Dark melee - Siphon Life


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HI,
im lvling my first hero in COH
was wondering if siphon life is worth taking, or should i go for Touch of fear ?
ALso please tell how to slot siphon life if its usefull


 

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IMO touch of fear you want, although it's questionable how much you'll use it later as it doesn't work brilliantly with death shroud, until 30s though it's amazingly useful for keeping one enemy out of the fight.

Siphon life is optional I think - I don't have it, but a lot of people like it and find is useful.


 

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hehehe....Xanthus' multiplying.

Who fed him after midnight!?!?


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hehehe....Xanthus' multiplying.

Who fed him after midnight!?!?

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IT'S TOTALLY NOT ME


 

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hehehe....Xanthus' multiplying.


[/ QUOTE ]*shudders*


 

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omg cant ppl get over it, im not that controller guy from defiant, read my damn signature atleast


 

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Anyone else find the funny in the thread title? "Siphon Life".

Also, Xanthus1, sorry if you take offense - but Xanthus isn't a common name, and we're used to our anti-furry, CAPS LOCK ABUSING, valley girl - it shouldn't be hard to tell you apart .


 

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HI,
im lvling my first hero in COH
was wondering if siphon life is worth taking, or should i go for Touch of fear ?
ALso please tell how to slot siphon life if its usefull

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And back OT... Since you're a Regen (Look! I read your sig!) the little bit of healing you'll get from Siphon Life won't be much help. Touch of Fear, on the other hand, would be extremely useful.


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As Tundra has said since your regen its not essential.

It does have a nice 20%ish heal when slotted up and can be handy with other secondarys.

Its damage whilst not great is pure Neg damage which can be handy also.

So if I were you I would only take it very late on if you have everything else you want.

ToF is great BTW!


 

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agreed - i took it on my first spec of my first scrapper, but i found it was: too slow nimation, too small a heal, too small a damage, too large an endurance cost and too long a recharge.

i tried it a multiple of ways when i had it as i 6 slotted it, i couldnt find a good combo to fit with the rest of the attack chain.

my advice would be to take Air Superiority from the flying pool in its place, its better at damage mitigation than siphon life


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funny enough i just built a new dm scrapper up to siphon life level last night, it seems its not the exactly the same power i had back way back when, the end cost isnt nearly as hideous as before, its still a pants heal mind you but im gonna work with it and see how it goes.

it is a shame that when you critical with it you dont critical heal yourself though, that'd make the power something special


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funny enough i just built a new dm scrapper up to siphon life level last night, it seems its not the exactly the same power i had back way back when, the end cost isnt nearly as hideous as before, its still a pants heal mind you but im gonna work with it and see how it goes.

it is a shame that when you critical with it you dont critical heal yourself though, that'd make the power something special

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I maybe should clarify a little... I didn't mean it's a dreadful power (and it certainly benefitted from the End reduction that came along with ED) - just that it's almost completely redundant for a /regen who already has a truckload of better healing ability.

I took it early on my DM/SR and never regretted it - kept me in the fight many a time.


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thats good to hear, its pretty much what i was hoping with this dm/sr im running - and totally agree even if it was a great heal, on a regen its pretty outclassed.


@ExtraGonk

 

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I did dump it on my DM/SR along with the ranged passive to getg Aid Self. I found at higher levels I rarely needed a small top up from time to time, but when I did need healing I needed a big boost, which Siphon Life doesn't cut it for.

Oddly I used it in my DM/Regen to keep healing pretty much constant, dropped it in my attack chain when DP was down then stopped using it when DP was back up again as a replacement for the regen in that power.

Different strokes I guess


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funny enough i just built a new dm scrapper up to siphon life level last night, it seems its not the exactly the same power i had back way back when, the end cost isnt nearly as hideous as before, its still a pants heal mind you but im gonna work with it and see how it goes.

it is a shame that when you critical with it you dont critical heal yourself though, that'd make the power something special

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I maybe should clarify a little... I didn't mean it's a dreadful power (and it certainly benefitted from the End reduction that came along with ED) - just that it's almost completely redundant for a /regen who already has a truckload of better healing ability.

I took it early on my DM/SR and never regretted it - kept me in the fight many a time.

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thats nice to hear i started a DM/SR, and one of the ky points in me picking DM was because of the heal it already had


 

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I really see no benefit from SL as a /Reg. I use it on my DM/FA Brute to great effect however, so I would not deride the power as "useless", but it has always seemed redundant on my own DM/Reg, whenever I have done respec experiments on test. On the other hand ToF is a great power for a scrapper though, especially with it's +ACC bonus that it gets from the get go. The fear duration is excellent, it recycles quickly and in concert with a Dark Defender you can even have the odd AV [censored] in it's pants! Not as useful with a brute though as you need the mobs to keep whaling on you to get the good old fury bar heading in the right direction.


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I doubt it'd be much use as a /regen BUT....

It's an attack. It damages the bad guys, it knocks their accuracy, it heals you, it recharges quick enough to fit into an attack chain every other run through for my dark/ scrapper. What's not to like?

OK, it has a long animation, although it looks quite nice and it's not a great heal. At level 50 with 3 heal SO's it comes up with about 290 hp heal (nearly 1/4 health) and damages less than Smite. As a dark/inv it kept me going quite well. As you're a /regen, it perhaps won't as you have the two good heals as well as your toggles and auto stuff.

Touch of Fear has a longish animation and it takes 2 or 3 applications to affect bosses. It always fears minions, it mostly fears lieutenants. It recharges reasonably quickly and seems to be inherently quite accurate. The mezzed bad guy still gets occasional hits back at you with it but on the whole he stays and takes your punishments.

As a /regen I would go with ToF and leave SL unless you find there's one of those levels where you just don't want to pick anything else. If you do decide to go with it, slot it two accuracy, three heals and an end reducer.


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I know the last post was over a week ago, but wanted to add my 2p worth.

I can't see you'll need Siphon Life as a regen, but it's your choice. Two things I'll say in favour of Touch of Fear are 1, that feared mobs hit you half as much, reducing incoming damage, and 2, the mob is rooted, making it easier to line up 2-3 mobs for shadow maul.


 

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Also fear add's a tohitdebuff as well, making it extra useful.


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Dont need a dark defender to make AVs cower, just 6 slots, a couple of them as HOs will do it


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They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"