Dual Pistols is something we've got on the books!!
By
Arctic Man,
Posted on: 2008-07-02 07:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
You hit a strike right on the bottom!! 
Oh, erm, I mean...that's great 
Screw that, gief /MA Blasters!
Jumping way, way, way ahead of the gun, I'd love to have an MA/Dual Pistols Scrapper. It'd probably be awfully gimped as a straight Scrapper but I've got a character in mind that would suit it down to the ground.
Plus it would look awesome in play
It's been said that Scrappers are never ever getting Dual Pistols as a Primary or Secondary for obvious reasons.
As for Ancillary, we can only hope.
I'd prefer a Pistols / Scrappy blaster.
You can do a classic guns'n'fisticuffs Natural hero with AR/Energy at the moment, albeit with the daft pink pompoms, and it really does work quite well (Build Up > Boost Range > Full Auto > Flamethrower, followed by punching anything left standing to the floor).
It'd still be better with proper gunslinging moves though. I'd also prefer to have Utility Pistols like the Malta gunslingers (with varying damage types - like the Ice Hold and the explosive/flame bullets.)
EDIT: Digging WAYYYY into my posting back catalogue:
Okay, how about...
Snap Shot
Minor Lethal, fast recharge
Dual Shot
Moderate Smash/Lethal, Knockback
Empty Clips
High DoT
Arc Welder
Moderate Fire damage (Point Blank arc)
Air Taser
Short-ranged Air Taser similar to Tech inherent power, but does moderate Elec DoT and is powerful enough to Disorient foes.
Harpoon
Does Moderate Lethal damage and drags target next to you. (Get over here! Follow up with Bone Smasher or similar)
Laser Sights
Toggled "aim" power like Targeting Drone
Gyro Slug
Snipe: fires long-range mini-rocket which explodes on impact (single target High Smash/Lethal, AoE minor Smash)
Tranq Gas Round
AoE Sleep/Slow, -Regen, -Perception.
Flechette Storm
Explosive rounds break up on launch to cover a wide area in front of pistol user.
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
I read that as saying that while Dual Pistols might go in at some point, it's going to be quite a while. My guess is we're going to see more powerset proliferation first, to fill the gaps for the ranged ATs: Dark Blast and Radiation Blast for Blasters, Assault Rifle and Fire Blast for Defenders and Archery and Psychic Blast for Corruptors.
*Then* we might see new ranged sets, like Dual Pistols.
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I'd love to have an MA/Dual Pistols Scrapper.
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So what you want is a Dual Pistol/MA Blaster with some more hitpoints? It boggles the mind.
1) We already knew this.
2) We already know it will be for blasters, corruptors and defenders, definately not scrappers.
3) The devs have already decided what the powers will be, so making suggestions is a bit redundant at this stage. The smart money is on combos.
I really should do something about this signature.
I filed my suggestion originally in mid-2006, so I demand that they take priority over whatever mere "developers" may have filed on their own change requests 
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
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Martial Arts as a Blaster Secondary has never been discussed or designed
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Some people have mentioned this since the launch of an Archery set for blasters.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Martial Arts as a Blaster Secondary has never been discussed or designed
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Omg whoever said that is so out of touch. Some people have mentioned this since the launch of an Archery set for blasters.
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Castle and just because people have mentioned it does not mean they have discussed it.
Someone mentioned to me a few days ago about a very offending(*snicker*) commercial... I did not sit down and discuss about it with anyone.
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Stealth edit eh? 
No I read it, the way you read it afterwards and changed it during your reply, ie I told myself what you just said in your reply and changed what I put.
Edit: Thats without knowledge of your reply.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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I'd love to have an MA/Dual Pistols Scrapper.
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So what you want is a Dual Pistol/MA Blaster with some more hitpoints? It boggles the mind.
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Not really, I want a character who's a strong martial artist with guns as a back up, not the other way round. But if they gave us DP/MA Blasters and no Scrapper option I'd take it. I play all my Blasters like Scrappers anyway
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Martial Arts as a Blaster Secondary has never been discussed or designed
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Omg whoever said that is so out of touch. Some people have mentioned this since the launch of an Archery set for blasters.
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Castle and just because people have mentioned it does not mean they have discussed it.
Stealth edit eh?
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and in the same breath just because it hasnt been discused on the eu forums dosnt mean it hasnt been discussed coz i can remeber atleast 2 of them on the us forums one ended about 100 pages long bouncing back and forth about why it would be over powered and why it wouldnt
There isnt a problem on earth that cant be solved with the proper aplication of hi explosive's
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I'm sure Castle meant internally, as in they know about the suggestion from the forums but they've never actively discussed or worked on designs.
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I'm sure Castle meant internally, as in they know about the suggestion from the forums but they've never actively discussed or worked on designs.
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That's how I read it.
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1) We already knew this.
2) We already know it will be for blasters, corruptors and defenders, definately not scrappers.
3) The devs have already decided what the powers will be, so making suggestions is a bit redundant at this stage. The smart money is on combos.
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I certainly agree with 1) & 2), but not sure on 3) - though it's a fair bet the 3 pistol powers from MM Thugs/ would appear somewhere. I wouldn't be shocked if Dual Pistols was in the design stages, though - Castle has pretty much confirmed we're getting a "blast" set next after Shields, anyway - it makes sense it would be Dual Pistols with so many players asking for it.
I think a Pistol ancillary for scrappers would be a great idea, though. There's even a precedent in the lore - Spark Blade, one of the two W.I.S.D.O.M. signature heroes not in the game yet, is a Kat/SR scrapper who uses pistols too.
last time they did dual swords and MA, but now they do dual pistols and.....?
i would at least expect something more then only one AT, tough.....more my opinion after the last one.
Read the post.
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Dual Pistols is something we've got on the books as something to do at some point in the future, Martial Arts as a Blaster Secondary has never been discussed or designed.
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Strongly implies that Duel Pistols has been discussed and designed.
It should be, they have been talking about it for long enough, and Castle has hinted it will be the next "all new" set after shields.
As far as I know there is no offical source for Spark Blade's AT and powersets. The paragonwiki entry appears to be speculative.
Based on the vid we saw I would have put him as an Electric Blast/Katana blaster myself.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Based on the vid we saw I would have put him as an Electric Blast/Katana blaster myself.
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Although didn't he also have a gun in the vid, or is my memory deceiving me?
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Read the post.
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I did - no need to patronise. Yes, they could have done preliminary design work - they may not have - the wording "something we've got on the books as something to do at some point in the future" is ambiguous enough (probably as intended) to leave any option between it being very likely as a near future powerset but no design work done, to some minor feasibility design work done, all the way up to them having planned out 9 powers and just done no programming yet.
As for Spark Blade, I guess ParagonWiki could be speculative, but they rarely list speculation (not without saying so), hence why Aurora Borealis has no powersets/archetype listed (heck, I'm not even sure she's a defender, as likely as it is). Maybe they got the powerset info on Rose Star and Spark Blade from the "City of Hero" website? (anyone here have that cached that can read Korean? )
And yes MaX, your memory isn't deceiving you - Spark Blade does have a pistol in the video - it looks like the flintlock pistol that Thug/ MMs have as a weapon customisation option, and he even uses it on a CoT spectral.
Sorudo - Willpower was added with Dual Blades, not MA - MA has been in the game since the beginning.
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Based on the vid we saw I would have put him as an Electric Blast/Katana blaster myself.
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Although didn't he also have a gun in the vid, or is my memory deceiving me?
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What vid is everybody talking about? 
I've clearly missed somthing here 
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but they rarely list speculation
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They are dependent on people editing to remove speculation. Lots of speculation appears, but is usually noticed and removed. I doubt that page gets looked at very much.
I really should do something about this signature.
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What vid is everybody talking about
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It was the Korean launch vid, which was about 3 years ago.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Apparently, yes.
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Sorry...snippy response, when none was called for. This combination has been a bit of a cause celebre recently, and I've gotten a LOT of PMs about it. Short form answer is, "Not anytime soon." Longer answer is, While Dual Pistols is something we've got on the books as something to do at some point in the future, Martial Arts as a Blaster Secondary has never been discussed or designed. Is it possible? Sure. There are a whole lot of other powersets in front of it in the queue, however.
[/ QUOTE ] Well i hope this make alot of people happy to hear that dual pistols is somewhere on a flip chart on future things to do Future power planing