Well how pure... depending on if you want to marry dress in white 
Nah, all empath powers are quite nice. If you want to be a pure empath, I wouldn't skip any of them. Circumstances will say if your team needs you mainly to heal (low levels mainly) or to buff (more commonly later on), when you'll have time to use some of your blasts too, tho.
I used to think if someone was missing something people take for granted as a must have then they should let people know. But these days i think its better if people checked other peoples builds before starting.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Most pure empaths consider themselves pure if they have only taken their obligatory attack and then everything else from primary + useful pool powers (although many Empaths who wouldn't call themself pure also have builds like this...).
I guess you just need all powers from primary and have them sufficiently slotted. At least thats what I would think of when someone calls themselves 'pure empaths'.
Perhaps... however the majority of times where I have seen people call themselves Pure Empaths they have gone with the only one attack power (maybe two if they have the nuke)
I wouldn't call myself pure and I have all the primary powers, and they are all slotted up.
Maybe those 1 attack people should call themselves 'pure defenders' or something, but that would be bit contradictory name.. Because defenders DO have a secondary 
I always use my 2 attacks with my empath whenever I can, although I have concentrated on buffing and healing.
Empaths with no attacks and all pool powers don't deserve the right to be called "pure defenders" ; maybe "pure garbage", or "pure healers" if you want to be nice.
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Empaths with no attacks and all pool powers don't deserve the right to be called "pure defenders" ; maybe "pure garbage", or "pure healers" if you want to be nice.
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Well said! 
I am skipping two powers from my Empathy Defender: Absorb Pain and (the one with a very long recharge but targets only one person) Clear Mind?
There is no such thing as a "pure" build. "Oh me, oh my. I took all my Blaster Primaries... I am a PURE BLASTER FTW!"...erm no you aren't.
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I am skipping ... (the one with a very long recharge but targets only one person) Clear Mind?
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Adrenaline Boost possibly?
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Well said! I am skipping two powers from my Empathy Defender: Absorb Pain and (the one with a very long recharge but targets only one person) Clear Mind?
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Clear mind has a fairly quick recharge so I don't think it's that one. The other two single target buffs you get (Adrenalin boost and Fortitude) have long-ish recharges, adrenalin boost being the longest...
Both are fab buffs tho...
sounds like i'm fairly "pure " then
take all the empathy power sets soon as they are available and keep up with a few of my secondarys for the very odd occasion when im not healing/ buffing
also taking leadership pool along the way
but what ever..i like the power set and love playing as an emp..which as i see it is the whole point.(that and enjoying the game).and looking after my team is a very big part of it
I've always seen the term applied to people who have no attacks, just Empathy powers (and usually all or most of them), and then more support-type powers from pools, at least later on. I'm pretty sure I've run into people who called themselves pure Empaths but were missing really good powers from Empathy (most often Fort and AB), which seems a little silly to me. 
Wouldn't a better name be "secondary-free Emp" in those cases? Or maybe even "pure healer" since that seems to be what they're going for...
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Well said! I am skipping two powers from my Empathy Defender: Absorb Pain and (the one with a very long recharge but targets only one person) Clear Mind?
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Clear mind has a fairly quick recharge so I don't think it's that one. The other two single target buffs you get (Adrenalin boost and Fortitude) have long-ish recharges, adrenalin boost being the longest...
Both are fab buffs tho...
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Fortitude! That's the one!
However, due to altering my character's powers I will be getting ALL Empathy Primaries! How "pure" is that for ya?
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OH. MY. GOSH.
Do not skip fort! The times I've not needed healing because of it... ah, makes many tanks/scraps nigh invulnerable!
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Well said! I am skipping two powers from my Empathy Defender: Absorb Pain and (the one with a very long recharge but targets only one person) Clear Mind?
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Clear mind has a fairly quick recharge so I don't think it's that one. The other two single target buffs you get (Adrenalin boost and Fortitude) have long-ish recharges, adrenalin boost being the longest...
Both are fab buffs tho...
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Fortitude! That's the one!
However, due to altering my character's powers I will be getting ALL Empathy Primaries! How "pure" is that for ya?
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If I could pick just one power from empath I'd pick forti If I could pick two, I'd go for clear mind
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If I could pick just one power from empath I'd pick forti If I could pick two, I'd go for clear mind
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Hmm... maybe I might get them after all
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Empaths with no attacks and all pool powers don't deserve the right to be called "pure defenders" ; maybe "pure garbage", or "pure healers" if you want to be nice.
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I dont see nothing wrong with a pacifistic type of character. Its a nice option.
If ya think they are lazy, go nuts, be suicidal and give them some work to do.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Empaths with no attacks and all pool powers don't deserve the right to be called "pure defenders" ; maybe "pure garbage", or "pure healers" if you want to be nice.
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I'll go with Pure Garbage, I really hate "pure" healers.
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I dont see nothing wrong with a pacifistic type of character. Its a nice option.
If ya think they are lazy, go nuts, be suicidal and give them some work to do.
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True, to each his own, you want to be a "pure" Empath, go for it, just don't expect me to keep you on a team for long.
(That said in lower levels going empathy heavy makes sense even in my book)
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Empathy heavy is quite useful itself for me at highest levels too, tho
Here is my Build for my Level 50 Empath.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Empathy
Secondary: Dark Blast
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01) --> Healing Aura==> Rechg(1) Rechg(3) Rechg(3) Heal(5) Heal(5) Heal(7)
01) --> Dark Blast==> Acc(1)
02) --> Heal Other==> Rechg(2) Rechg(7) EndRdx(9) Heal(9) Heal(11) Heal(11)
04) --> Absorb Pain==> Rechg(4) Rechg(13) Rechg(13) Heal(15) Heal(15) Heal(42)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(8)
10) --> Clear Mind==> Rechg(10) Rechg(43) Rechg(46)
12) --> Fortitude==> Rechg(12) Rechg(17) DefBuf(17) DefBuf(19) TH_Buf(19) TH_Buf(21)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14) EndRdx(50)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(43) Heal(43)
18) --> Recovery Aura==> Rechg(18) Rechg(21) Rechg(23) EndMod(23) EndMod(25) EndMod(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(29) EndRdx(29)
24) --> Resurrect==> Rechg(24) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
26) --> Regeneration Aura==> Rechg(26) Rechg(31) Rechg(33) Heal(33) Heal(33) Heal(34)
28) --> Assault==> EndRdx(28) EndRdx(34) EndRdx(34)
30) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(30) EndRdx(36) EndRdx(36) TH_Buf(45) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46)
32) --> Adrenalin Boost==> Rechg(32) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) Heal(37) Heal(37) EndMod(39)
35) --> Vengeance==> DefBuf(35) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(39) TH_Buf(40) TH_Buf(40) TH_Buf(40)
38) --> Grant Invisibility==> EndRdx(38)
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
44) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) Rechg(45)
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Swift==> Run(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I would say, you cannot get any more pure! I played All-Heal, because anything else did not make sense to me. You are the Healer, and do not want to get aggro. You want to keep every member in your team alive!
I use this char in 5TAR, and it has been so far a very good Healer for that matter. CM/Forti/AB/Grant Invis I know that I will have buff the team to get it, but it gets a lot more effective with it.
Give Forti to a tank or scrapper (a SR scrapper for say) and they are on a roll. Especially SR scrappers get their Defense nearly doubled (without Elude).
Give CM and Grant Invis to any squishie around and they'll be fine. It is a good way to keep them from drawing aggro, and those crazy Blasters that mistake themselves for tanks are a little more secure.
AB... What more can I say to Adrenalin Boost, for me maybe one of the most effective Buffs in the game!
As APP I took Power Mastery, because of Conserve Power, running all leadership toggles, acrobatics and CJ can get pretty Endurance-heavy after longfights. The main reason is Power Build Up. You can up your healing skills 100% with this power. Hit Power Build Up and buff AB... You know AB, now imagine AB with a 100% Regen-Increase!
Leadership is a no-brainer I think. For PvE, more Accuracy and more Damage, as well as a nice Buff if someone died (Vengeance). For PvP it really becomes a necessity! You get a huge buff to Perception (paired with CM you basically see through everything), more Damage, resistances to Fear and Confuse and Veangeance! Veangeance is a match deciding power. If you have a coordinated 5TAR team and everybody knows what they are doing, this can make you unstoppable. In 5TAR ppl sometimes die, no doubt about it, but if they do you can kick in Veangeance (that's where the coordination comes into play, the killed person has to lie on the ground for a couple of seconds so you can react). Afterwards, it is really hard to kill your team!
Concerning Absorb Pain, I think this power is crucial! With Heal Other you will take at least 2 Heals for a tank, with Absorb Pain just one. A lot of people do not take it, because they cannot heal for a while, but personally I think an empath should not be in the area of damage in the first place. Taking Absorb Pain is to me all about being more effective in the team!
I would not play my Empath anything else than pure, it is just the most effective way in my opinion.
Kaiser
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Leadership is a no-brainer I think. For PvE, more Accuracy and more Damage, as well as a nice Buff if someone died (Vengeance). For PvP it really becomes a necessity! You get a huge buff to Perception (paired with CM you basically see through everything), more Damage, resistances to Fear and Confuse and Veangeance! Veangeance is a match deciding power. If you have a coordinated 5TAR team and everybody knows what they are doing, this can make you unstoppable.
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I have never considered leadership pool as a no-brainer on ANY toon.. Sure it can be good but no-brainer? nah. My MM is respeccing out of it soon.
I think it is a no-brainer on an Empath. Every other character has a secondary objective or too many toggles to actually run it effectively.
An Empath only has to support, it is its main objective. Kinetcs/Storm/Rad/etc-Defenders do have other things to take care of, may it be containment, trolling or buff/debuffing. Just by having such a restricted purpose in a team, the empath should do everything to support the team. Which means, passively adding Accuracy, Damage etc.
Nonetheless, the Empath's Endurance Usage is not as heavy as other ATs/Defenders. Another reason to take it.
I love Leadership, and would never get rid of it. Maybe I just wasn't clear enough, in an Pure-Empath's Build Leadership is a No-brainer.
Kaiser
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An Empath only has to support, it is its main objective. Kinetcs/Storm/Rad/etc-Defenders do have other things to take care of, may it be containment, trolling or buff/debuffing.
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This has probably been discussed a million and one times already..but...an instance today prompts me to ask..
"How pure do you have to be to be a PURE empath??"
as i was on a team and was told by the defender on duty..dont worry im a pure empath
ive curently got 2 defenders, one thats empathy/archery
and my newest one thats empathy /rad