Illusion / Empathy... or Kinetics?

Can someone shed some light on which one would be better? I'd like to benefit for teams but also be able to solo (only the odd badge mission, not a great deal). I can see how the two sets are both good but I have come to a halt on which one to choose.

I would say that kinetics is a great fun set to play, but as stated empath is a fun set too.

What I would say is what exactly did you want the toon for, kinetics would help soloing alot with the +recharge and PA but then empath is a very useful team support and coupled with SI it can help you be a pvp empath with some nice tricks

I played an ill/Empath to 18 before getting bored of him, but that was mostly to how I chose to play the secondary pool, i.e. not alot.

Kinetics is great set to use, with SI and SiSpe you don't ever need a travel power, especially with IR later on.

However (and this is coming from somebody with a ill/kin at 50) the Synergy isnt great. Sonic/Rad etc would be better...to Debuff the enemies so your PA deals more damage to them, as they can't be buffed.

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well my ill/emp troller is lvl 33 now and the game play chnages alot once you get Phantasm .. well it did for me just stick at it io's are your friend they make a huge differnce to your healing and end imo

I got a lvl 42 Ill/Sonic Troller. I enjoy playing him, but he is a weak PvE build. He is good in PvP but I don't like PvP. Guess I have to get him to 50 anyway.

Ill/Emp is fun but gets boring in the high levels...
Ill/Kin is pretty fun until about 40-50 where you get a bit bored with it...

My Ill/Kin really came alive for me in the run from 40 to 50 - you have Fulcrum properly slotted then and you have the ancillary pools which give the option of picking up some attacks so you can play a more direct role in dealing damage. Both teaming and soloing became more enjoyable for me those last 10 levels.

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I got a lvl 42 Ill/Sonic Troller. I enjoy playing him, but he is a weak PvE build. He is good in PvP but I don't like PvP. Guess I have to get him to 50 anyway.

Ill/Emp is fun but gets boring in the high levels...
Ill/Kin is pretty fun until about 40-50 where you get a bit bored with it...

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Lmao!!! Please please don't go to SWG!!! I mean it!!

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I got a lvl 42 Ill/Sonic Troller. I enjoy playing him, but he is a weak PvE build. He is good in PvP but I don't like PvP. Guess I have to get him to 50 anyway.

Ill/Emp is fun but gets boring in the high levels...
Ill/Kin is pretty fun until about 40-50 where you get a bit bored with it...

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Lmao!!! Please please don't go to SWG!!! I mean it!!

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Meh... for once I have to agree with Dark

Not the first time you say that lately... I must be doing something wrong

Go Illusion/Kinetics, it is a dream of a set. But Illusion/Radiation is king! Theses sets (with pets and powers in mind) mesh together better.

Although I know it's a popular choice, I don't think Ill/Kin has a good sinergy (melee buffs and heals, ubbuffable decoys, ranged pet) Although theya re both so great separately that they make up.
Illusion has best sinergy with rad, emp or storm, imo.
/kin, with fire, no doubt

Yep, I'd agree. Illusion/Kin doesn't have the best synergy, Pantsy won't get in range for Fulcrum Shifts and the Decoys work best with sets that can debuff Defense and Resistance.

Kin with Fire or Earth I'd say, Earth does defense debuffs with its holds and immobs (and Quicksand) giving your Kin moves a better chance of hitting. Very team based combo though.

Illusion/TA is the path less chosen and a good combo too, the PAs would make up for the lack of survivablity of Trick Arrow and they're the only pet I know that doesn't flee in terror from burning Oil Slicks from what I can tell.

Sorry Carnifax, but Earth/Kin isn't better for solo? I was thinking about making one for soloing but if it is a team friendly build i can change to grav/kin or grav/ta.

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Sorry Carnifax, but Earth/Kin isn't better for solo? I was thinking about making one for soloing but if it is a team friendly build i can change to grav/kin or grav/ta.

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No, its got the worst damage of any of the sets really and loads of AOE mezzes, so works better on teams. Plus Kin shines on teams mainly too for the AOE heals, Speed Boost and Fulcrum Shift.

Grav/TA rocks. My current FOTM. Probably the best current synergy with Oil Slick given what it currently does to Fire Imps. Good single-target control & damage and quite tactical. You find yourself thinning out mobs with immobs & ducking into cover a lot in the teens, Wormhole is a great solo AOE mez and you get 3 of the best powers in the 30s. Make sure its a Magical or Tech Origin one though.

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Sorry Carnifax, but Earth/Kin isn't better for solo? I was thinking about making one for soloing but if it is a team friendly build i can change to grav/kin or grav/ta.

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Carni is right (as usual ). Although you can certainly solo an earth/kin, the damage is very weak until your Epics basically (Mr Poo helps a bit with tanking, but still not much). It's great for teaming though.

Happy B'day Okt

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Sorry Carnifax, but Earth/Kin isn't better for solo? I was thinking about making one for soloing but if it is a team friendly build i can change to grav/kin or grav/ta.

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Carni is right (as usual ). Although you can certainly solo an earth/kin, the damage is very weak until your Epics basically (Mr Poo helps a bit with tanking, but still not much). It's great for teaming though.

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Yeah! happy cake day!

Just recently made illusion/emp! Its pretty slow early off, mainly healing. Looking forward to getting those pets!