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[Don't ever go up against a triform PB; seriously. You think aid self is annoying? How about shields, 3 heals, a self rez, built in stamina in Nova form; tank form, rather high knockdowm AND fairly good damage?
And to top it all, if things get hairy we also have Light Form (Unstoppable to you tankers). 
Not that I'm saying they're PvP gods, they're not. But played right they can be a REALLY irritating opponent. 
Oh, and a high level WS is even WORSE! 
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... They're really not all that awesome.
Edit: They're also not really that awesome even if the person playing them is good. I've yet to see that though.
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Seconding this.
After all, PBs absolutely can't be beaten in PvP, can they? 
What was the final score when we fought in the arena? 2-0? With me on an AR/Fire and you constantly flying out of range? "Irritating opponent" is right - my mouse clicking finger twinged slightly towards the end there.
Memories....doo dee doo doo dee doo doo...
Ice burn.
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Tanks aren't designed to kill things, they're designed to take the aggro so that others can kill things, simple solution to your problem? Get taunt and team with a blaster.
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El O El. You not seen many PvP tankers in Zones have you ? *whistles the Ice/NRG,Fire/NRG song*
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My character thematically loves Aid self cause its a Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa
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Quotin' for effect.
The only issue I have with Aid Self is that it's pretty much uninteruptable now with the right slotting.
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3 Interrupt SO's.
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Quotin' for effect.
The only issue I have with Aid Self is that it's pretty much uninteruptable now with the right slotting.
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3 Interrupt SO's.
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IO's.
All you've gotta do is stab the button a bit and the heal'll fire off. Hell, you pretty much don't even need to stand still after the animation starts now.
This I need to test.... Knew 3 SOs werent enough but IOs, hmm.
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Seconding this.
After all, PBs absolutely can't be beaten in PvP, can they? What was the final score when we fought in the arena? 2-0? With me on an AR/Fire and you constantly flying out of range? "Irritating opponent" is right - my mouse clicking finger twinged slightly towards the end there.
Memories....doo dee doo doo dee doo doo...
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Oh shush you PFF popping child of a turnip!
I let you win, waiting for you to come out of your little bubble was BOOORIIING!
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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No it's not overpowered, my blaster can easily do more damage in the activation time of aid self than aid self actually heals.
Tanks aren't designed to kill things, they're designed to take the aggro so that others can kill things, simple solution to your problem? Get taunt and team with a blaster.
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i can fight ur blaster with my tank if u like, might change ur opinion
LionsBane:
The problem is not that aid self is overpowerd (I dont believe it is) its that you are trying to mix concept with PvP, this is a mistake 99.9% of the time.
Ever tried PvPing a M.A.N build /e Shudders
EDIT: me spelin aint so gud.
Lionsbane. . . i hope for your sake this motion does not catch on and that the devs just let this float by on a little rubber dingy. . . or i shall have to set Sally on you. . .
thing is aid self takes a sec or 2 to activate without interuption. and as said its takes up 2 powers for it so i say its fine at it is if ur always attacking its harder for the person to use it and end heavy it can be.and remember there r those who have no heals like. energy aura n lighting armor . and without tht heal there screwd for pvp n pve.
I'm just giving my dominator the IO treatment to her Aid Self - 3x Interrupt IO, Numina's End/Rech/Heal, Numina's Rech/Heal and Doctored Wounds Rech/Heal seems to be a very working combination.
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The problem is not that aid self is overpowerd (I dont believe it is) its that you are trying to mix concept with PvP, this is a mistake 99.9% of the time.
Ever tried PvPing a M.A.N build /e Shudders
EDIT: me spelin aint so gud.
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I think you`re partly right.
Don't get into a flap. It's only my opinion and I'm thick
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2 mission arc. Bring friends cause Lord Anarchy means business...
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Seconding this.
After all, PBs absolutely can't be beaten in PvP, can they? What was the final score when we fought in the arena? 2-0? With me on an AR/Fire and you constantly flying out of range? "Irritating opponent" is right - my mouse clicking finger twinged slightly towards the end there.
Memories....doo dee doo doo dee doo doo...
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Oh shush you PFF popping child of a turnip!
I let you win, waiting for you to come out of your little bubble was BOOORIIING!
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How about you fight me to prove it?
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Lionsbane. . . i hope for your sake this motion does not catch on and that the devs just let this float by on a little rubber dingy. . . or i shall have to set Sally on you. . .
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If the devs acted on this one it would be one of lifes great ironies.
During the nerfs of i4-15 I was a very loud defender of powersets and fought against the global nerfs and Ed.
Mind you there were something like 25,000 posts about that, almost all against it. The devs totally ignored them, to the point of not even posting on the usa boards for days, weeks maybe. So for the devs to act on this... lol.
Having said that I inadvertantly broke one of my cardinal rule with this thread. Never suggest a nerf.
Cause you`re right. This group have proven themselves to be trigger happy in the extreme in the past and you never know what wheels threads like this set in motion....
Don't get into a flap. It's only my opinion and I'm thick
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2 mission arc. Bring friends cause Lord Anarchy means business...
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The only issue I have with Aid Self is that it's pretty much uninteruptable now with the right slotting.
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3 Interrupt SO's.
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IO's.
All you've gotta do is stab the button a bit and the heal'll fire off. Hell, you pretty much don't even need to stand still after the animation starts now.
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IOs make a fractional difference over SOs with setting 3 of the same type due to reaching the cap so easy.
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Seconding this.
After all, PBs absolutely can't be beaten in PvP, can they? What was the final score when we fought in the arena? 2-0? With me on an AR/Fire and you constantly flying out of range? "Irritating opponent" is right - my mouse clicking finger twinged slightly towards the end there.
Memories....doo dee doo doo dee doo doo...
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Oh shush you PFF popping child of a turnip!
I let you win, waiting for you to come out of your little bubble was BOOORIIING!
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How about you fight me to prove it?
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that i wud love to watch
lol first-aid
/hug spines
anyway umm yeah in my oppinion its quite balanced in comparison to what other power pools provide for similar investment.
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If you`re a healer and you can endlessly heal yourself...well the trade off there is that you`re unlikely to hit hard enough to rteally put me out.
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Don't ever go up against a triform PB; seriously. You think aid self is annoying? How about shields, 3 heals, a self rez, built in stamina in Nova form; tank form, rather high knockdowm AND fairly good damage?
And to top it all, if things get hairy we also have Light Form (Unstoppable to you tankers).
Not that I'm saying they're PvP gods, they're not. But played right they can be a REALLY irritating opponent.
Oh, and a high level WS is even WORSE!
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... They're really not all that awesome.
Edit: They're also not really that awesome even if the person playing them is good. I've yet to see that though.
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he said irritating not awesome
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If you`re a healer and you can endlessly heal yourself...well the trade off there is that you`re unlikely to hit hard enough to rteally put me out.
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Don't ever go up against a triform PB; seriously. You think aid self is annoying? How about shields, 3 heals, a self rez, built in stamina in Nova form; tank form, rather high knockdowm AND fairly good damage?
And to top it all, if things get hairy we also have Light Form (Unstoppable to you tankers).
Not that I'm saying they're PvP gods, they're not. But played right they can be a REALLY irritating opponent.
Oh, and a high level WS is even WORSE!
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And no mez-protection outside dwarf or light form...
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If you`re a healer and you can endlessly heal yourself...well the trade off there is that you`re unlikely to hit hard enough to rteally put me out.
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Don't ever go up against a triform PB; seriously. You think aid self is annoying? How about shields, 3 heals, a self rez, built in stamina in Nova form; tank form, rather high knockdowm AND fairly good damage?
And to top it all, if things get hairy we also have Light Form (Unstoppable to you tankers).
Not that I'm saying they're PvP gods, they're not. But played right they can be a REALLY irritating opponent.
Oh, and a high level WS is even WORSE!
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... They're really not all that awesome.
Edit: They're also not really that awesome even if the person playing them is good. I've yet to see that though.
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Actually, I think someone with aid self has much more survavility on duels than a 3 heals PB... let alone WS
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If you`re a healer and you can endlessly heal yourself...well the trade off there is that you`re unlikely to hit hard enough to rteally put me out.
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Don't ever go up against a triform PB; seriously. You think aid self is annoying? How about shields, 3 heals, a self rez, built in stamina in Nova form; tank form, rather high knockdowm AND fairly good damage?
And to top it all, if things get hairy we also have Light Form (Unstoppable to you tankers).
Not that I'm saying they're PvP gods, they're not. But played right they can be a REALLY irritating opponent.
Oh, and a high level WS is even WORSE!
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... They're really not all that awesome.
Edit: They're also not really that awesome even if the person playing them is good. I've yet to see that though.