New Patrons
This conflicts majorly with the story-arcs of the Patrons. 2 of those you mentioned are Adjutants to the current patrons, and thus conceptually are incapable of being 'mentors'. 2 of them also have Strike Forces to their name.
So long as OPERATIONESTINY is in place, the current patrons you've offered simply don't fit. It's quite a catch 22, as i'm unable to fathom how any other patrons can be included, which could run parallell to the 'crucial' Destined one story arc (i.e, the absolute basic plot of all of CoV)
Someone once suggested Dr.Aeon as a 5th, which if you've done the 4th Patron arc...would be hard to do (I guess most of the missions bar the first and last could be done through Arbiter Daos)...
...still, it's a very fine line to tread, as there is a lot of conceptual stuff to work around, before throwing names about
he got a point dude if they brought new new enemies in arachnos they might do that but unkown so far. good i dea though
you said for Ice Mistral, Silver Mantis and Wretch to be patrons, so why did you miss out on Barracuda?
I think what most players want from any additiononal patrons is a non-arachnos option.
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I wont take someone as a patron who I have beaten up personally or help save from some lowlives plot. Those you mention are to low to be of significant value to one such as me.
That said, a non arachnos patron would be interesting. After all you start of with the choice to be an Arachnos flunky (Kalinda) or a mercenary (Burke). It would be fitting to have another to choose as Patron.
Some names: Midas (although a bit low), Nemesis (now that would be fun), the Marcone Boss.
Non spider patrons would work well with my Mastermind concept, who takes little stock in the "Destined one" role he's been squeezed into.
I figure any of the folks important enough to be invited to Viridian's Tea Party could qualify as Patrons worthy of a level 40-50 Villain.
That includes Dreck. Cybernetic limbs, throwing-sawblades, Excelsior and more!
Did you see my Meat Doctor PPP suggestion?
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A Malta PP for male characters and a KoA PP for female characters. Both include an outfit for those fun little knees ups that you can unlock to attend.
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you said for Ice Mistral, Silver Mantis and Wretch to be patrons, so why did you miss out on Barracuda?
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because Barracuda would be exactly the same patron as Mako
and None arachnos giving patron powers would be a bit iffy, if they did so arachnos would think they are trying to destroy Project destiny and would have them killed, the whole game is based on arachnos' little experiment.
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I don't think Nemesis, or the Center, or Countess Crey, or the Malta group would respond very well if Recluse tried to "have them killed". They might just decide they needed to do some bug hunting themeselves...
As for Dreck, Dr V, or Tub Ci, they wouldn't concern LR one way or another.
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Well, Dreck and Tub Ci concern him enough that he acknowledges their power. Heck, Freaks appear up to level 50 in the game. Recluse was intending to meet them (and the others who were invited) in person for that Conference of Evil thing.
He would use them, but they aren't in competition with him. Dreck especially is just a mercenry, with no ambition to world domination.
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Countess Crey or The Centre I would like to see. As so much of the game is a Nemesis Plot you'd be constantly foiling him so probably not him
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I keep seeing that on the loading info screens nowadays
Anyway, as long as LR has a Coalation with other big buisnesses, I'm sure theyde be on the list of possible patrons, but it would seem more likely for the AV's already in arachnos to have thier own patron first.
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Nemesis wrote all the tips on the info screen.
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I don't think Nemesis, or the Center, or Countess Crey, or the Malta group would respond very well if Recluse tried to "have them killed". They might just decide they needed to do some bug hunting themeselves...
As for Dreck, Dr V, or Tub Ci, they wouldn't concern LR one way or another.
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A non arachnos patron would also mean another story. It could be written in such a way that L.R. does not offend those so much that open warfare will be started.
You wouldn't need another story, you could have a non arachnos patron in addition to the arachnos patron.
However they now have branching coversations, so thier is no reason the destined one story couldn't have an alternative ending.
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I would personally suggest a new patron could be Arbiter Daos he is afterall closely tied to the existing and the destined thingy.
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I would personally suggest a new patron could be Arbiter Daos he is afterall closely tied to the existing and the destined thingy.
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That's interesting. I just made a comment tonight about him, that he was probably the most powerful man in Arachnos and that even Recluse would have cause to fear him, assuming that Daos ever had any desire to remove Recluse.
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Mage Hunter Zukhara, Vernon Von Grunz (sp?), Facemaker and oh, I dunno, someone else. Just some examples of 'alternative' factions or figures that represent a theme within the Rogue Isles.
My favourite would be the Mage Hunter. She could give perma access to Spirit Traps as well as other paranormal/magic-fighting powers and defences. Patrons that give an edge over certain types of mobs could be interesting.
Spirit Trap
Ghost-Slaying Axe
Holy Shotgun
Three exisiting temp powers that could be expanded upon.
Vernon obviously has a thing for the Devouring Earth. Also, the Vial of Bees was my Weapon of Choice on the road from 45 to 50.
Vial of Bees
Summon Razorvine
The Devouring Earth -Regen - Recovery power
All good, clean fun
On the flipside, and I have mentioned this before elsewhere, I think that Heroes should have the option (one-time only, to make things fair) of allying themselves with Heroic factions: Wyvern, Longbow, Legacy Chain, PPD - for example.
Let's face it, Villain Ancilliaries (Patrons) are the same powers for each AT but with a different flavour. There's no reason why a similar system couldn't be implemented for Heroes. Of course, Villains would need free-choice and respeccable Ancilliary Pools too
Oooh, oooh ooohh!
Origin Patrons.
Mage Hunter (Magic or Technology?)
Vernon (Science!)
etc.
It just occurred to me that these could be viable, especially with Power Proliferation and Doctor Brainstorm meddling about with things.
Okay, going to sleep under my rock now.
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Mage Hunter Zukhara, Vernon Von Grunz (sp?), Facemaker and oh, I dunno, someone else. Just some examples of 'alternative' factions or figures that represent a theme within the Rogue Isles.
My favourite would be the Mage Hunter. She could give perma access to Spirit Traps as well as other paranormal/magic-fighting powers and defences. Patrons that give an edge over certain types of mobs could be interesting.
Spirit Trap
Ghost-Slaying Axe
Holy Shotgun
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Yes, yes, a hundred thousand yes'
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Origin patrons
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Heroic Factions
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I have suggested both these before, Heroic Factions doesnt seem likely, and Origin patrons was possible but had its issues.
Look them up on the search for more detail to the result
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So far we have 4 patrons, but I know there are other AV's that rank highly in arachnos, and I'd like to see them become a contact for another set of Patons
Ice Mistral for example, she is a widow (as far as I know) who commands the powers of ice, this would make a usefull patron for slowing and holding, her pet would be along the lines of Ice Widows (new) her badge would be 'Ice Cold'
Silver mantis is another, her powers function much like spines (they probably are) but she seems more likely to teach a powerset that would not make her less unique, I suggest a version of Weapon Mastery for villains, the pet would possibly be something like Jounin in arachnos form. her badge would be 'looking sharp'
Wretch is a patron that would be usefull, the power of strength and energy, this is more suited for brutes, stalkers and thug masterminds and Bane Spider soldiers, the pet would be a Bane spider. his badge would be 'Powerhouse'
Arbiter sands would be prefered by many SoA's as they strive to be the best arachnos soldier ever, it also fits the players with a gun like weapon, the powers would be a villain version of Munitions mastery (no sleep grenade) and the pet would be a Wolf Spider Huntsman. his badge would be 'High Authority'
I'm not asking to berid of the current patrons, but have a much wider selection that has a variety of power types that best suit a players character most of these missions include ones already used in patrons with ones that each new AV have a vendetta against. I look forward to a reply and if you have ay alternatives feel free to offer them up
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