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"my MM pales in comparrison to Cynic's Dominators"
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But other dominators are better, and MMs arent that bad
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Hey that's unfair, my dominators are great, its not their fault their player sucks now is it? 
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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PS. Do you mean Psionic Dart and not Power Push Crystalwolf?
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LOL, no silly, Power Bolt is what I said, although your most likely correct that it's Psionic Dart, whichever the first one of the powerset is, that's the one I meant. 
Yeh I realised later what you said and couldn't be bothered changing it 
@Under Control
I love sea nymph my Plant/fire domi but I agree they seem to be the least common AT much like controlers in COH.
IMO I think they are a great AT as you get to control the field and least you can defend yourself if need be not like a controler.
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I love sea nymph my Plant/fire domi but I agree they seem to be the least common AT much like controlers in COH.
IMO I think they are a great AT as you get to control the field and least you can defend yourself if need be not like a controler.
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It's great to be controlling and take a little break in your schedule to two hit that stray minion who comes up and beats on you with bonesmasher+total focus.
They play differently from Controllers IMHO so there is a possibility that people who played controllers in COH tried them, and didn't like them. Where as those that couldn't get on with Controllers have avoided them, thinking they'd be like a controller
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
WH AHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I never expected my mass holds and sleep and cone of fear to be that effective!
I was putting masses of heroe's out of it last night in Siren's!
And it was SO much fun dropping them from the sky as I went past! 
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They play differently from Controllers IMHO so there is a possibility that people who played controllers in COH tried them, and didn't like them. Where as those that couldn't get on with Controllers have avoided them, thinking they'd be like a controller
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I been thinking that also.
I found out I couldn't play a controller, but give me an ice sword in my secondry and my scrapping side takes over, and hey, I aint so bad
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I really ought to make a secondary dom who focusses on melee over ranged (aug focusses on ranged with a pinch of melee). Any suggestions for a secondary?
And a primary, for that matter.
Ice and fire are good primaries for mellee, and also both good secondaries. Fire has the edge on damage, but ice has the lovely slows and a pet that helps you control too.
Mind/Fire is an awesome combination too.
Ice and fire both have aura's in primary, is why I use them.
Possibly Ice/Fire would be cool now I think about it. Arctic Air is a lovely aura for the squishy, and the fire mellee attacks rock
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I was on tonight and had a hard time getting a team. I had a mission I needed to complete so I went to solo it which took me a while due to tell hell and the like. also a big map full of scrapyarders with 4 bossses to get.
It just came to me how hard it can be to get a team and if I dont get a team thats when I dont play him and go on something else. Just an observation. Shame cos in a team he rules and I seem to get into the game easier too. Solo domming is a tad boring.
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They play differently from Controllers IMHO so there is a possibility that people who played controllers in COH tried them, and didn't like them. Where as those that couldn't get on with Controllers have avoided them, thinking they'd be like a controller
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Does that make me a first then? Although i must admit, I've not played mine in ages.
@Under Control
Not a first, but a possible exception *laughs* Is just my thoughts after talking to some people about dominators. People who have played controllers tell me they lack control. Which I guess is true, but for a few seconds they can have the ultimate control which makes up for it
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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People who have played controllers tell me they lack control.
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I think those people are thinking back to when they were lowbie controllers ... back in I3 or so. I find the amount of control dominators have just fine and almost (but not quite) up there with controllers. The damage is also fine in teams, although containment makes certain controllers very high damage builds. I think the difference is that we're now playing "city of solo artists". Teams were easier to find in COH ... which is where lowbie dominators (the only type I have) perform best.
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world
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I was on tonight and had a hard time getting a team. I had a mission I needed to complete so I went to solo it which took me a while due to tell hell and the like. also a big map full of scrapyarders with 4 bossses to get.
It just came to me how hard it can be to get a team and if I dont get a team thats when I dont play him and go on something else. Just an observation. Shame cos in a team he rules and I seem to get into the game easier too. Solo domming is a tad boring.
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I know the feeling, which is why i usually start sending out a Broadcast that I'm recruiting, + the lvl's, + that i'll take lackeys. O and i use the search and send tells and invite those that want too, usually it doesn't take long to get at least a few stragglers on and then not long after that a whole 8 player team.
I haven't been playing CoV for a while now though, trying to get to 50 with my hero for the War Shade. 
O and to the others, are you talking about Controllers Controllers? or Dominators?
'cause if your talking about Controllers (ggggk petuiy... ping) then go do it over in their thread!
Dominators are a great team-up for Stalkers. With all their holds, I can hide easily, and use assassin strike. Or at the very least, when being swamped, is able to let me get critical attacks on held or sleeping targets (cant remember which one, too busy slaughtering).
I think it very much depends on play style and chosen power sets. I have my Plant/Thorns up to level 16 (only occasional play, as my L30 MM, my L20 Brute, my L13 MM and my new L4 Corrupter all vie for attention), but I find her fun - especially if I'm teamed with a damaging AT such as a brute or a MM (or, surprisingly enough, a corrupter).
As a P/T dominator, I find Seeds of Confusion to be a _superb_ mass confuse - the accuracy is excellent, and it can really take care of the majority of mobs while the team pays attention to the boss. As it wears off, I can hold someone, immobilise the rest and still have endurance for throwing chains of thorn attacks into the fray.
The Dominator AT works for me...and I expect to push up to 40 with mine in due course
Brutes are about the best thing to team up with for attitude, cause fury and domination mean not resting too much.
Stalkers and corruptors are the best to team with tactically, one of each is superb. Dominator holds, stalker criticals, corruper scourges, rinse repeat.
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
My girlfriend surprised me yesterday. She made a plants controller. Sure, AT was dominator, but she didn't take any of the attacks from her energy pool!
It's actually kinda neat to think that you could reasonably focus on control at the cost of damage dealing abilities on a dominator. I wonder how close to a controller's control you could get one if you really tried.
In this case though, she did it because I made a stalker alt and told her I can crit held and slept critters.
Well, technically she isn't a controller in the CoH sense either because she lacks the buff/debuff secondary
Anyway, I think I would have a really tough time to get Domination up if I built my Ice/Ice like that, but Plant doms seem to be easier in that respect. Whenever I team with a plant dom I get jealous of how fast they get it up 
There's actually a great thread about controller/dominator hold times and mags on the US dominator forum (which is otherwise a horrible place where every long thread eventually derails into a flamewar on whether we are teh gimp). Anyway this one is worth a read, they're trying to make an analysis on control efficiency, factoring in controller criticals and domination "ideally used", meaning it's up as soon as it recharges.
Domination up as soon as it recharges? I have a lot of pretty tough cookie blasty and melee powers and I've basically -never- managed that. At least not after 20 and certainly not after 30. O_o
I think it depends a lot on the set. I don't think I could ever do it as Ice unless I become a blaster lite and slot my quick blasts with ridiculous amount of recharges.
Maybe they charge forward like brutes
Im sensing then like with trollers the mind control is not a popular primary?
I do like my dominator. And Im noticing there are alot of people who appreciate a good dom in a team. But yes few people play them. Beats me why but I reckon we will see a rise in them in a month or 2. We have to be careful when comparing them to a controller though. Id definately say my dom shines in a team and Im not enthusastic soloing with him. In the early days I give that a go too.
As for pets well my dom is a remake of my mind troller right down to costume. The only difference is the secondary which is psi blast. I find him much better as a dom than a mind troller if Im honest. I seem to get compliments while playing him too so Im getting the hang of something.