Cheers del,
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Aye, cheers for that.
I also like the no insps idea....but I thought it would favour the controller too much and people would moan and blasters would not enter it.
Then there is the 62.5%-37.5% idea, which needs a 20min limit and small insps only to work.
Then there is the 10 min + any insp idea which means that holds would be just about useless for the whole fight.
I settled for the middle ground, but already I have been accused on the CoH boards of trying to cheat and put things in favour of controllers too much.
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But as bob has stated, the entire point of this tournament was to see the inherent weaknesses of AT Vs. AT and try to find ways around it.
Again, you are basing your statements on the powers hitting 100% of the time, which won't happen.
I'm not even taking part, but I do feel some outside input is needed as there are people out there who I can guarantee will farm for insps etc to give themselves the winning edge and that will completely unbalance everything.
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im not entering and to be honest I think the inherant weaknesses in ATs are well known and publicised 
No insp use would be great in a 1AT tournament but in a league no insp would just eliminate more ATs and players IMHO
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no inspirations means defenders/controllers/blasters are meat for other ATs
No inspirations means defenders and blaster are total meat for controllers.
Judicious inspiration use allows "weaker" builds to overcome inherant weaknesses, otherwise we may as well set up a scrapper only league IMHO
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This is the whole point though. You will get to see just how unbalanced the AT's actually are in PvP if no inspirations is a rule.
It should be rock/paper/scissor but i think in some cases they'll be the scissors to everyone elses rock.
Thats why I was trying to strike a balance as near to 50-50 as I could get.
Of course thats just my evil plan because I and only I have a self heal? There are going to be other controllers in it you know Xan? And it just a bit of fun to see where the big gaps lie....lighten up a bit for Gods sake...its not DOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!1!1!!
@Sweet Chilli
Xan, is your controller not Grav/Emp? :P
One other thing i haven't seen mentioned - are Kheldians allowed? Apolgies if it's there somewhere.
Yes, they certainly are. I was going to enter my PB, but I can't see her doing too well.
I did consider entering my MM too...jury is still out on that one though.
@Sweet Chilli
Lol this league is a joke.
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Xan, is your controller not Grav/Emp? :P
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Yes. Why do you think I can see how unbalanced the rules are?
You're all saying "Lets find out where the inadequacies in 1vs1 PvP lie! It'll be more balanced if we don't use inspirations!" I can tell you now, that with a match like that a controller will win. Even if he misses 2 holds out of every 5, he's still going to chain hold someone once their mez protection has gone and any controller can stack over any mez protection in less than 30 seconds.
I just don't see the point in entering a tournament where the winners are already layed out in front of you.
In S4 there was a tactical start rule. Everyones endurance started at 0. Any thoughts about how it would affect 1 on 1?
Regen scrappers would probably benefit most from it.
Another rule is no travel powers.
This would benefit Kinetic defenders/controllers with Inertial Reduction. (Its not a travel power) 
Can't think of any other rules that Arena can enforce atm.
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Xan, is your controller not Grav/Emp? :P
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Yes. Why do you think I can see how unbalanced the rules are?
You're all saying "Lets find out where the inadequacies in 1vs1 PvP lie! It'll be more balanced if we don't use inspirations!" I can tell you now, that with a match like that a controller will win. Even if he misses 2 holds out of every 5, he's still going to chain hold someone once their mez protection has gone and any controller can stack over any mez protection in less than 30 seconds.
I just don't see the point in entering a tournament where the winners are already layed out in front of you.
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You never know - there might be a few surprises - and it'd be nice to have some actual statistics to prove what 'everyone knows'.
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Another rule is no travel powers.
This would benefit Kinetic defenders/controllers with Inertial Reduction. (Its not a travel power)
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Doesn't matter, No Travel Powers doesn't actually stop them from being switched on, it just moves the speed/flight/jump caps really low. Speed Boost, Siphon Speed and Inertial Reduction are affected as well.
im getting confused now... so are the rules changing or not ?
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Another rule is no travel powers.
This would benefit Kinetic defenders/controllers with Inertial Reduction. (Its not a travel power)
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Doesn't matter, No Travel Powers doesn't actually stop them from being switched on, it just moves the speed/flight/jump caps really low. Speed Boost, Siphon Speed and Inertial Reduction are affected as well.
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I've never tested it lol, why don't they call it what it is and just say 'slow'.
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im getting confused now... so are the rules changing or not ?
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Rules will change if Sweet Chilli says they have. Or Healing Elf if he/she ever finds out how to use the forums.
I'm willing to entertain the idea of 'Tactical Start' if people want.
I dunno about limiting travel powers. Like deluge said its to test 100% of your powers against 100% of someone else's powers. I think it would be unfair to start to pick and choose which powers those were.
Having some bf's on hand would mean that squishies would actually be able to use some of their powers (which would be nice).
@Sweet Chilli
this really is going down hill very fast, a league is supposed to be competitive and fun, now it seems its a weird test with little fun and competition involved at all 
A PvP league is a great idea.
Now that thats out of the way, we already know which sets are going to dominate, we already know which sets are going to get butchered, we already know which sets have weaknesse's against other sets.
Why dont you actually make a new set of rules so that this league is actually 'fun' because at the moment "we" already know how its going to turn out.
Oh yeah, imo.
@SinghMC
I can drain a squishy of break frees in 4minutes.
I can drain a scrapper/tank of break free in 10minutes.
Does a 20minute match seem fair to you, under those circumstances? The match needs to be 10minutes, i don't care about the size of inspiration rules.
Lol this league looks rigged, for a controller to win. But then again, i could be wrong hehe!
Either way i'll still take part, unless my controller isn't levelled by then.
Could we get a date which this thing will kick off please. Hopefully in 2weeks i'll be 50. Maaaybe a week and a half.
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Lol this league looks rigged, for a controller to win. But then again, i could be wrong hehe!
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All the matches against me will be a draw. Anyone who's faced my defender on monday nights knows what they're going up against.
It's time for THE CAGE!!!!
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Lol this league looks rigged, for a controller to win. But then again, i could be wrong hehe!
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All the matches against me will be a draw. Anyone who's faced my defender on monday nights knows what they're going up against.
It's time for THE CAGE!!!!
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that the 1 u scream about on TS? 
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Lol this league looks rigged, for a controller to win. But then again, i could be wrong hehe!
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All the matches against me will be a draw. Anyone who's faced my defender on monday nights knows what they're going up against.
It's time for THE CAGE!!!!
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that the 1 u scream about on TS?
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rofl yeah he screams like a big girl
I'm tempted to enter my Blaster, with the right slotting I can stack almost as fast as a 'troller.
However, I know exactly how quickly a 'troller can stack, and if you consider there duration, it's a bogus rule. At least in my opinion.
With Power Boost Xanthus can quite easily stack 9 holds on my in about 45 seconds, that's without his Singularity churning them out as well.
If you want 'balance' when it comes to Hold>BF Ratio's, simply have a quick fight with Xan (Or Imaginary) in the Arena and you'll see how little BF's can mean.
The draw is a valid tactic to go for and some people might be tempted and are welcome to do that. But if you draw all your matches, you will do far worse than someone who won half of theirs and lost the other half, so you will finish lower in the league.
Hmm...just looking...I've never played the 5, 10 or 15 domination durations.
Is this basically first to 5, 10 or 15? Or is it getting ahead of the other person by 5, 10 or 15 kills?
I'm wondering what thse are exactly and if we could use these somehow. Your thoughts please?
@Sweet Chilli
But as bob has stated, the entire point of this tournament was to see the inherent weaknesses of AT Vs. AT and try to find ways around it.
Again, you are basing your statements on the powers hitting 100% of the time, which won't happen.
I'm not even taking part, but I do feel some outside input is needed as there are people out there who I can guarantee will farm for insps etc to give themselves the winning edge and that will completely unbalance everything.