Fire/Regeneration help please?


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Don't get caught up in a certain method though. Tailor your play style to the situation.
very good advice


 

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Don't get caught up in a certain method though. Tailor your play style to the situation.
I guess that is where the experience comes into play?

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MoG is sometimes best used offensively, like when fighting a player with a targeted heal.
I don't know what this means can you elaborate?


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Like /Dark corrs, for example. They have a tohit check, nothing should be hitting you during MoG, so if you crit and hes low on life and about to try and use a pb heal, hitting MoG will ruin his day, and you can go on to lulz.


 

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God this is pissing me off, I keep getting owned by ******* endurance draining enemies. I just got worked by an elec/elec brute and he drained my endurance bar. I tried using MoG to recover but it just didn't work, wtf? How are regenerators supposable unkillable? What do I keep doing wrong?
Are you fightclubbing or something? Jeez if you start running out of end hit MoG? Boosts recov and defense so he cant sap you more. And honestly? If you run out of end dont just let them stand there and sap you, unless your an idiot you will move around so he can't sap you until you recover some end. Like I said you will 99 percent of time never lose on a regen, and if you cant kill a enemy the LEAST you can do is tie them dont just let them kill you cause you can't outdamage them.

Oh, and thats what you get for fighting a FIRE brute with FIRE MELEE! Go FC someone that doesn't have 999999999 resist to your attacks maybe?


 

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Are you fightclubbing or something? Jeez if you start running out of end hit MoG? Boosts recov and defense so he cant sap you more. And honestly? If you run out of end dont just let them stand there and sap you, unless your an idiot you will move around so he can't sap you until you recover some end. Like I said you will 99 percent of time never lose on a regen, and if you cant kill a enemy the LEAST you can do is tie them dont just let them kill you cause you can't outdamage them.

Oh, and thats what you get for fighting a FIRE brute with FIRE MELEE! Go FC someone that doesn't have 999999999 resist to your attacks maybe?
Yes I am dueling them, I usually don't use inspirations or move much. Is against dueling rules to move around, are there dueling rules at all lol?


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Well if you want some really sound advice. Two things.

Use Inspirations, all the time.
Keep Moving.


 

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Okay next question when dealing with slow type enemies how do you compensate for that? If you're stuck on an ice patch or some large aoe slow for an example? Will phasing help with that or are you just sol?


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Okay next question when dealing with slow type enemies how do you compensate for that? If you're stuck on an ice patch or some large aoe slow for an example? Will phasing help with that or are you just sol?

Do you not have superspeed? how do any of these things even do anything to you?
jump over them if they bother you that much.

Slows were gutted with pvp 2.0 they got shat on and the only real slow I can think of are toggle debuffs and only cause they cause perma travel suppresion.

Anything else?

P.S. don't get sucked into lolfiteclub it really is the lowest of skill pvp wise


 

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If you are the fire/regen i dueled today on my kohav after your fiteklub duel in the train then gosh your DMG is pretty aweful for a fire.. you got wrekd.


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I can't wait until I get to pvp in freedom with my energy/pain! all this talk is gettin me excited..

also hope this thread dont get locked


 

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Two things. One seeing you quoted him earlier you obviously know how to read what he is saying still. Secondly, even though he is a dick try listening to him. It would help you get better.
Okay carry inspirations and what else positive has he said? Nothing else lol

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Do you not have superspeed? how do any of these things even do anything to you?
jump over them if they bother you that much.

Slows were gutted with pvp 2.0 they got shat on and the only real slow I can think of are toggle debuffs and only cause they cause perma travel suppresion.

Anything else?

P.S. don't get sucked into lolfiteclub it really is the lowest of skill pvp wise
Okay dealing with toggle debuffs, what is a good way to work passed those? I don't know much about PvP and the levels pertaining to it so I have no clue what is good or bad.


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I can't wait until I get to pvp in freedom with my energy/pain! all this talk is gettin me excited..

also hope this thread dont get locked
Me too I need as much help as I can get lol


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Okay carry inspirations and what else positive has he said? Nothing else lol



Okay dealing with toggle debuffs, what is a good way to work passed those? I don't know much about PvP and the levels pertaining to it so I have no clue what is good or bad.
Toggles debuffs there's really 3 ways to deal with them

1.Throw a hold/stun at the person who has the toggle debuff and it'll drop
2.Phase
3.Kill them


 

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Hello! Positivity here to weigh in.

Barrier has some very constructive advice, but he presents them in an easily misinterpreted for negative format.

Please try to read between the lines and look at it in the light.


 

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Okay I don't get it, can someone show me how a proper Fire/Regeneration is supposed to be played? I'm getting worked!


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I don't get what everyones hard on is for fire melee I think spines is 100% better with the procs that can be slotted to the range how can anyone even prefer fire melee over spines.


 

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Because it does more damage. Spines is pretty much only decent at ksing in zones anymore. Yeah the range is nice but it doesn't make up for the really lackluster damage. And procs can only help so much.


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I dueled you yesterday in the arena on my lolkatana/regin (Kohav) and tbh you dont listen to a word I tell you, I may be bad, but I know what i'm talking about most the times. I lol'd so hard when I saw you pop like 1 purple... wtf I told you to pack yellow (you said you can't hit through double stacked DA.. I dno how thats possible) insps and greens, and maybe a red or 2 for burst damage, but you wouldn't listen instead you got worked 5-1 by my kat/regen.. which should NEVER happen. fire>kat at any surcumstances, also you where so determined to stand and fight, i've never seen a good regen just stand there, you need time to get your heal back? move around, jump run IDC as long as im not hitting you and you're buying yourself time to get your recon/DP up.

Also your timing is so far off I lol'd... At one point I actually saw what barrier was saying about regin=downies. You hit DP when you were at like quarter health, the list goes on, first make sure you bring the right insps to the duel, i'm on later on in the day and i'd be willing to rematch you i really really am not that hard to kill... At all.

just remember: ALWAYS move around, USE insps to YOUR advantage.


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Thank you for the advice Soul. I should clarify, the build that I currently use cannot hit through double stacked parry without inspirations.


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Thank you for the advice Soul. I should clarify, the build that I currently use cannot hit through double stacked parry without inspirations.
do you have FA or Tactics? if not, you're building your toon wrong. Them alone + some acc you get from sets + enough acc slotted into attacks should deffinetely get through double stacked DA.


@Psycho Jas

 

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ALSO I saw you have phase shift in your build WHY on EARTH did you NOT use it?


@Psycho Jas

 

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ALSO I saw you have phase shift in your build WHY on EARTH did you NOT use it?
my fan has a point.

i was wailing on you with my sonic/cold in RV and i was sure you had your phase up. gotta be a bit more swift and tactical using that.


 

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my fan has a point.

i was wailing on you with my sonic/cold in RV and i was sure you had your phase up. gotta be a bit more swift and tactical using that.
it goes against the rules of virchu fc.


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do you have FA or Tactics? if not, you're building your toon wrong. Them alone + some acc you get from sets + enough acc slotted into attacks should deffinetely get through double stacked DA.
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ALSO I saw you have phase shift in your build WHY on EARTH did you NOT use it?
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my fan has a point.

i was wailing on you with my sonic/cold in RV and i was sure you had your phase up. gotta be a bit more swift and tactical using that.
I'm all very very new to real PvPing so what its pretty much anything goes unless otherwise specified.?


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