being branded a n00b in a pvp zone

there should be a message when you start a pvp zone

"name calling wont be tolerated...specialy when its past your bed time..... you n00b"

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there should be a message when you start a pvp zone

"name calling wont be tolerated...specialy when its past your bed time..... you n00b"

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LOL and LMAO @ ur sig

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I get called a n00b very, very frequently. My stock reply is "Yeah. A lot of dead heroes tell me that."

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(Virtual) Stars for you!

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Thank you.

I find it's a pseudo-subtle way to remind folk that you just killed them. Over broadcast. Where everyone else can hear.

This normally prompts some white-hot, white noise in return from the sort of people who bandy about the "n00b" word.

The way i avoid conflict in pvp is by complimenting them on how well they fought. Admittedly can sound a bit sarcastic if you two hit them before they even know your there but saying something positive, even if its just something like "your power set gets really powerfull at higher lvl's" can lighten the mood and make the 'victim' feel a little less tempted to call you names. Of course there are those few.... ahhh bless bed time is only round the corner.

I tend to complement people that kill me. I run leadership and rarely stay still (Inertial dampening) so if someone does AS me it's a fair cop as I had dropped my guard (or more usually responded really badly.

I'm a kinetic defender. When I go to PVP I *know* I'm going to get my [censored] handed to me, so why be unpleasant about it? I also know that should I find a decent team that sticks together to run around with my buffs can help make it a mincing machine. Not too many of them around as PUGs though.

i've never been abusive when i've been face planted by a stalker, frequently have actualy said nice AS etc
i got a stalker, and not naming names and pointing finger here, but started pvping in bloody bay, ran into a bubbles troller with a couple of scrapper friends going round, I managed to face plant the bubbles and bubble boy then got abusive, (my alts called squishy ganker) and one of their comments was i should have called my alt something slightly dif (last name starting with W not G) now normaly i'm the type of player that leaves afk or resting player in peace, but this guy got quite abusive, i probley should have pertitioned him for it, instead i face planted him again, started scrapping with the scrappers (at which point a friend joined me on a ice corr) i happened to look over, and cause bubbles was still being abusive to me and also to my friends, saw em pop an awake, case of placate BU AS face plant, go back to scrapping with the scrappers, saw him use another awake, with him still being abusive, as i was just firing off another attack, targeted him as the attack went off and put on follow as hide kicked in, followed him, went for BU&AS again, just in time for him to hit rest.... funny soon after that the abuse stopped... .
end of day DONT be abusive to peeps in pvp. and yes the word NOOB is being gen used these days to mean a veriaty of very impolite words, it's one thing for friends to banter it round amoungst themselfs it's quite another and very insulting at times to throw it at other players. personaly i've never used the word noob and wont do so for the fact it's freq- ment as an insult. peeps being abusive to one another specialy over broadcast can bring an entire pvp zone down, and take away the fun in there. i've seen 2 players in sc before now (not naming any names) giving each other a LOT of abuse over broadcast, which got to the point that after several times of asking then telling them to either take it to tells or zone, i actual pointed out they were acting like a certain infamous defiant player who got banned a while back, then when they still carried on i did turn round and threaten to pertition BOTH of em for their conduct, which did make them tone it down and stop with the abuse on broadcast. point being peeps being abusive to others in pvp zones, RUINS EVERYONE ELSES FUN. so please DO NOT DO IT.

You see you were in a tricky spot there anyway. You had done nothing wrong by attack the troller and for them to become abusive, well they deserved what they got. One situation which i found particularly irritating was when i was using my Emp defender. Several of my friends were in warburg (heroes and villains) and were fighting one on one. a few other unknowns decided to join the fun, which was welcomed (The more the merrier). Now Being a defender and an empath at that i wsa about at much use as boobs on fish in pvp zones anyway, and all i was doin was watchin the action. and if a hero went down they would inv me so i could tp them out rez them and send them on their way. just to save them the trip to hospital so they could get back into the fun quicker. Bearing in mind that this was an agreed one versus one duelling session ( i know arena for duels etc) there was one stalker whom i had noticed was chickening out constantly. he would fight, get close to death, sj away, hide wait to regen and then re-appear and AS the person whom he had been fighting, this person who had already given up on the stalker and moved on to another fight. This was causing endless irritation as this seemed to be his reputation gaining tactic. Some might call it clever, and i suppose in some situations i would tend to agree. HOWEVER in this situation where everyone, including him had agreed that it was a duel scenario, just made him look like a coward. People got fed up eventually and started telling him to either fight properly or leave, as he was spoiling it for everyone else. I remained silent, i was not participating in the duels so i had no place telling anyone what to do. I assumed he had left. WHACK, assassin strike followed by another attack. Down goes me. Fair play. I congratulkated him on his easy kill, went to hospital and returned to my position and continued to watch the show. My demise was not as well recieved by the other player though (again both sides) who were by this point getting very annoyed with the stalkers shennannigans (Spelling??). His argument was that nobody knew how hard it was for a nrg regen stalker, which get several laughs from ppl in the zone. And that he had a very high reputation which he was very proud of and that everyone who disagreed with his tactics was a n00b. this is where i spoke and asked him if he knew what n00b meant and if so how he could justify calling almost an entire zone full of players both sides (i feel it worth mentioning that there were two other scrappers playing nicely with everyone else) all n00bs. Whack Assassin strike again. Down goes me again. I congratulated him on yet another easy kill and more easy rep points. At this point i started gettin tells from my freinds asking if i wanted them to gank him a few times to get rid of him, to which i replied no. if he wanted to rack up the easy kills i wasnt bothered. literally the second i returned from hospital.... Whack assassin strike again. follwed by "HA!! i pwned you n00b". Stand by boiling point nearly reached, flash imminent!!. i managed to refrain from being abusive and went to hospital again. Im a defender right i should expect to get nailed all the time in pvp right? NO Had i been engaging or even buffing ppl, i would expect to become Involved in the action. but watching the action and becomming some stalkers last resort for reputation points is just insulting and very cowardly on his part. I have to admit this soured my opinion of stalkers for a long time and i apologise to all the stalkers who do have some honour or even manners, but it will be a long time before i take stalkers pvp reps seriously. The point of my little story is that THAT is what i call a n00b (btw i never actually use that word but since this is what the post is about...)

I do have a few peevs about pvp, but i do realise that they are anything goes zones. But its obnoxious characters like that that make people not want to enter the zones. Most of my sg dont bother with pvp now, not through fear of getting beaten but just to avoid the cocky a**holes that seem to inhabit them all the time.

Ganking is an interesting topic as well. Everyone hates being ganked but will happily do it to other people. I think everyone has had a few choice words to say when people do it to them and yet they are surprised when the shoe is on the other foot. The point is that i know that there are role players out there who take the fact that they are villains very seriously and see no err in gankin, ambushing etc, but i think there is a line. Heroes ae just as bad mind you.
A good friend of mine was doin some missions in sirens call on his brute (great xp, that diffuse bombs one) but was the only villain in sirens at the time, needless to say the twelve heroes in the zone could taste the bounty. They started goading him with various insults, buit he remained silent and went about his business. which obviously annoyed the hell out of them because they started camping out on his route of travel between the villain base and his missions, trying to catch him. they followed him to his mission and waited outside for him. as soon as he exited the mish whoosh he was teleported into the longbow base and held there until the various longbow defence npcs had killed him. NOW THEN!! some poeple i have told about this incident have replied with "Cool... Very cool" ironically they are mostly friends of the perpotrator. MOST people ive told this story too have sgreed that it was bang out of order. I disagree with ganking, but even that would have been preferable to this. to get another player debt intentionally is just bad form.
Now my friend has almost never used the word n00b and rarely gets into slagging matches, however he was furious about this and IMO justifiably so, and called them n00bs and cowards. to which they retorted with more insults. The first swear word that was uttered was unfortunately uttered by my friend. Bang!! in goes a petition and he gets a speaking ban for the night.

Make of it what you will.

The story at the end sounds a bit fishy. His mission would have to be very close to the hero base and he would have to sit outside his mission waiting for the pvp timer to run down. Even then, the drones would zap him before the longbow defences. As for the stalker, dont you think maybe he was just trying to get hide back up to maximise his inherent? Although he did go a bit nooby at the end.

I can only repeat what he told me as far as the first bit goes. i dont doubt him for a second when he says about the being held in a position where the longbow npcs took him out. as for how he actually got in that situation is a mystery. possibly he was beating the person senseless and they took exception to it. As far as he tells me it was a blaster so its highly likely that he had beaten said player before hand.

With regard to the getting hide back up, that may well have been the case and im not for one minute suggesting that duelling should mean stnding still until one of you ends up in a snotty heap on the floor. but it wasnt a case of getting hide back up, he would run off for a good few minutes before reappearing, coincidentally fully healed. not really what i would say was good form.

This is where again i get reminded that arena is for duels, but the way i see it is theres nothing wrong with doin it in pvp zones, and if you agree to do it, AFTER all the stipulations have been made which you have agreed upon.... DO IT PROPERLY, and die like a man if you are getting beaten. U dont get debt so that is no excuse. the short and simple line is that ppl like that love gettin their rep's high but poo themselves as soon as defeat is inbound. Hence why i dont take reputations in pvp zones seriously at all. And anybody who feels they have to boast about it rather then just geting on with it like everyone else has probably done so by similar means. How does the saying go?? "Those who do... do. Those who dont.. Boast about it!"

Ok, I can see how this might happen now with all the longbows in the zone. I thought you meant he was TP'd right into the base. Arena is best for duels because other people cant possibly barge in. I logged on last night, followed a PB and attacked only to get a load of abuse. Apparently they had already sent out broadcasts about a duel, I couldnt see there broadcasts as I wasnt even in the zone at the time.

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The way i avoid conflict in pvp is by complimenting them on how well they fought. Admittedly can sound a bit sarcastic if you two hit them before they even know your there but saying something positive, even if its just something like "your power set gets really powerfull at higher lvl's" can lighten the mood and make the 'victim' feel a little less tempted to call you names. Of course there are those few.... ahhh bless bed time is only round the corner.

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Yeah I try to compliment people on their "skills" where possible. Though some people do seem blind to any compliment you may give and just pick up on imagined insults.

I just laugh if people call me a noob, in the end their opinions dont matter to me or anyone else. And if they want to jump around insulting me because they defeated me in pvp, fine good for them.

Because when it comes down to it, I am the one who has actually achieved things with my life that count

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Again I have been branded a (N00B, NEWBIE etc...) Just because i AS'ed him into the ground needless to say he wasnt a happy camper but the best part is when he called me a n00b i relpyed with i am lvl 28 not excatly a and i quote "NOT REALLY A NEW PLAYER" to his replay being n00b doesnt mean new player which has now left me confussed does any other pvp stalkers out there that get branded this or am i the only one

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#3: From Wikipedia:

"Newbs are simply newcomers—noob and n00b, on the other hand, generally mean someone who is obnoxious, annoying, or breaks the rules or cannot play effectively; whether they are actual newcomers or not is mostly irrelevant. Therefore, a noob may be someone who has been around for a long time but still engages in behavior that he or she should have learned is unacceptable. Noobs are generally confident in what they are doing, but in reality are annoying others. "Newb" is not necessarily an insulting word, but "noob" usually is. If someone makes an unintelligent comment on a forum or asks a question that even other newbies could answer then it is said that they are making a "noobish" comment or asking a "noobish" question."


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And couldn't that sentence be taken to mean that ALL stalkers are n00bs, since they're usually both confident and annoying? (at least in Sirens...)

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What is being proclaimed to be the essence of "noob", sounds more like lam0r to me. The bit about being annoying and not playing by the rules or just using the most obvious tactic over and over where there isnt much of a counter to it. , to me describes a lam0r.

I struck the motherlode tonight. Five kills, three of whom called me a n00b, while the fourth obviously had me mixed up with someone else, because my name isn't Richard...

The only one who didn't say anything was the Christmas Ornament Troller sitting in her PFF, till that bubble burst.

So, Godfall, it really is something you're just going to have to learn to laugh off, until the Def Buffs on Hide include protection again n00b Accusations.

jaqueline, perhaps you can give some tips on the clear mind thread. a lot of aggro on there about how unfair pvp is to villains. your obviously doing it right

The Clear Mind issue isn't entirely to do with Stalkers. It makes a Stalker's life more difficult, but it can make a Dominator almost useless, as few if any of their powers work through spammed CM.

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jaqueline, perhaps you can give some tips on the clear mind thread. a lot of aggro on there about how unfair pvp is to villains. your obviously doing it right

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Clear mind is less of an issue for stalkers if you find some way to get to the stealth cap (grant invises from other ppl or hide+invisibility) and understand how close you can go before being spotted in that case. You will learn how to approach and pick your targets and then strike. Point is that you cant just stroll to any target and take your time ASing them.. need some tactics.

Approach from behind when they are not looking, or get fly and approach from above even. And so on and so on.

im with you hammerfall. Why i said that to jaqueline was that as im sure you have noticed, the clear mind thread turned into a b**ching session about how biased pvp is in favour of heroes. but as you just said. its about experience and knowing what you are doin.

I mentioned using good tactics and things got a bit snotty. Oh well such is life.

Again though, tactics are fine when you're talking about Stalkers. If I use the environment to sneak up on you, then clear mind just means you're going to have an untroubled passage to the afterlife as I push an enormous, poison-filled spine through your face.

If a Dom uses the environment to oh-so-tactically sneak up on a toon similarly-spammed with CM, then they're still going to acheive very little, because most of their toys are negated by the 6x10²³ applications of purple-noggin.

depends who you are sneaking up on really. People tend to forget about AT's for some reason. Now i know that people hate hearing comparisons between Hero and Villain AT's, but lets look at it logically.

In SHort, Pick on the wrong bloke, an regardless of CM they are gonna kick your behind round the four corners of the map, simple.

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In SHort, Pick on the wrong bloke, an regardless of CM they are gonna kick your behind round the four corners of the map, simple.

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Depends if the bloke has another toon cos he wont be doing much with a dominator.

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Again I have been branded a (N00B, NEWBIE etc...) Just because i AS'ed him into the ground needless to say he wasnt a happy camper but the best part is when he called me a n00b i relpyed with i am lvl 28 not excatly a and i quote "NOT REALLY A NEW PLAYER" to his replay being n00b doesnt mean new player which has now left me confussed does any other pvp stalkers out there that get branded this or am i the only one

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Being branded a noob in PvP zone is not something new.It happens a lot.Sometimes its the noobs themselves that yell towards others. Such situations are pretty clear to distinct

In my opinion and experience eing killed by someone in a zone only cause he is using his powers better than you and crying noob in broadcast/arena/local without any other reason that furtstration itself inicates more for the person being killed rather than the killer.

The usual practise of good pvpers in such situations woud be to simply keep it shut and come back at some point with revenge.Unless ofc the killer starts provoking the victim in which case the beast within us takes over

That sounds awfully close to turning to the dark side

On my experience, anybody who yells n00b in pvp zones is a n00b themselves.

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in which case the beast within us takes over

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Lets just go straight to this part, shall we?