Does anyone know what the best hard control (lockdown) primary to take?
Also need a secondary which is team friendly, and possibly with some debuff element 
Anything /TA or /sonic would not be FotM; otherwise /storm is quite underused (except with ice/ and to a lesser extent with fire/ and ill/). Some good combos I can think of are ill/TA, fire/sonic, grav/storm, earth/storm, mind/TA, ice/sonic.
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Does anyone know what the best hard control (lockdown) primary to take?
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earth followed by ice and mind.
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Also need a secondary which is team friendly, and possibly with some debuff element
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earth/TA ftw!!!111!!!
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
I rolled an earth/storm and it is fun toon to play on teams. Not sure how different is, I went for it because I haven't seen many around.
Earth/rad is also a blast of fun on teams, quite end high though.
You dont have to have different sets to be a different controller. I'm having fun with a stealth based build (With phase!) On my fire/kin controller on test. Quite fun, I've also wanted to try a mind/ controller with perma-fly and concealment pool, seems more ghosty than illusion.
Earth/Storm sounds like a lot of fun (Grav/Storm is pretty common).
Grav/TA is good fun too but not tonnes of hard control like you want.
Does anyone know what the best hard control (lockdown) primary to take?
EARTH Thats what you search, the true Master
Also need a secondary which is team friendly, and possibly with some debuff element
Rad, Heal, Buffs and lota Debuffs.
So Earth rad is the Troller of your Choice.
Personally i would prefer mind as Earth's animations are. really annoying. I thought Mind has the most controlling tools than Earth. Between all the toons i made even in my bored state, Psy-knight is the only toon i enjoy to play (even when ex'ed). He's a Mind/Rad controller. IMO Radiation is the complete team friendly set with End recovery, heal, rez and debuffs it has every team want. Only down side is Rad has no mez protection. But this is where your primary enter the scene. Confuse mezzing mob and let him lock your friends for you.
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Personally i would prefer mind as Earth's animations are. really annoying. I thought Mind has the most controlling tools than Earth.
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Earth's animation can be a bit overpowering in some maps, but you quickly get used to it and in some cases this can be a advantage since it's quite clear when a mob is mezzed. You can argue that Earth and Ice are the most 'control-oriented' primaries since all their powers (except pets) are about control (even if some do slight damage) while Mind has Levitate which is really an attack with some knockup and 3 powers are just AoE versions of single-target ones (only 2 for Earth and Ice). So if you look at what each has to offer:
Earth: holds (including the best AoE one from controller primaries), immobs, knockdown, -def, -tht, -fly, -jump, -speed, sleep, stun.
Ice: holds, immobs, -speed, -rechg, confuse, knockdown, sleep, -stealth.
Mind: holds, confuse, sleep, knockup, repel, fear.
Rad is of course a great secondary, which is why it's probably the most common along with /kin. So it just depends how 'different' you want to be 
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CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
I've an Earth/Kin which works extremely well - Siphon Speed lets me cycle the controlly stuff in the primary very fast, you never want for an AOE control power. It knocks the socks off my Ice/Rad for team controlling in a lot of situations (basically because I've more viable alternatives to knock down powers if I end up teamed with someone who feels the urge to throw everything all over the place).
I teamed with an Earth/Storm a fair bit too, I have to say, I think I liked that better. Loads and loads of cool powers, lots of flashy stuff (noone is going to miss you that's for sure!) although very bloody noisy. Lightning Flash stacks nicely with Stompy Foot too (sorry, real power names escape me, I've been referring to them by stupid names for too long, the AOE stun from each set). Stone Cages with Freezing Rain or Quick Sand, Hurricane's just great.
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I've an Earth/Kin which works extremely well - Siphon Speed lets me cycle the controlly stuff in the primary very fast, you never want for an AOE control power. It knocks the socks off my Ice/Rad for team controlling in a lot of situations (basically because I've more viable alternatives to knock down powers if I end up teamed with someone who feels the urge to throw everything all over the place).
I teamed with an Earth/Storm a fair bit too, I have to say, I think I liked that better. Loads and loads of cool powers, lots of flashy stuff (noone is going to miss you that's for sure!) although very bloody noisy. Lightning Flash stacks nicely with Stompy Foot too (sorry, real power names escape me, I've been referring to them by stupid names for too long, the AOE stun from each set). Stone Cages with Freezing Rain or Quick Sand, Hurricane's just great.
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Staligmites & Thunderclap?
Tornado, Lightning Storm & Stone Cages looks like a fun combo too. With maybe Gasses theres too for the laugh.
Or Freezing Rain, Earthquake, Snow Storm and Quicksand. Mmmmm.
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I've an Earth/Kin which works extremely well - Siphon Speed lets me cycle the controlly stuff in the primary very fast, you never want for an AOE control power. It knocks the socks off my Ice/Rad for team controlling in a lot of situations (basically because I've more viable alternatives to knock down powers if I end up teamed with someone who feels the urge to throw everything all over the place).
I teamed with an Earth/Storm a fair bit too, I have to say, I think I liked that better. Loads and loads of cool powers, lots of flashy stuff (noone is going to miss you that's for sure!) although very bloody noisy. Lightning Flash stacks nicely with Stompy Foot too (sorry, real power names escape me, I've been referring to them by stupid names for too long, the AOE stun from each set). Stone Cages with Freezing Rain or Quick Sand, Hurricane's just great.
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Staligmites & Thunderclap?
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Those are the ones she means
The Earth and Storm sets have pretty good synergy. You get masses of control, some very nice debuffs and, at later levels, reasonable damage. Definitely a fun combo.
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I've an Earth/Kin which works extremely well - Siphon Speed lets me cycle the controlly stuff in the primary very fast, you never want for an AOE control power. It knocks the socks off my Ice/Rad for team controlling in a lot of situations (basically because I've more viable alternatives to knock down powers if I end up teamed with someone who feels the urge to throw everything all over the place).
I teamed with an Earth/Storm a fair bit too, I have to say, I think I liked that better. Loads and loads of cool powers, lots of flashy stuff (noone is going to miss you that's for sure!) although very bloody noisy. Lightning Flash stacks nicely with Stompy Foot too (sorry, real power names escape me, I've been referring to them by stupid names for too long, the AOE stun from each set). Stone Cages with Freezing Rain or Quick Sand, Hurricane's just great.
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Staligmites & Thunderclap?
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Those are the ones she means
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Humph. You're the one who told me it was called Stompy Foot in the first place!
Earth/Storm is a controlpowerhouse and for some reason not many play it.
Must admit this is one combo I've always wanted to play but actually never gotten round to...maybe thats why most people havent played it
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Grav something... Singularity had got to be the best Controller pet (meaning, it has the most control) which makes up for Gravs own short-comings in the control department.
Immmobilize (ST and AoE), hold (ST and AoE), knockback (ST), knockup (ST), teleport (AoE), stun (AoE), intangibility (AoE) and slow (ST and AoE)
4 AoE powers, 1 of which is very situational, 2 of which are standard and 1 of which is great / horrid depending on who you ask (Wormhole).
4 ST powers, 2 are standard, 1 is the same as levitate (but apparently less damage) and of course the 2-sided coin that is Propel - great damage, long activation.
Your immobs and holds will cause slow which is nice and sllows for more procs from IOs. Your per will spam ST hold, immob and knockup, 2 of which also slow.
I have a Grav/Kin, Grav/FF and Grav/Rad, as well as a Grav/Energy Dom. I really do love this set.
I hear Grav/Storm is really fun to play and you can't go wrong with Sonic Resonance these days either.
I suppose if you really want something different, go for:
Earth/Sonic
Earth/TA
Earth/Storm
Ice/Sonic
Ice/TA
Ice/Storm
I don't recall ever seeing those on my travels. Still, my vote goes to Grav/something 
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Hi,
Im looking for a different controller.
I am unsure but I might go Illusion/ earth/ or something else, quite possibly illusion/force field.
What do you guys think? I dont want to pick something thats FoTM (such as fire/rad).
Does anyone know what the best hard control (lockdown) primary to take?
Also need a secondary which is team friendly, and possibly with some debuff element
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A different troller with a good hard control primary and a team friendly secondary eh? Gosh so many nice combos's possible...
Best primary for this is earth and ice as second. Leave illusion and fire as far as this goes, although they have other very nice qualities.
For a secondary kin and rad are pretty much Fotm: /TA and sonic are quite rare, but make up for some really nice sets
Personally i think /TA is a really fine and interesting set to play. Storm is also damn good and unjustified underused imo.
Combining all this there arise a few nice combo's you could try:
-Earth/Storm.
-Ice/TA
-Earth/TA
-Mind/TA
-Earth/Sonic
-Ice/Storm (but not so original)
The list could go on, but these are just few 'different' and good synergising combo's.
I've played both Earth/TA and Earth/storm (and many more in relishing my troller fetish 
) myself and they offered an incredible good time.
Hope you pick a combo that will fit you. Have fun!
Earth/TA I cant recommend it enough!
2 st holds, 2 aoe holds, lots of slows, debuffs, damage in the comedy form of Oil Slick... the list goes on.
Its a bit of a struggle early on, but well worth the effort. My Earth/TA also has Ice mastery: aoe hold + oil slick on fire + Ice storm = pain.
ice/ta (thinking of making one myself tomoro), you wont be the most damaging, and wont have the most "hard control" . . . . but you'll annoy the hell outta everyone fighting you all the slows, holds, knockdowns etc etc will have the player cursing his pc screen. Of course imo you would be better off teaming a lot with this toon since solo you would take much much longer.
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Ice/TA? I know one, Ms Marvellous and she's very talented with her combination. I thought about making one so long but always gave up the idea because i know i can't reach her superiority. So i settled down with my main.
Hi,
Im looking for a different controller.
I am unsure but I might go Illusion/ earth/ or something else, quite possibly illusion/force field.
What do you guys think? I dont want to pick something thats FoTM (such as fire/rad).