This thread is weird.
Trying to get something PvP going is always a great idea and always welcomed by all and respected nps.
But there's some strange conditions to this one that aren't gonna work and tbh weren't even part of any "old skool" PvP either and regardless of that are going to make things borked so much either people won't join in, or will try and get some really wrong ideas and perma give up.
Got to be said that it really does say something crystal clear about the PvP mechanics in CoX that it takes so effing long every time to simply get a battle going.
It's not the players fault but it's just crazy that it takes weeks and months to settle on what's going to work in any event. I think that's why so many just give up tbh. Kudos for trying and sticking with it tho 
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Inspirations have always been used in PvP. Since it's conception, I know, I was there. You cannot just go "hurr old school before insps" because quite frankly that's not true.
People have always used the best Enhancements to make the best Builds available to them, before HO's where available in great number it was +3 SO's, then it was HO's and now it's IO's. It's the natural evolution of the game - it doesn't make things any more or any less skill based, it just gives people another avenue to enhance the character once they've worked out what powers to use when. It does take skill to make a really, really good build.
While I'd like to have some casual PvP I don't want to go back to the dark ages of slotting just to do it, all of my toons are IO'd up because I like what IO's can do and how they can enhance a build compared to some lacklustre SO slotting where everyone goes 3xdam/2xacc/1xend (or range). I mean, come on, that's not really diverse or exciting.
Seriously, trying to get more PvP = good, but putting restrictions on things like no Tier9 powers does mean that people'll just turn up on a Regen Scrapper or something.
(Also no insps basically means a Controller/Dominator wins in the long run).
yea weve moved on from that now thanks guys. I appreciate your input, and all that but i respectfully request you keep those thoughts private. all that is required now is a, "yes great ill be there, sounds like a bit of fun" or a "no i think ill have to sit this one out" as weve covered the whole, old skool insps aregument to death.
I didn't realise people weren't allowed to comment on a public discussion board.
I won't be there - I don't want to purposefully scale down my toons effectiveness for a night of "classic" PvP.
OK...'Old School pvp'
1) Always allowed the use of insps.
2) Always allowed the use of any powers available.
I also applaud you for trying to get some pvp going, however you will always upset peeps saying they are not 'old school' if they disobey rules 1) and 2) above.
Rename it: Scrapper or EM fest!
But hey, im soo 'new school', what would i know.
This is an interesting idea that i think will help highlight the fact that nostalgia is a one way street.
PvP may be dominated by IO'd super builds now, but back then it was dominated by min/max'ed so builds,
But ill try and make it along to watch, be interesting to see what can take down a regen with the -regen adjustment.
OH, and just you dare call me a new wave pvper and ill throw an arena terminal at you, im so old school ive still got hasten 6 slotted, and 2 of them are def so's.
so does everyone just skim read threads now, or is it jsut people only read what they want to read and assume its negative immediately. im trying to stop this thread falling back into the hole it almost fell into at the start by people harping on bout how they used to do this and used to do that and how they must be right because they were there and yada yada yada. Time played is not synonymous ith play skill. If you take offense to what i have to say, then ignore me, on the forums and in game. I'd rather not have to speak to you. Its on test server so you arent gonna be borking a live toon, but if thats too much trouble then dont turn up. This is about helping to ger newer people into pvp and maybe some older ones too. If you dont want to help improve the PvP that you claim to be so great at, thats your problem, not mine.
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..so does everyone just skim read threads now, or is it jsut people only read what they want to read?..
..by people harping on...
..yada yada yada..
..I'd rather not have to speak to you..
..but if thats too much trouble then dont turn up..
..If you dont want to help improve the PvP that you claim to be so great at, thats your problem, not mine..
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And after these words of encouragement, this comes:
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This is about helping to get newer people into pvp and maybe some older ones too.
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Critical encouragement ftw hehe!
Look mate, I wasn't having a go. As someone whom has also organised pvp competitions & nights etc, along with Cherry and KS, we are trying to help inform you on ways to encourage as many attendees as possible.
I don't think anyone has claimed to be so great at pvp.. but then I'm one of those pesky skim readers so may have missed something 
There seems to be 2 main problems people are seeing with this:
1) You seem to think that no tier 9s and no insps will make things easier for newbs. I personally don't think it will.. I think it will on the whole make things more difficult, and others seem to agree, though please correct me if I'm wrong.
2) Your interpretation of what "old skool" pvp is.. No insps and no tier 9s is no more old school than it is new school. The only thing old school about this idea is SOs, but, as cherry pointed out, for that to work I want to 6 slot damage again and be able to 2 shot defenders from range!
The whole thing reminds me of how pvp in warburg still goes sometimes, where you need to be a non-squishy to survive longer than 15 seconds because you will be jumped by 5 over-zealous scrappers on first site. I kinda disagree with most peoples idea that FFA no inps will be domintaed by trollers.. stacking 4 holds on a tank (which I presume a vast majority would take to this kind of event) without getting ganked is quite the challenge unless you are secretly working with another toward a common goal.
Don't get me wrong, all of that's meant to be constructive. It's also meant to make sense but neither may be true.
Edit: I think you may have done better just advertising this as a random pvp night and attaching no particular goal or theme to it bar the rules first mentioned. People wouldn't have been able to nit-pick that way besides saying they're not interested in that particular form of pvp.
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Cherry is in the new wave of pvpers 
*Waits for his shiny new terminal*
I don't think it will work after it gets ripped up, hurtled and then lands on you.
Personally i feel that like a lot of the others have said is that you are really limiting the number of people that you are hoping would be interested in this event simply becasue of the fact that you wont let people use certain tier9s and insps till you changed that. Its just that there is already a small percentage of people who even pvp in this game and an even smaller amount who even would do arena pvp and putting further limitations causes even less to be interested.
Also IMO i don't think having a ffa is a good idea at all in trying to get more people into pvp simply due to the fact that it will turn into either a gank the squishy fest or you'll get nothing but tanks,scraps,brutes and stalkers which leaves others out unless they feel like getting repeatedly ganked (or ganked on site if its not LMS FFA)
Apart from these issues i applaud your effort in trying to get more people interested in pvp
Also if i may ask why limit tier9s its not like there i win buttons anymore or even over powered imo 
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You have to bear in mind that People have forgotten just how hard it was for example to hit through elude before IO's with all the +acc +tohit bonuses came out. I wasnt impossible and a good build could still manage it, but it was a lot harder.
Think of this as my trying to encourage PvP by making it as easy as possible for people new to PvP to feel like they actually stand a chance. They may not be able to take down more experienced players very easily, but its much better for them to actually see some orange numbers when they hit something rather then just Eluded or Unaffected every time.
Also, i thank Gattling for an objective point of view. I appreciate that perhaps my initial post may have sounded like a dig at modern PvP.
I feel the need to emphasize here that although i understand competitive spirit is a positive thing, this really isnt about onf of the more experienced players winning or losing. Its about getting new people involved and giving them a chance to have fun and not be made to feel useless. The only way we can get more competitive PvP in the live servers is by nurturing the less experienced ones in a friendly and slightly fairer atmosphere.
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thundorn you are dumb, how are you going to stop people from using insps or coming with an IO'd build?
pvp is more balanced than it ever was, imo.
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If it was just pre invention style builds people would have Hami-Os. I wouldn't mind having SO matches but it would have to be pentad team matches on test. Insp allowed. I'm betting the good players would win. Having a FFA favours tanks and scrappers. No insp favours controllers. Doesn't matter if they are good players or not. As there is no skill involved.
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Meh just bring a sonic empath comobo and u dont need inspies.
I dont have comobos!
Btw. Dan, I've so got the hots for you right now.
Ok since enough people have asked, assuming everyone is happy for it, insps will be allowed, Im still a little hesitant to to give tier 9's the green light though.
So if everyones happy, ill say, SO toons, and insps but no god power. Cant really say much fairer then that. I understand that some people prefer to team, but in the interests of fairness i'd rather keep it FFA to start with to give everyone a shot. Maybe if there are enough people left afterwards and if enough people enjoy it, we could have pentad teams with the same toons to save people having to mess about.