Warburg


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Why does does no one go to Warburg anymore? I know there are plenty of +lvl 30 villains about. Is it because there is no bounty, that it is a free for all, or what?


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[...] that it is a free for all [...]

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That's one of the reasons I go to Siren's Call when wanting to PvP.


 

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That's one of the reasons I go to Siren's Call when wanting to PvP.

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Same, I like the whole heroes vs villains thing.

I do use Warburg occasionally, but only really if I want to fight heroes


 

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Warburg seems like a dead duck sadly, the map which is going for a dark and ruined feel doesnt help its cause at all, beats me why Devs always go this way, yeah they try to but atmosphere and feeling into it but the fact it light open spaces is what people want like the hero side of Sirens which is where most of the fighting occurs (and there is no jagged outcrop that you get stuck in and NPCd. The bounty system in Sirens is also a big thing, if nothing else then you are getting something back, the warburg nukes were not a bad idea but the missions are pretty tedious to be honest. The map also doesnt ahve any real natural fighting spots like Sirens does either (that I ahve seen) aside from right outside the respective bases.

As a free for all zone too its just plain flawed, you can fight Hero v Villain, Villain V Hero, Hero V Hero and Villain V Villain but you cant intermix the team. Seeing as heroes are now your enemy I cant see a reason why this should not possible.

Personally I would be happy for them to remove the whole zone and throw up another in the style of sirens with a bounty system


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You get less powers in Warburg, which can be a pain in the neck if your missing something really juicy.


 

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You get less powers in Warburg, which can be a pain in the neck if your missing something really juicy.

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As opposed to Siren's Call or Bloody Bay?


 

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warburg also has its own unique enemies in the arachnpids(unless anyone can prove me wrong) and is there as a story point of view as well(which only makes sense to those who have read "web of arachnos")


 

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Apart from Siren's on occasion, the PVP zones are all a bit bleh. Warburg is crawling with vicous NPCs around every corner, which A-OK from the story aspect but makes travelling a risky venture and combat too tight and confined for my liking. (I normally play a blaster, a Brute charges me, I fly away, I end up backing into a 20+ crowd of level 40 Titans. Erhm. UH-OH!)

The other main thing is a lot of people solely go there for temp powers and summons...completely ignoring anything else, since they are normally well above the level cap.


 

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I don't get it, although I do like the SOs from Sirens. the prestige gain in Warbug is excellent though, I sometimes solo in there to try and get some


 

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I was playing with a tank in Warburg a few nights back, and the missions give really nice xp as well. I wonder if you get a badge for filling the contact liason bar in Warburg for so many missions...


 

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Free for all kinda suck [censored], Hero vs Villain is what I want this game to be about. Why oh why should a hero ever kill another hero? ^^


 

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Free for all kinda suck [censored], Hero vs Villain is what I want this game to be about. Why oh why should a hero ever kill another hero? ^^

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Spilled his pint?


 

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Free for all kinda suck [censored], Hero vs Villain is what I want this game to be about. Why oh why should a hero ever kill another hero? ^^

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Spilled his pint?

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good enough reason for me


 

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Finding a better pair of shoes in Icon? :P

I think there could be one interesting switch here: if Warburg is a FFA zone, then surely Villains and Heroes should be able to team up?


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Finding a better pair of shoes in Icon? :P

I think there could be one interesting switch here: if Warburg is a FFA zone, then surely Villains and Heroes should be able to team up?

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I agree entirely, the current setup is a mish mash and poorly thought out imo


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i still think there should be a variety in PvP. Bloody bay Set up would be ideal for a capture the flag style pvp and Warburg or Sirens King of the hill. With the current powersets and amount of pvp cooperation that pvp requires the zones would fill up with fun very fast. Adding rewards like rank emotes according to reputation and possibly a league and ranking table would increase popularity of the zones.


 

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Back in CoV Beta, Bloody Bay was the free-for-all zone, probably so that there would be anyone actually engaging in PvP. At retail, BB became HvV and Warburg became FFA.

Thing was, they had a nice, solid reason why BB was FFA, the radiation from the meteor fragments made you a bit strange and you would attack your 'friends'.

The best excuse I've had for why Warburg is like that is "would you allow even other heroes access to nuclear weapons?" Which is, quite frankly, tripe. No, I wouldn't, as in, I'd get my hands on some launch codes and nuke the damn missile launcher! But we can't do that because it would scrap the purpose of the Zone, so we're stuck with an unused zone... well, except for people farming the PvE missions, which is real easy with no one there doing PvP.


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nuke the damn missile launcher

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From Orbit of course. Only way to be sure...

I'd guess that once Villains get to 40ish the mystery madness that makes you attack your fellow heroes will bugger off and Warburg will become a normal PvP zone.

The PvE missions are really handy for grinding. May grind a few tonight and finally hit 40, assuming my (frankly more fun) level 13 sapper doesn't interfere.


 

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couldn't agree more mate. Just now you are really just grinding for SOs (not complaing) or temp powers or whatever. Ranking would make it more fun and dare I s ay it, competative


 

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couldn't agree more mate. Just now you are really just grinding for SOs (not complaing) or temp powers or whatever. Ranking would make it more fun and dare I s ay it, competative

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Yes, I think ranking is the solution. It is for me at least :>


 

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couldn't agree more mate. Just now you are really just grinding for SOs (not complaing) or temp powers or whatever. Ranking would make it more fun and dare I s ay it, competative

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nah because it would just make certain other community members only think about there pvp ranking and to hell with the rules and general feeling making for very unhappy new players and community at large.
or something like that.


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nah because it would just make certain other community members only think about there pvp ranking and to hell with the rules and general feeling making for very unhappy new players and community at large.
or something like that.

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Actually it would make pvp more competitive and give people initiatives to enter the zone and pvp. The majority of the ones entering now the zones are there to farm and to get SO's which is at least pathetic. The truly pvp regulars have no initiatives to pvp other than their own enjoyment and certainly there is no potential to attract people in the zones to pvp. Other games have ranking systems and special rewards for being good at pvp that are non interfeering with pve part of the game such as special rank emotes and signature moves that give reasons to many non pvpers to enter the pvp zones and get addicted. Generalising about rules etc since currently there is no RoC i not think anyone knows any rules not even the devs themselves. So give us initiatives to truly pvp and dont let the pvp zones be farm areas for pve. PvP areas should be competitive to attract people as its in the human nature to compete and try excel. Right now they are just places where we randomly kill each other.


 

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nah because it would just make certain other community members only think about there pvp ranking and to hell with the rules and general feeling making for very unhappy new players and community at large.
or something like that.

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Actually it would make pvp more competitive and give people initiatives to enter the zone and pvp. The majority of the ones entering now the zones are there to farm and to get SO's which is at least pathetic. The truly pvp regulars have no initiatives to pvp other than their own enjoyment and certainly there is no potential to attract people in the zones to pvp. Other games have ranking systems and special rewards for being good at pvp that are non interfeering with pve part of the game such as special rank emotes and signature moves that give reasons to many non pvpers to enter the pvp zones and get addicted. Generalising about rules etc since currently there is no RoC i not think anyone knows any rules not even the devs themselves. So give us initiatives to truly pvp and dont let the pvp zones be farm areas for pve. PvP areas should be competitive to attract people as its in the human nature to compete and try excel. Right now they are just places where we randomly kill each other.

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I know I don't bother to go play for PvP ranking cause it dies down too quickly. I would still play PvE primarily even if PvP started making more sense. Second thing that puts me off is lack of players outside the peak hours. During peak hours I'm almost invariably playing PvE with my friends.


 

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anywho just to stay on topic i've been to warburg afew times and i think its an added twist it being a FFA
SC and BB are hero v villain and those zones are good for trying out your build against the opposing side where as Warburg is FFA so not only can you fight heroes but you get the opportunity to fight villains to.
Big question is will the higher level pvp zone be FFA ?


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Big question is will the higher level pvp zone be FFA ?

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I agree with this and hopefully the devs wont come up with an FFA for Recluse Victory but make it a faction conflict or world conflict of good against evil. High level pvp will be the bread and butter for pvping and if the devs take proper advantage of it they have the chance of creating something really good.