Offensive Psi Defender


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Well.. it's a mad idea.. but heh.. about time I did something new again... and it might be interesting to see if it's possible.

A Blastery Psychic Defender,. much like a Rikti in some respects.

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Radiation Emission
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal Heal Heal Rechg
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
02) --> Subdue==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
04) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
06) --> Psionic Lance==> Acc Dmg Dmg Dmg
08) --> Air Superiority==> Acc Acc
10) --> Psychic Scream==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg
12) --> Swift==> Run
14) --> Fly==> Fly Fly
16) --> Health==> Heal
18) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod EndMod EndMod
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
24) --> Kick==> Acc
26) --> Tough==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx EndRdx
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc EndRdx KB_Dist KB_Dist
30) --> Assault==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
32) --> Tactics==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc EndRdx Rechg DisDur
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc Rechg Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx EndRdx
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc EndRdx Dmg Dmg Dmg
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty
01) --> Sprint==> Empty
01) --> Brawl==> Empty
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty
02) --> Rest==> Empty
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MaX mentioned adding RI/EF/LR from RAD pool.. but I'm not so sure on some of that.. as it makes it more a RAD Debuffer.. not a Psi Blaster.. if you get the idea..

I have no misgivings about it.. I'm not a Blaster and I won't be 1v1 with a group of 10 foes
(tho if I do it'd be cool.. and knowing me.. I might just try it...)

I'm not sure about slotting in some powers, as I'm not all Up-to-Date on my Psy powerset info.. so any info/ideas are appreciated.

Remember:: PSI BLASTER.. not.. RAD DEBUFFER/HEALER


 

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um.... you do know that rad/psi blastfenders are pvp fotms though you have found the wrong way of going about it, without the debuffs to raise your attack power your attacks will be hampered by low damage


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um.... you do know that rad/psi defenders are pvp fotms

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No I didn't..and at most.. you're talking Debuffers

I'm not a PvPer with it.. nor a debuffer.. me PSI Blaster

but hey..

you do know every AT in the game is PvP FotM, at some point or other?

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I relooked at the build and edited what I wrote, without the debuffs your damage will be too small get the debuffs in there and rule all.

and they are not debuffers, they are blastfenders


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um.... you do know that rad/psi defenders are pvp fotms

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No I didn't..and at most.. you're talking Debuffers

I'm not a PvPer with it.. nor a debuffer.. me PSI Blaster

but hey..

you do know every AT in the game is PvP FotM, at some point or other?

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I relooked at the build and edited what I wrote, without the debuffs your damage will be too small get the debuffs in there and rule all.

and they are not debuffers, they are blastfenders

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mmmmm.... what you think would be the better ones to go for.. I really don't wanna go down the DEBUFFER route, if anything the Debuffing would be for my own survival, not to allow mass teams to take down a GM, just because I have debuff ability...

... I have my Ill/RAD and Fire/RAD for that.

I guess, I'd like the "Defender" to stand on it's own as a "Psi Defender" not as a "RAD Defender, with too many Psi Attacks and not enough Debuffage".

Focus on Secondary, rather than Primary really.


 

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With i7 I respec'd Mystie to have alot more attack powers so I could go for PvP badges.

Will speak to you in game Raz.

Must say that the snipe and will domination are nice.

Took on 5 villains in RV once. Used a Katy pet. I had stealth, combat jumping, Mind over body and Assault toggles. Lasted 6 minutes apparently. Being Empath helped with that though...

I'm not really a PvP-er with Mystie but I was quite impressed I lasted so long


 

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If you want to focus on damage and not turn into a debuffer, take EF only. Lowers their res by 25% (i think), which is a nice boost.

Kudos on the idea, personally I'd try it without any of the debuffs first... by 24 you'll know whether it's do-able, right?


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If you want to focus on damage and not turn into a debuffer, take EF only. Lowers their res by 25% (i think), which is a nice boost.

Kudos on the idea, personally I'd try it without any of the debuffs first... by 24 you'll know whether it's do-able, right?

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Yup, I should know by then I think where the problems, lie.


 

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You need RI/EF/LR or your damage will suck. Period.


 

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You need RI/EF/LR or your damage will suck. Period.

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Well considering I'm not trying to BE a full blown Blaster... Psi is plenty DMG as it is and in it's nature of DMG. That and very few thing RES it as well.

No.. I don't believe I "NEED" those Debuffs.. any more than a SR scrapper "NEEDs" Aid Self to PvP (which you don't incidently). ... no.. I'm gonna go with what I've got.. . before I turn the Blastfender into a walking RAD debuffer, in my PoV.

I can do this as just as fine as any other toon I've ever done.. yea it'll be a struggle to start.. but at least it's an experience with an underused secondary.


 

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Thought about Kinetics instead of rad? if you arent taking debuffs siphon power, siphon speed, and fulcrum shift would be of more use to you . . .


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Taking RI/EF and LR will increase your survivablity and damage a LOT more than taking silly things like Kick, Tough and whatnot

If I was to make a Rad/Psi offender if you will it would look something like this (almost took me 30 secs to make!):

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Radiation Emission
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Radiation Infection==> TH_DeBuf(1) TH_DeBuf(42) TH_DeBuf(43) EndRdx(46)
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc(1)
02) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg(2) Rechg(3) Rechg(3) EndMod(15) EndMod(15) EndMod(40)
04) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal(4) Heal(5) Heal(5) Rechg(11) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
06) --> Subdue==> Acc(6) Acc(7) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Rechg(43)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Enervating Field==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc(16) Acc(17) Dmg(17) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Rechg(40)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc(22) Acc(23) Dmg(23) Dmg(25) Dmg(37) Rechg(40)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25)
26) --> Hasten==> Rechg(26) Rechg(27) Rechg(27)
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Rechg(34)
30) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(30) Run(31)
32) --> EM Pulse==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Rechg(33) Rechg(33) Hold(34) Hold(34)
35) --> Lingering Radiation==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Rechg(43) Rechg(46)
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(46)
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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With this kind of build (maybe with small tweaks) you will be a very effective Rad defender, Psi offender both in PvE and PvP instead of useless wannabe blaster.


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Psi is plenty DMG as it is and in it's nature of DMG.

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No, it's really not. Do you like having to use eight attacks to take down a minion? Because without debuffs that's what you're going to have to do.

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That and very few thing RES it as well.

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You would be suprised.

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No.. I don't believe I "NEED" those Debuffs..

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You can not "believe" it as much as you want, but that doesn't make it true.

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any more than a SR scrapper "NEEDs" Aid Self to PvP (which you don't incidently).

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What does this have to do with whether or not you're going to take arguably the three most important powers in the Rad Emission set?

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... no.. I'm gonna go with what I've got.. . before I turn the Blastfender into a walking RAD debuffer, in my PoV.

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I see no difference here. A blastfender is a character who uses debuffs to obtain near-blaster damage.

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I can do this as just as fine as any other toon I've ever done..

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Yeah, but PvE is a walkover anyway. There's no challenge, and you can't ever "lose" at PvE.

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yea it'll be a struggle to start..

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And a struggle half way through. And a struggle to finish.

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but at least it's an experience with an underused secondary.

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bahahahaha, you should play on the US servers for like 5 minutes. Nearly every defender you see is /psi. Psionic Blast is anything but underused.

Edit: If you want to make a Defender with sub-par damage, at least go with something like Force Fields where you'll get some kind of damage mitigation and mez protection.


 

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Thought about Kinetics instead of rad? if you arent taking debuffs siphon power, siphon speed, and fulcrum shift would be of more use to you . . .

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I have done.. and I'm thinking about it more and more, atm..


 

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bahahahaha, you should play on the US servers for like 5 minutes. Nearly every defender you see is /psi. Psionic Blast is anything but underused.


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I'm not on the US servers tho..
How many here use the /Psi secondary on a Defender .. that's NOT PVP RELATED!


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Yeah, but PvE is a walkover anyway.


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O.o mmmm.... I smell "PvP-esque" view...

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There's no challenge, and you can't ever "lose" at PvE.


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Okay..
tell me something.. of those ?/Psi Defenders over on the US now.. how many of them are PvP-related builds?


 

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I had a brain wave...

something that debuffs.. but can't be classed like a RAD.. *thinks*.. but still has Psi *thinks* and lets me do more DMG *thinks more*

*shouts*
Sonic Resonance/Psychic Blast!
*masses of applause*
ty ty ty.. too kind.. too kind...

*achem* Anyway.. yea.. trying it on Defiant atm and it aint too bad actually..

My only issue will be slotting powers and when to get what.. so what I'll do is take Archy 30-second build and refit it with "Sonic Resonance" a lil later on.

Btw.. meet: "N.G. Resonance" (N-Neuro / G-Gravimetric / Resonance)

NG 1

NG 2

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they are blastfenders

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Thought about Kinetics instead of rad? if you arent taking debuffs siphon power, siphon speed, and fulcrum shift would be of more use to you . . .

[/ QUOTE ]All of which, are debuffs


 

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bahahahaha, you should play on the US servers for like 5 minutes. Nearly every defender you see is /psi. Psionic Blast is anything but underused.


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One reason why I wouldn't want to play there. If everybody had identical toons then the world would be a boring place. Im sure its not that bad in there but the whole idea compels me.


 

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Why not try Trick Arrow /Psi? Its attacks & debuffs too but they're offensive debuffs like Acid Arrow and a few targetting attacks. It'd certainly look more offenderish than Rad. Plus you get bugger all defenses, just like a real Blaster

Yes, TA is my flavour o'the month this month.


 

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what xan said, psy is cacko uber dmg, we'd be more use just using a feather >.>

however, the stoof about mystie using CJ + assault (bang in tactics) the epic shield etc u alst a while :P

or if your me u go mad and.....

use TK then dominate, if that dont do nowt, slap out vanguard + dominate, mass sleep if u got some nasty corrs near, RA where neccessary, use regen scrapper pet aka marius to gank :P


 

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Why not try a slightly different approach to this?

I would take Dark Miasma as my primary for a Psi Blaster (and will probably roll this tonight as well).

DM has a lot going for it, to compliment a Psi Blaster concept. You would only need to take a few powers from the primary, leaving you free to slot up the psi attacks.

However the DM powers that you could take would really limit the incoming damage, lower the enemy resistance and provide a very good measure of mob control.

Personally, from Dark Miasma, I would take the following:

Darkest night: -Acc
Twilight Grasp: Heal, -Acc
Tar Patch: -Acc, -Res, Slow
Fearsome Stare: -Acc, Fear

Twilight grasp is really optional but would increase your chances of survival.... a lot

My opinion is that DM is well suited to being paired with a Psi Blaster. No one is looking for buffs from a Dark def.... hell most people dont have a clue what a Dark def is doing at the best of times. I even had one player totally miss the fact that I was pumping out a +357 heal during a level 40 Rikti mission last night

I only realised this when he uttered the immortal line....

"We dont have a healer"

Ah well...I digress.

My overall take is that a Psi Blaster will need some form of backup from the primary powerset to make it fun . You could probably do it but i think it could be a chore.

Anyway... whatever you pick, enjoy yourself


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I had a brain wave...

something that debuffs.. but can't be classed like a RAD.. *thinks*.. but still has Psi *thinks* and lets me do more DMG *thinks more*

*shouts*
Sonic Resonance/Psychic Blast!
*masses of applause*
ty ty ty.. too kind.. too kind...

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You do know that with Sonic Resonance, you only have one debuff which doesn't require an ally, right? And that Sonic Siphon sucks really bad if you don't stack it with the -res from the blasts? Like I said, if you want to have a set like that go with FF. You get all the same mez protection, but then you get fun stuff like Force Bubble as well.


 

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I tried this build and initially I really liked it, however the damage output remained low and soloing was a real problem.

My fave combo for a more offensive defender would either be Rad/Elec or Dark/Elec. With Fluffy and Voltatic Sentinal you become a mini-team all by your self.


 

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Do I smell an all offender team brewing? I see a couple people talking about rolling... 'em.

Zomg teh all */psi Blasting squadz0rz!