was fine again.

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It's happening on both Defiant and Union. The "peak" on Saturday that I mentioned happened on when I was on Defiant Villains.

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Did a TF on union on saturday night and it felt very laggy. Warped around, powers not firing etc. Had played on defiant most of the day before without any lag or issues whatsoever.

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There is a way to remove some of the lag and if you have an older machine these can make a major difference.

[u]Reducing Lag:[u]
[u]Normal Gameplay:[u] (These will reduce network lag.)
Right Click your displayed buff's (Under your experience bar.) and select 'Stop sending buff numbers'.

Masterminds with lag should also do the same to their pet buff's.

You can still get Buff value information via the right click 'Info' option.

[u]Rikti Raid, TF or High Difficulty Mission:[u] (This will reduce graphics lag.)
Go into the 'Graphics' 'Options' and reduce the 'Max particle effects' setting from 50000 to a lower value,
the minimum value is 100.

By doing this new particle effects gain priority so in the case of multiple players and powers getting used at the same time all of the effects will take less time to display and will free up older graphics cards to allow them to display movement without the lag usually caused by excessive particle effects.

I found by doing this I don't notice any changes under normal conditions and only see reduced particles where I would usually get swamped with effects and major gfx lag.

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Hopefully this information will help some of the players who suffer with lag, either generally or during Raids,
TF's or High Difficulty Missions.

(Let me know by 'Private Message' if you try these and find it helps.)

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thanks Coolio, those are all good suggestions to minimise lag under normal circumstances.

We did try this on my team - everyone turned down thier settings (i was running on the absolute minimum at once point) and it didn't make any difference at all i'm afraid. I have quite high-end machine too, the only gfx lag I tend to get is when i'm logging in a friends account at the same time, at which times I turn the one not being used down to the lowest settings.

I think this is definately at the game server end unfortunately.

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I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain

~Edna St. Vincent Millay

Coolio.. Nice tips.
However I believe what we where talking about was a sudden surge of lag. Powerlag, zonelag, chat lag etc on settings we have had for a long time.(And thus giving us no problem) Some of us got new computers with lots of power and we got hit with this kind of lag.
For me and another I know it started on Sunday Eve though

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In reply:
Power Lag: Known issue, especially the delayed recharge when zoning.
Zone Lag: Especially noticeable during Raids, seems to have increased recently.
Chat Lag: Possibly due to changes to allow for carrying chat messages over when zoning affecting non zoning players.

Also the Water and Bloom effects are known to cause lag even on high spec machines.

Kitty_Hellfire:
In your Graphics settings click advanced, then check the particle effects, even on low settings it can be very high.

Also when running the game twice, turning off send buff numbers on both, will reduce your network lag.

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I ran in safe mode and still experienced all of this

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I tried all of those Coolio with the exception of turning off bloom fx (someone told me about the water gfx thing) so i'll give that a try tonight if it's still as laggy (I pray it's not), but I kinda doubt that one thing will solve the problem, but stranger things have happened, I know, i saw another trick arrow defender once...in a wood, through a foggy haze, grazing on some left over xp.

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I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain

~Edna St. Vincent Millay

I just want it to be sorted :<

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just to confirm, is powerlag when you activate a power but it doesn't react to the activation for a few moments ?

example, my spines/regn scrapper, i hit ripper, but nothing happens, then the animation and some sort of damage, i immediately cue up another power but it takes 2 seconds or so after the other has finished before it realises i've used this next power and takes a further 2 seconds to animate ? (loose example there)...

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yup thats pretty much it, it's the server catching up with what you've done (i think). This also means you may have to press a power several times to get a response and that damage taken (as well as dealt) may be delayed. This is particularly dangerous as it can lead to nasty lag-death(tm). also any personal buffs or inspiration use will suffer the same delays.

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I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain

~Edna St. Vincent Millay

Just to bump this a bit...just logged on and the lag is still here, that would be day 3 for me and many others. It doesn't seem as bad as last night but it's still pretty nasty.

Netgraph is averaging 170-200 but theres very frequent red spikes (lost packets?) all over the place.

Would it be possible to get a red-name update on this issue? As seen from the other thread this doesn't seem to be isp or region specific.

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I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain

~Edna St. Vincent Millay

Rollback the patch

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Aye its bad - I did an ITF last night and wanted to just cry it was so bad i was literally hitting my keyboard (much to the amusement of my teammates who saw the jargon that came out).

I've also experienced crashing when relogging - 1st login fine, gfx settings even on bottom dont help. ALWAYS a relogin. I;ve worked out on average its every 1 in 3 or 4 logs I crash. Pain in the back side for using the BM! Grrrr.

The lag for me is still here and most noticeable on clicky powers like hasten and BU. Attacks aren't s bad i find but I am suffering from random rubberbanding at times too that can last 30 mins then suddenly stop. I;ve verified EVERYTHING my side as I'm an IT tech so something screwy serverside as everyone I know and team with has this across nearly all chars.

Please, please, please for the love of [insert deity of choice] sort this patch >.<

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Seems to have gone away again for me this evening.

Spent the evening on a team of 6-8, and power lag was noticeable by its absence.

And it's been driving me up the wall over the weekend.

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The above post may contain Cynicism, sarcasm and/or pessimism. If you object to the quantities contained, then tough.

Same thing here, was suspiciously lag-free this evening. I would have posted on it earlier but I was too busy squuuuueeeezing every last drop of fun out of the game as I could while it lasts

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I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain

~Edna St. Vincent Millay

I would say that it is significantly reduced, but not gone. I was too busy enjoying it not being laggy to post anything.

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