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Nope, which is a shame as it's possibly the best primary.
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Mind/energy here, currently lvl 14. At first I was little disappointed about the short hold durations and lack of damage (and missing build-up, power burst in early game etc 
) but Im starting to see things will change when I get properly enhanced up. Plus I just picked up telekinesis and finally have a power that at least feels like one a real dominator would use. TK makes me feel like Magneto! (regardless how useful it is in actual combat)
EDIT: note that Ive changed my mind (pun not intended) a little after my first post in this thread.
I can usually get domination up before it recharges on my ice/ice (basic attack chain Block of Ice -> Ice Bolt -> Ice Sword -> Brawl), however it seems to be harder to do on larger teams, perhaps because I am doing more aoe controlling and less blapping.
Mind control is unpopular because it doesn't get a pet I think.
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I wonder how close to a controller's control you could get one if you really tried.
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Well, given that dominators are only 65 % (I believe) as effective as a controller that's the best you're going to get. Even if you skip every attack and get only your primary ones you will still not hold/sleep/etc as well as a controller. Of course, that would open more room for Leadership / Healing power pools, and that can get you a tad more like a controller with their buffs/debuffs.
Ive only once had to wait for domination to recharge before I could use it. Also I love my Carrion Creepers as they can aggro while I start on holds.
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I wonder how close to a controller's control you could get one if you really tried.
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Well, given that dominators are only 65 % (I believe) as effective as a controller that's the best you're going to get. Even if you skip every attack and get only your primary ones you will still not hold/sleep/etc as well as a controller. Of course, that would open more room for Leadership / Healing power pools, and that can get you a tad more like a controller with their buffs/debuffs.
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Yeah, domination is immense when it gets going.. After I have used telekinesis I just refill my end bar with domination in addition to its other uses.
Besides, iirc the difference was 75% for dominators, and I understand it mainly affects hold duration? Imo hold duration is not end all, be all thing.. I also understand that dominators get more effectiveness out of their secondary than controllers. Not much, but little.
As for the pets, I don't understand why people would want pets that much. We can all play Masterminds if we want Mind is great imo. Most controllerish of the primaries. I was even planning to get invoke panic from pools just cause I want as much control as possible and I had good experiences with it playing my tank. 
ps. These forums are functioning somewhat randomly these days.. Gazillion "forum not found" messages..
Kind of a surprising thread.
First off, my main is a Corruptor and my VG is a little light on Dom's.
However, I think there are a lot more than there are Stalkers.
As for them being underpowered? No way. From playing my alt Dominator, I have to say that Domination is without a doubt, the most useful inherent power across all CoH/CoV AT's.
OK, they're very hard to solo but in team situations, A dom is worth it's weight in gold.
On another note, any Dom's out there looking for a VG on Union, add @Kinslayer as a global friend as we'd love to have more in the VG!
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However, I think there are a lot more than there are Stalkers.
[/ QUOTE ]Just do a /sea at any time and check the amounts of AT's, usually roughly 1/10 of online villains are dominators, there's more of ervery other AT.
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Mind control is unpopular because it doesn't get a pet I think.
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Not as much use for dominators, but with the addition of containment, mind controllers get very very useful indeed - if CoV hadn't come along I would be creating a mind troller about now... mind/energy melee dominator it is though ....
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Ah, teaming slowing down domination gain could be it for me. I never really solo. I guess if I were I'd be using more damage and thus probably raising domination faster.
Power boost is a godsend. Shame that it's so required though, since not every secondary has it.
I'm actually thinking of making a controllerish dominator now. It'd be fun, if you ask me. But then again, in CoH I made a scraptroller, so I guess I like using ATs for things they're not meant for. 
You tend not to see Stalkers about the place because they congregate in the PvP zones.
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You tend not to see Stalkers about the place because they congregate in the PvP zones.
I really should do something about this signature.
Yeah doms are fun to play and can make a good team into a great team. While I had some issues in the early 20's finding groups to xp in. Have to say since then, not had any such issue, once people get used to what a dom can do for a big group of people, you will often find you get invites to groups. Often before you finish loading the game.
As for pvp, well while we cant kill much ourselves, as an addition to a team we can be deadly.
On a sidenote: anyone think that /psi got the shaft ever so slightly? Our damage output is rubbish, the animations ridiciously long and the drain psyche power doesn't even slot for accuracy! 
Wish there was some way to convert my character to energy. Or fire. Or even ice!
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On a sidenote: anyone think that /psi got the shaft ever so slightly? Our damage output is rubbish, the animations ridiciously long and the drain psyche power doesn't even slot for accuracy! Wish there was some way to convert my character to energy. Or fire. Or even ice!
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I have to agree on the Drain Psyche.
No slotting for accuracy and unless it's a huge clustered group your lucky if you get one hit off of it!!!
Immensely useful power though.
I haven't really picked up any of the other psi powers so I can't comment on their effectiveness, I've been concentrating on my primary Mind set so far.
Psi is Known for its' long animations, the bonus being that very few of the enemies have psi resistance.
If they were to uber up psi, then you can most assuradly know that they will nerf it again soon after.
I DEFINATELY would like to be able to slot Drain Psyche with Accuracy though.
So far I haven't even bothered adding other slots and have it slotted with Recharge as that's really the only useful thing to slot it with.
But that's just me. 
By the way, I found out something very interesting in terms of domination gain. Much like brutes it doesn't matter how much damage your attack does, or even if it lands: any attack you fire off will gain you domination, and from what I gathered the same amount.
Though someone please correct me if I'm wrong this seems entirely accurate from my experience yesterday where I did nothing but fire off ice bolts unenhanced, and gained domination as quick if not quicker than my grav/enr which uses fully slotted, big damage attacks.
Of course if you're simply attacking normally I doubt you'd notice the difference, since it's slow to build up anyway and slow to go, unlike brutes. But still, this means you could make an effective dominator by taking no attack other than your quick low damage starting secondary.
Totally True.
Domination doesn't depend on you doing large amounts of damage, all you need to do is hit.
I'm unsure whether this accounts for the non damaging powers, but I know that the damage doesn't increase the domination bar, it's only the hit that does.
I believe it's written like that in the description as well, although I can't recall the description off hand right now.
Hmm, if I recall correctly the info on the power, says something like gaining pleasure from the damage she causes. Which would imply more damage == more domination. Kinda counter intuitive to the way it actually works.
No it's just attacks. This was the case when domnation was first added during beta. The only difference with brutes is it decays much more slowly and you get nothing for being attacked. I have Brawl on auto on my Blapper Dom.
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Nope, which is a shame as it's possibly the best primary.