Ability to go back to character selection screen
By
CactusBrawler,
Posted on: 2008-06-23 24:11 in Suggestions and Ideas
Been discussed many times. The official reason is that it's a security procedure; it means that if you leave your computer to get a drink or whatever, your bratty little brother (or whoever) can't just go to the selection screen and delete half your characters. (Unless you let them know your password of course, and then it's your fault for trusting the little brat 
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However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
Surely the 10 seconds it takes to type password > select Server > select toon, isnt really that much bother is it?
I do understand where you are coming from as in WoW there is instant log to Toon screen when in a safe area, but still!
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Surely the 10 seconds it takes to type password > select Server > select toon, isnt really that much bother is it?
I do understand where you are coming from as in WoW there is instant log to Toon screen when in a safe area, but still!
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Well not until the game crashes when you select server again... like it does every so often.
I believe it's the way it is for security reasons.
1) You go AFK
2) you are auto logged out
3) some joker comes along and deletes all your characters.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Surely the 10 seconds it takes to type password > select Server > select toon, isnt really that much bother is it?
I do understand where you are coming from as in WoW there is instant log to Toon screen when in a safe area, but still!
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Well not until the game crashes when you select server again... like it does every so often.
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So add an extra minute for varification if needed .. hardly a big deal!
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I believe it's the way it is for security reasons.
1) You go AFK
2) you are auto logged out
3) some joker comes along and deletes all your characters.
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It could still do that just add a log to server button as well.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
I mentioned this suggestion myself some months ago and yep, got the same responses:
'oh you can't have an Exit to Character Selection Screen because if you do then somebody can delete your toons.'
Sorry, didn't buy that argument then, don't buy it now. If there are three options on exit (to Desktop, to Login and to Character Selection Screen) then you can choose the option that suits you. If you want to exit the game then Exit to Desktop. If you need to leave your computer and there might be a chance that somebody will mess about with the account then Exit to Login. If, however, you want to select another character then why not have an Exit to Character Selection Screen? Let's face it, this game requires a monthly subscription, in other words your game account is an online financial system. Would you be stupid enough to leave your online bank account logged in while you left the computer and where other people have access to your computer. NO. Would you type in your password to your online bank account in such a way that would allow the people around you to see it if you thought you couldn't trust them with that information. NO. So why do you think that the moment the option to Exit to Character Selection Screen becomes available people are immediately going to start leaving the game at the Character Selection Screen and wander off so that others can start editing the details of their account? And if somebody is stupid enough to do that, well Boohoo, that person has just learnt a very valuable lesson about very basic computer security.
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Surely the 10 seconds it takes to type password > select Server > select toon, isnt really that much bother is it?
I do understand where you are coming from as in WoW there is instant log to Toon screen when in a safe area, but still!
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Well not until the game crashes when you select server again... like it does every so often.
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So add an extra minute for varification if needed .. hardly a big deal!
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Only takes a minute if you have a decent machine perhaps, it takes me somewhat longer. To the point that if I know I'm going to log back in I quit to desktop and restart the client.
What I really want is a /quittologin command... and I know that isn't that hard to add. 
look in GW, they where worried about account protection too and didn't do a character screen button, now look at it.
Just wondering now. How long can you be in login mode to select your toon? If I am that screen and go afk for a few mintues. Nothing would protect my toons from being deleted.
So unless you require a password to delete a toon this would not make such a great security benefit anyway.
So to me adding another button to go straight to the server selection is not a real security problem.
Of course when you autolog you should log out as normal. It also saves much valuable server time so that is basic common sense.
And if you are concerned about the security, change the deleting procedure.
I think its the same afk time as if you were in the game itself .. not exactly sure what that is tho tbh .. 10mins maybe? maybe more?
For some reason people want superfast login/out speeds and i just really dont see the need, i understand what Lost is saying that if you crash it adds some time to being back in-game .. but the amount of times this happens is very few! So in almost all cases, the logout/in time is about 1 minute! So unless someone has a real reason as to why they want this then it is pointless!
Why in the first place would you be playing the game around ppl you don't trust? It seems odd that ppl are saying that "your account wont be secure" do those same ppl invite strangers and ppl that cant be trusted near a comp into their house when thay have private or secure things on screen?
I for 1 have no such problems with any of my friends or family if i leave my comp to go afk, no-one touches it not even my son and hes only 5.
A "quit to character selection screen" is a very good idea and yes ok it takes less than a minute to get to the same screen via "quit to login" but ho hum the problem u may come across tho is What server? maybe a quit to server selection would be better OR depending on what server you are on depends what character selection screen you quit too
ie union to union defiant to defiant etc.
My main point is if you think that there maybe a problem with security at your end then log to desktop or login and dont use the quit to char selection or server till you are only around ppl u trust its that simple.
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Why in the first place would you be playing the game around ppl you don't trust? It seems odd that ppl are saying that "your account wont be secure" do those same ppl invite strangers and ppl that cant be trusted near a comp into their house when thay have private or secure things on screen?
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1) Internet cafes
2) Annoying younger siblings
3) Shared university accommodation
4) Net parties
5) Annoyed neglected spouse
6) Confusing test and live servers
Not everyone has as secure a computing environment as you...
I still say it's not a security risk to have the option to log to character select. If we're worried about afk-ing and deleting characters, then keep the auto-logout as it is now. Really anyone who doesn't log out completely in an insecure area is lacking basic security sense.
- Security-wise, retyping your password is no less secure than leaving your game running while afking. It's actually less secure as I see it. Gives more occasions for someone else to spy on you. And the password can be used outside the game (account management, this forum)...
- Going afk leaving your game running should not exactly be an habit for those who play in "unsecure" environment...
- Auto-logout would be left as a "full" logout...
I'd agree with the proposal.
Don't know if its been posted before, but instead of just logging back to Desktop or Log-in screen, would be so much nicer to have an option to return to the Character Selection Screen for your current server, saves all that messing about putting in your log in details again