What is the best combo for soloing AND teaming?
By
Alvan,
Posted on: 2007-07-04 10:18 in Controllers
Fire/Kin
SB plz.
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Fire/Kin and Fire/Rad are both very strong soloers and teams are generally happy if they can get their hands on one, too.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
IMHO mate, i have just started a controller its about lvl 11 i think, and its Ill/Shields:
I found it very managable for soloing because while Illusions attacks Hold they do substantial damage at the same time, spectral wounds does quite a bit itself, and i found that i could take on some heroic missions without getting hit too many times.
Then you said you wanted to be useful to a team as well, shields is that, useful for teams, increasing their defense against certain attacks, great buffs, everyone loves bubblers in a team 
Also, to be more useful to a team, if you choose medicine from the other power pool, and get aid-self and aid other-even though they are easily interupted-they can be used inside personal force field so you wouldnt get interupted and therefore you can be a good controller as in u control enemies, defense buff team mates, and also heal them.
Most of all, fun powers to play, they suit me fine, and im sure you'd love them too!
Hmmm, Illu/FF won't be too strong later in the game since you are simply too defensive and lack the capability to boost your (or your pets') damage. Force Fields are nice for teaming, but soloing in the 30ies will be rather slowish, especially when compared to /Kin or /Rad (both work excellent with Illusion Mastery, too).
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
Fire, Illusion, Grav and probably Mind are decent soloers (in that order roughly), Earth and Ice are a bit lacking in damage maybe. Rad, Kin, Storm and TA are good versitile secondaries that work well for soloing or teams as they don't require teamies to get the most out of them.
Mix and match out of that really.
Ive found Illusion one of the best solo sets ive played with the 3 pet powers, giving you 3 tanks, a great holding pet and a blaster (who brings his mates!!) to give you a mini team of your own.
The only thing is the set dosnt really get goin until PA.
As for secondarys i have just made a ill/storm still only a baby but im really looking forward to lvling it, its goin to be chaos 
IMO that depends which way you feel comfortable. For many people best solo controllers are Fire and Illusion because their damage output. But for me, even with the lack of a pet, Mind is the best way to solo in my own terms.
There's a good guide about controllers in USA forums written by the most talented guide writer i've seen so far.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showf...Number=5642571
Maybe little old but still has good points about sets and possible combinations.
So i say try controllers and find which is fine for you.
Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
I really should do something about this signature.
Fire/ Sonic, 3 Mindless Killing mashines Resbubbled and one with an Agro/Resdebuff Shield, sounds funny for me
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As for secondarys i have just made a ill/storm still only a baby but im really looking forward to lvling it, its goin to be chaos
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Oh, my first lvl50 is an Illu/Storm troller and if it is chaos you expect that is just what you get. Great fun and strong as hell, but you have to be a little bit careful in teams.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
In (bigger) teams ill/storm is really bad unless you have some other troller(s) spamming -KB immobs a lot. All the KB just makes it awfull for the melee types and AoE massacre as well as control is just totally ruined by it.
Apart from that it's a very nice combo
Fire/son. Very yummie on paper, now if they just ffs fix oilslick after 1,5 year of us asking and asking so it doesn't render your nice little gimps near useless.
And as far solo goes as said:
prime--> fire/ill/mind/grav
second--> rad/storm/kin
For teaming: all is good as much as you like it. (ah except ill/storm as said above 
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Fire/son. Very yummie on paper, now if they just ffs fix oilslick after 1,5 year of us asking and asking so it doesn't render your nice little gimps near useless.
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Did I miss something or since when does Sonic have Oil Slick? 
n00b...
And Sonic is not the best for soloing. Really.
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
*Cough cough. Aww it doesn't? Must have screwed my head on upside down after my siesta. But /TA does have a slick surprisingly and coincidentally convenient.
Anyway Son will get a slick in the future, mark my words!! One day... and then we'll see whose laughing last.
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Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
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why avoid empathy?
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Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
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why avoid empathy?
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It's a bit of a waste when soloing (meaning you could get a lot more out of other secondaries) and in many cases it will be hard to take all the powers you want given what you need from your primary/pools. So unless you PvP, I agree with PRAF.
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
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why avoid empathy?
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It's a bit of a waste when soloing (meaning you could get a lot more out of other secondaries) and in many cases it will be hard to take all the powers you want given what you need from your primary/pools. So unless you PvP, I agree with PRAF.
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Yeah its a waste buffing your phantasm with AB and Fort and yourself with Recovery and regen aura....
Unfortunately some people think that empathy is only good for heals apparently. It has some of the most powerful buffs in the game
Might want to read my reply more carefully.
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Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
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why avoid empathy?
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It's a bit of a waste when soloing (meaning you could get a lot more out of other secondaries) and in many cases it will be hard to take all the powers you want given what you need from your primary/pools. So unless you PvP, I agree with PRAF.
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Yeah its a waste buffing your phantasm with AB and Fort and yourself with Recovery and regen aura....
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In bold what I mean. And I stand by it, when soloing you will get more out of rad/TA/storm debuffs, Fulcrum, etc. Try it 
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Unfortunately some people think that empathy is only good for heals apparently. It has some of the most powerful buffs in the game
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Not me, hence my point about "it will be hard to take all the powers you want" (from your secondary).
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
Its down to playstyles really. If you want to concentrate on your primary then empathy allows you to do that as you just fire off your buffs and you are ready. TA/Kin/Rad require you to use your secondary much more actively.
However my point is that empathy is not a secondary to avoid.
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Its down to playstyles really. If you want to concentrate on your primary then empathy allows you to do that as you just fire off your buffs and you are ready. TA/Kin/Rad require you to use your secondary much more actively.
However my point is that empathy is not a secondary to avoid.
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For soloing I'd say it is, in comparison to the debuff sets. Especially if the primary is Illusion (Pantsasm, even buffed, is a big n00b). PAs are where its at.
I've found Grav/TA slightly tricky soloing EBs in the last few days (Terra & Envoy of Shadows) but the medicine pool and multiple immobs and holds along with Singy saw me survive. Good fun though, much more knife-edge than with my previous controllers.
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Ill or Fire primary
Kin, Rad, TA, Storm or Sonic secondary
Avoid: Empathy
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why avoid empathy?
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It's a bit of a waste when soloing (meaning you could get a lot more out of other secondaries) and in many cases it will be hard to take all the powers you want given what you need from your primary/pools. So unless you PvP, I agree with PRAF.
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Yeah its a waste buffing your phantasm with AB and Fort
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Pretty much. I have never known a phant get low on end, and his damage is rubbish, so if you are reallying on him to kill mobs without a damage buff (or -res) your going to level really slowly, and really, who cares if he gets mezzed, its not as if he contrabutes much anyway. And as for PA, they are compleatly unaffected by any empathy power, only -res powers can help them.
I really should do something about this signature.
I have personal experience of levelling a ill/empath to 50, it is an incredibly powerful combination, the phantasm and his 2 decoys can do plenty of damage, however they are not relied upon as illusion can do plenty of damage on its own too
Pantsy has one decoy, PAs have 3.
I'm not knocking illusion/emp. Just saying for soloing it isn't the best choice available. Not saying its the weakest or even weak in itself, just not as strong as other options (like Illusion/Rad).
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Pantsy has one decoy, PAs have 3.
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not with AB, he can summon 2
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I have personal experience of levelling a ill/empath to 50, it is an incredibly powerful combination, the phantasm and his 2 decoys can do plenty of damage, however they are not relied upon as illusion can do plenty of damage on its own too
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Solo?
I really should do something about this signature.
I want to roll a troller but I'm utterly clueless as to the best power combination for soloing yet still being handy in a team. Can anyone help?