Dominators coming of age in RV


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Well it seems that Dominators are no longer going to be considered the poor pvp choice, following a night in RV on test a solo dom was causing a VERY strong hero team big problems. Confuse was immense, holds were breaking through all sheilds and he seemed to have perma domination, he caused such chaos that it was a case of "kill the dom!!!" everytime we saw him.

Bilhazia5 was the dom in question and did very well for himself, looks like the buffs are a step in the right direction for Doms.


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Woot! Must level up so I can go to RV!


 

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Bilharzia was doing quite well on Union even before the changes. The buffs do seem like good ideas though, and I'm looking forward to levelling my own Dom, now.


 

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It was a lot of fun! I've always thought Doms were underestimated in both PvE and PvP, with Domination being the big problem in PvP. The reduced toggle dropping and accelerated domination definitely mean a change in tactics but on balance Dominators are much more potent now; if you read the US forums you'll see "Doms suck now, I'm outta here" because of exactly the same changes, so not everyone thinks the changes are big enough.

We're just as squishy as ever though so PvP before 50 is going to be tricky in RV when every Dom is public enemy number one. As far as last night goes, I was teamed up a couple of times but tended to wander about, mostly to find those Spider Robots; I did get a few tells from heroes which were pretty funny ;>


 

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Bilharzia was doing quite well on Union even before the changes. The buffs do seem like good ideas though, and I'm looking forward to levelling my own Dom, now.

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I agree as I was there in RV with my tank.. That stinking confuse lasts forever!!

Good show, Bil


 

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First thing I heard last night when entering Recluses' was someone complaining how the words "jeje nubs" were used. Wasn't hard to quess who was there Dominating the scene

Shame that the balance in RV is still such that it's pretty impossible to say anything about how things will eventually work (much like BB or Siren's back in the day). But with Domination having a more active role in play and both sides having access to Accolades and all their powers, RV should be quite a blast.


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Bilharzia was doing quite well on Union even before the changes. The buffs do seem like good ideas though, and I'm looking forward to levelling my own Dom, now.

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I agree as I was there in RV with my tank.. That stinking confuse lasts forever!!

Good show, Bil

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aye, i had 3 lots of tactics buffs on me at one point (1 of them my own) and confuse still took an age to turn off, resistence my proverbial


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I think I might whip Fraz over to the TS and download it later, see how fast I plant.


 

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I was always happy to have Bil on the team in Sirens, pre-changes, so I'm scared to think what he's like now if he's more powerful.


 

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dominators rock! anything with control primary rocks!

Shame about their secondary damage though its pathetic


 

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that is very true theredamge is really bad, maybe as bad as a defender? i was playing a defender and even held a dom couldn't kill me damge was to low and holds no long enought for him/her to take me down. but if theres a buff goin aroud for them then teamed dominators will be the new stalkers!!


 

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The only ATs I've have problems with so far are Regen and Super-Reflex Scrappers (running Elude), anything else I can knock out if I can stay alive for 20 seconds. It's possible to play Dominators as controllers without buffs/de-buffs and not take or slot assault powers, this makes your damage low; proper slotted attacks will do damage running domination. Surprisingly, Dominators don't do as much damage as Blasters, the reason for this is that they aren't Blasters, for Blaster level damage see Blasters under "B".

Dominators also don't play anything like Stalkers, they need to get into fights and keep fighting.


 

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Bil..got..stronger?...

omg like he wasn't a pain to fight already

its a good thing they make doms a bit stronger tho..Altho I still think they need someone at their side to kill..


 

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that is very true theredamge is really bad, maybe as bad as a defender? i was playing a defender and even held a dom couldn't kill me damge was to low and holds no long enought for him/her to take me down. but if theres a buff goin aroud for them then teamed dominators will be the new stalkers!!

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Defenders bad damage?...you never fought GL jazz then..he owns the arena:P


 

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All excellent opponents, almost all of whom have knocked me out, most more than once; who knows, they might make good villains.


 

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i never said they were anything like stalkers, but i have notice (especially tanks) are starting to see doms as the blight of pvp. more than ever "killl that dom!"" i hate that dom!!" "oh [censored] a dom!". i used to kill doms with no prob.. but they have ... ADAPTED!!
* runs in fear*.

they are become more hated than stalkers now IMO, only maybe alot more respected? ( the fact that a very squishy is taking u on, espeacially a tank, must deserve some respect at least!)Its good to see that more of the ATs are becoming more pvp-able, tansk are now also swearing at masterminds as they have found new ways of fighting as well. maybe if im lucky ,defenders will get a thread about how were kicking [censored]!

the closest i've had to that is killing a stalker with my T.A defender....


 

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Its good to see that more of the ATs are becoming more pvp-able

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That's definitely true and about time. The blasters are making a huge fuss because they are no longer the 2 second wonders, Dominators aren't poor cousins to controllers any more and tanks can have a role as tanks now. I've seen an Ice/Stone tank (Vostok) on test taking an insane amount of punishment and actually 'tanking' in pvp.


 

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Its good to see that more of the ATs are becoming more pvp-able

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That's definitely true and about time. The blasters are making a huge fuss because they are no longer the 2 second wonders, Dominators aren't poor cousins to controllers any more and tanks can have a role as tanks now. I've seen an Ice/Stone tank (Vostok) on test taking an insane amount of punishment and actually 'tanking' in pvp.

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In my opinion post-I7 pvp is going to be more balanced than it ever has been to this date! Majority of ATs and sets are now viable instead of the chosen few, and particularly since it all builds towards the team pvp goal, and open pvp. And those builds are now free to use their strengths and work true "superhero or supervillain" like instead of being nullified in a heartbeat by couple silver bullet solutions to everything.

I dont know why, but these simple changes to pvp have made me look at all the ATs differently in pve sense as well, Im gonna start a whole new bunch of alts now that I know I can venture to pvp zones with ALL of them, without being completely underpowered.

(well there may be SOME exceptions, but at least were going in the right direction for a frigging change!)


 

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its a good thing they make doms a bit stronger tho..Altho I still think they need someone at their side to kill.

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Something I learned in Siren's is that a Dominator / Stalker (and Brute) combination is a killer, it's more obvious to Brutes since they have a harder time getting into melee range; oh, and blasters can KO me just as easily Icy I'm sure you'll be glad to know! jeje


 

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that is very true theredamge is really bad, maybe as bad as a defender? i was playing a defender and even held a dom couldn't kill me damge was to low and holds no long enought for him/her to take me down. but if theres a buff goin aroud for them then teamed dominators will be the new stalkers!!

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With Domination up,the damage output is really nice.
2 Days ago Bilharzia kicked my [censored] pretty good - so now i run for the hills,if i ever see the red domination appear on my screen.
But i'm also an absolute PvP-Noob,never fought in BB,SC,WB or Arena.Still got more kills as defeats (but that's not really hard with a BS/Regen,i think).


 

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Yeah doms are becoming a viable pvp choice, first time ive ever been killed by a dom solo =)


 

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Think I was around with some of the above discussed about 'jeje nubs' (or whatever that phrase was) with my finally ported over controller.

Really, really impressive looking zone, PvP or not it actually feels fun to play with the five stations and toys really adding a great element to it all.

Then to top it off, chuck in my first sighting of Capt Mako and Ghost Widow (em afraid)

Was a welcome sight to see a dominator in that zone and for a few seconds get a look (finally!) of the plant pet

Didn't quite understand it all and if I mucked up anyones game then forgive this n00b

Oh and stone brutes 'running' I think is the saddest sight I've seen yet in the game - I felt geniuine pity for them


 

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The only ATs I've have problems with so far are Regen and Super-Reflex Scrappers (running Elude)

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Yeah, I sometimes run up to villains and hit elude, /em newspaper and go to the fridge. Now that SR scrappers are able to tell when elude is about to run out it's very difficult to catch them since they can escape and rest up.


 

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I think I7/RV is going to be a really nice balanced zone, with the domination pvp change i may actually reroll a dom and get past lvl 15 without deleting him.

My new stalker Stryka should be lots of fun in RV as she isnt remotely geared towards ASing people and being seen isnt really an issue, BlazeZen will be a silent assassin in the sky and Spyka is ....fun


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I'm looking forward to the release of I7, i'm planning to roll a pvp dominator, my current Dom just wasn't viable in pvp due to the lack of a decent inherent, finally the villains will get some control