PB. 
WS is more of a controlly type. More ranged and lock down powers. It's one of the more challenging ATs to play, I find.
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Hi All i'm trying to hit 50 so i can get a pb/ws, but i don't know which to choose.
I like to get stuck in with fighting, and enjoy taking on large crews, with this in mind what would you guys suggest that i choose.
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For that it's probably a Peacebringer, they're the most adept at it, especially at the lower levels.
Warshades are fun, mind. 
I would say for what you require a Peacebringer is your best bet. Warshades are good but they don't really come into their own until later levels, PB's are long term powerful.
Yeah, I think peacebringers are probably easier to get into.
My own view of WS vs PB..
WS = damage dealer
PB = (friendly) healer
aka scrapper vs defender
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WS = damage dealer
PB = (friendly) healer
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Sorry, what? A PB afaik has a single heal other power (which I won't be taking btw). It has the same powers in nova form and dwarf as a WS and whilst it doesn't have mire, which we hear so much about, it does have build up.
I can two-shot an equal lvl spawn with my 31 PB. I think that qualifies as a damage dealer.
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as i said.. my own view.
Anyway, WS has double aoe damage boosters, giving them far higher damage output. Since PB can heal/selfheal more then WS can do (leech heal?), i saw that as a more friendly set.
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Just a thought, but build one of each. You will then have the ability to play both and decide which suits your style of play better. I did this and am now the proud host of a lvl32 PB and 16 WS and I love them both. Having the level difference allows me to team right across my SG too.
I find that the WS is more of a teaming AT than the PB. My WS is much more suited to teaming as the more bodies on the floor the more I can restore myself etc.
I think that the WS benefits more than a PB (my opnion mind) in a team with more spawns of baddies (which equal more bodies) than the PB who doesnt need the bodies.
Reason being is that the WS needs more bodies (alive or dead) to buff itself where the PB doesnt.
If you like soloing then go PB if you like being in the thick of things surrounded by angry mobs then go WS. More risky but the buffs are worth it in my opinion.
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WS is more of a controlly type. More ranged and lock down powers. It's one of the more challenging ATs to play, I find.
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PB 1 hold - WS 1 hold
PB 1 PBAoE Stun - WS 1 Cone Stun
the WS gets the edge on controlling with an _uber_ single target Immob!!!
Wow, that's really controllery!!
Anyway, WS can do mass carnage, while a PB is better for picking single targets.
A PB is more like a scrapper, bosses and lieuts as first targets, while a WS fires at anything that moves, wipe the mob and gets back to the boss left alive with 10 hp 
Good points.
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That said, nearly all WS attacks do -recharge and -spd which does FEEL more controlly, I guess. 
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PB 1 hold - WS 1 hold
PB 1 PBAoE Stun - WS 1 Cone Stun
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Doesn't the WS alos have an AoE stun? Unchain Essence?
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PB 1 hold - WS 1 hold
PB 1 PBAoE Stun - WS 1 Cone Stun
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Doesn't the WS alos have an AoE stun? Unchain Essence?
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Plus a PBAoE stun in Inky Aspect and pets, of course. The PB "pets" don't count as they're morons and would sooner run into a wall than a mob.
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PB 1 hold - WS 1 hold
PB 1 PBAoE Stun - WS 1 Cone Stun
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Doesn't the WS alos have an AoE stun? Unchain Essence?
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Uhmm....Does that stun?
I never noticed it because when I hit Unchain Essence unless against AVs or tough bosses everything else is face down...
And about Inky Aspect, I've never heard someone say that DA scrapper are 'controllerish' but they have far better mob control than a WS can hope for with CoF and Oppressive Gloom
I wish I could get to the epic archetypes, but I focus on CoV, but I would pick the warshade anyway, overall they're equal but the choice is up to you, I wonder if epic archetypes will be coming out later on in CoV?
the stun on unchain essence is just a handy secondary effect at best, should see it as a "mini-nuke"
PB pets indeed are stupid, I pvped against PBs who use their pets only to have them float around me for the complete length of the match.
About the "WS are more controllerish, PB are more damage" discussion.. as J pointed out, I dont find WS controllerish AT ALL. It always implies WS arent able to deal damage compared to PBs which definately is not true.
As stated before, PB are all around decent, but the WS really shine at the higher lvls. I would also add to that the difference in buffs, PBs got self-buffs (i.e. click n forget) while WS got mob-activated buffs (i.e. the more mobs around you, the higher the buff, yet it can also miss). However, if you get the full buff of WS buffs, they outperform the PB buffs (2x mire on a large mob = dmg/acc cap).
Take a look at the list of powers and decide what goes best for you. Personally I loved my WS and just couldnt get into PBs. I loved Stygian Circle (dead *ahem*, arrested mobs around you give you hp and end, 2 or 3 are enough for full hp/end), eclipse (oooooh hello res cap and aoe mayhem in nova form), the pet (major damage and nice aoe, also love the fact you can multi-cast these) and of course the mires and quasar.
If you compare both PB and WS ultimate defensive power (light form vs eclipse) I'd have to say eclipse is better. It has psi resistance, allows you to shapeshift and has no drawback when it runs out. Whilst if you compare it to light form, light form stops you from shapeshifting so you have to rely on your human powers and when it wears off you are drained of your hp and end. Of course the drawback on eclipse is that you need mobs around you to activate it and realize its full potential.
For what you intend to do, I think both are good enough. However if you team alot I'd suggest WS, if you want to solo at times a PB is better. Cause in solo mode the mobs arent big enough for a WS to buff himself up properly.
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I think you've highlighted the key difference between PBs and WSs. The former are self relient whilst the latter are mob dependent, and therfore you have your decision. How does either suit your playstyle - I prefer PBs because I like to reach my full potential regardless of the environment. If you don't mind being dependent on mobs then the WS is the only to go for as given the right conditions it will outperform the PB in terms of damage and healing - but *only* (afaik) if the conditions are right. How does, for example mire work versus a single AV compared to a PBs build up?
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How does, for example mire work versus a single AV compared to a PBs build up?
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In terms of recharge and DMG capacity on demand with mire vs a AV, even with double mire....
NOT very well!
I'd sooner trust my PBs buildup on an solo AV than Mire/Mire/Eclipse. At least I know im getting my DMG/ACC max ondemend, without the issue of missing
yup, if you want to fight/tank an AV as a WS, your best bet is to keep a mob (or multiple) near him alive so you can use those to fire mire and eclipse. When I done the 4th shard tf with nef I tanked malaise and mother mayhem with ease, however it required my team not killing the mobs around them before i buffed myself up.
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Yup
Short answer -
Peacebringers - more consistent
Warshades - have periods of less power, then bursts where they destroy everything in sight - although they tend to mature later than PBs - but getting to 38 with a tri-form Warshade and realising that you just got as close as you can come to God-mode is well worth the wait.
Me? I went WS - mainly because I like purple more than white
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yup..cant say im ever left waiting for eclipse to recharge tbh..its always ready by the time im at the next mob
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if u hadnt guessed im in favour of warshades..i quite like them
Take longer to shine than pbs but once they do..meh *deletes pb*
[quoteTake longer to shine than pbs but once they do..meh *deletes pb*
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been there, done that
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Hi All i'm trying to hit 50 so i can get a pb/ws, but i don't know which to choose.
I like to get stuck in with fighting, and enjoy taking on large crews, with this in mind what would you guys suggest that i choose.