DM - Is Midnight Grasp worth taking?
I took this and hated it so respec'd it out, but that was only because I prefer to have the aggro coming to keep fury high.
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It looks like a single target version of Tenebrous Tentacles which corrupters get at level 8?
Does anybody use this and find it worth while as I'm more inclined to ignore this and take hasten tbh.
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My experience of it is with a lvl 50 DM/Regen Scrapper, but even for Brutes its bound to be good. Its as quick as a hiccup and will out-damage Shadow Maul after all its DoT goes through.
The brute version has a much lower BI than the Scrapper one, I think it's only just higher than Shadow Maul. I'd say its worth taking though, cause hell, what else you gonna pick?
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I didn't think much of it, myself.
Hasten
Midnight Grasp has a million pounds to it's name comparing to hasten...
(It'll raise DPS more than Hasten)
OK i caved and took this power for my Brute. Is there a recomended way to slot to make the most of it?
Acc and Damage i'm guessing.
I'd go
acc, rchg, endred, dam, dam, dam
Which is pretty much how I slot all my brute attacks and the order I do it in
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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OK i caved and took this power for my Brute. Is there a recomended way to slot to make the most of it?
Acc and Damage i'm guessing.
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Slotting for Damage on Brutes is a waste of a slot, seeing as the base values are so low - Slot Acc, EndRed and Recharge before you slot Damage. At level 36, my EM/Fire Brute has precisely 0 Damage enhancements - he builds up Fury quickly and stays there until "Mission Complete!" sprays across the screen.
@Synaesthetix
"Here, take some more bees with you. You may need them."
Union: FU//LoUD
"that Syn is that that" - Mothers Love
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Slotting for Damage on Brutes is a waste of a slot, seeing as the base values are so low - Slot Acc, EndRed and Recharge before you slot Damage. At level 36, my EM/Fire Brute has precisely 0 Damage enhancements - he builds up Fury quickly and stays there until "Mission Complete!" sprays across the screen.
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I'd agree with most of this - except for my 2 big hitters (Total Focus/ET) I do put +3xDAM in place ... always nice to have a big orange number available to you at short notice.
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world
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OK i caved and took this power for my Brute. Is there a recomended way to slot to make the most of it?
Acc and Damage i'm guessing.
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Slotting for Damage on Brutes is a waste of a slot, seeing as the base values are so low - Slot Acc, EndRed and Recharge before you slot Damage. At level 36, my EM/Fire Brute has precisely 0 Damage enhancements - he builds up Fury quickly and stays there until "Mission Complete!" sprays across the screen.
[/ QUOTE ]Fury gives you... I'm not sure, either 250% or 350% damage boost when maxed, and brute damage cap is around 800%, those 100% you get from 3 damage enhancers are still useful even with full fury.
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OK i caved and took this power for my Brute. Is there a recomended way to slot to make the most of it?
Acc and Damage i'm guessing.
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Slotting for Damage on Brutes is a waste of a slot, seeing as the base values are so low - Slot Acc, EndRed and Recharge before you slot Damage. At level 36, my EM/Fire Brute has precisely 0 Damage enhancements - he builds up Fury quickly and stays there until "Mission Complete!" sprays across the screen.
[/ QUOTE ]Fury gives you... I'm not sure, either 250% or 350% damage boost when maxed, and brute damage cap is around 800%, those 100% you get from 3 damage enhancers are still useful even with full fury.
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The point is, can you keep going and maintain high fury continuously without End reducers in your attacks? If slotting for damage means you're getting 200%+ boost most of the time instead of 300%+ boost almost all the time then I'd go for EndRed.
Most Brutes I've teamed with seem to think they can only keep going at high Fury for limited periods then need to stop, rest, and set off again. The reality is you can keep going continuously without a pause as I've seen Syn do on missions. Dark Melee also has an extremely effective +End power.
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The point is, can you keep going and maintain high fury continuously without End reducers in your attacks?
[/ QUOTE ]1 ACC, 1/2 EndRdx, 0-1 RechRdx and 3 DMG, added in that order in all the attacks.
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The point is, can you keep going and maintain high fury continuously without End reducers in your attacks?
[/ QUOTE ]1 ACC, 1/2 EndRdx, 0-1 RechRdx and 3 DMG, added in that order in all the attacks.
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How often do you stop a mission? How many attacks do you cycle, and how many of those attacks are fillers whilst you wait for your big guns to recharge? Can you happily run Hasten on top of that?
@Synaesthetix
"Here, take some more bees with you. You may need them."
Union: FU//LoUD
"that Syn is that that" - Mothers Love
I dont stop
I cycle heavy hitters
I dont need hasten
I run 1acc, 1end red, 1 rchg in all attack, and 3 dam in my AoEs and high damage. I maintain full fury from AoEs agroing everything.
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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The point is, can you keep going and maintain high fury continuously without End reducers in your attacks?
[/ QUOTE ]1 ACC, 1/2 EndRdx, 0-1 RechRdx and 3 DMG, added in that order in all the attacks.
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How often do you stop a mission? How many attacks do you cycle, and how many of those attacks are fillers whilst you wait for your big guns to recharge? Can you happily run Hasten on top of that?
[/ QUOTE ]I don't stop, although I'll have to see if next toggle will change that. I cycle scorch, AS, cremate and incinerate, using BoF and FSC when appropriate. And yes, I run hasten on auto-fire with 3 recharge SO's.
get it, if u don't like it respec it out. Easy As Pie!
(M M M M M M M M M M M PIE!!!)
TBH i was pretty disappointed with midnight grasp when i got it, i never had a character builder to look at its DMG before playing it to 32 (it was my first char)
im not really a fan of dark melee its not very powerful, but 1 thing i do like in it is the accuracy debuffs they are the best secondary effect in any of the brute powersets cos when you get your attacks going in pvp/arena they are pretty good.
anyway i would stick with midnight grasp as it is the most powerful attack in the set
Your saying you were pretty disappointed with it but stick with it? Does it need 6 slotting before it becomes that good or does it just grow on you as being useful?
I got it at 32 as someone said earlir what else was i going to take and i find it very weak and keep forgetting i even have it. Approaching 33 hopefull tonight and am i recomended sticking all 3 valuable slots staright on it?
If so any advice an damage ,acc etc?
Looking forward to getting Opressive Gloom though no idea what it does just hear a lot of peeps talking about it
Cheers.
i meant, i expected more from the power and the power wasnt as good as i thought it would be but am still sticking with it
i would recommend 6 slotting it.
2dmg
1recharge
1acc
2endreduc
could possibly take a damage out for a immobilisation duration if you prefer
Okies. Have a hold on it just now with the one slot and recharge i thought would be useful. Might go for damage before end red as i reckon the damage output is not related to the brute it's self , as in higher fury = more damage for this power but is generated by the Damage SO's i'll be putting in to it?
I just got this power on Dark E, i am finding it very useful, as mobs running is the main problem (well at least for me) of any melee class, and it saves a lot of time when fighting those pesky mobs that run straight for the door while your trying to kill'em
It looks like a single target version of Tenebrous Tentacles which corrupters get at level 8?
Does anybody use this and find it worth while as I'm more inclined to ignore this and take hasten tbh.