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Quote:yeah dude what was he thinking? geesh some people just have no forum ethics.Originally Posted by Shadowclone
Dude...when one thread gets locked you dont go out and make another thread about the same thing... -
Quote:Yes. What? What don't you understand? No it didn't. Either one, assault is bad. No. Maybe. Duh.Originally Posted by Feugan
seeing as PvP is meant to be waiii different now, should it even matter how long they've played pre13?... Does it really get you off being such a tool? i mean come on... your opinion remains meaningless? I think one of the posts made a good point.. I'm thinking of smaller fights whilst others are thinking large KB... If you don't see how Assault is better for taking for 1v1's, 2v2s etc... then, your just arguing for the sake of arguing.. nice forumpvp skillz..
As mention several times in this thread now, Manuevers is useless on most builds.. +7.5 rech added to a blaster with base rech up in the 60-70's is going to do crap all. The only thing it would be useful for is as u said u add a kb IO, and try to find a space for another one.
as to my neck being long.. were u looking to borrow some?
As mentioned by the same person or two people that both have no idea what they're talking about maneuvers is useless, yes. Yeah I hear assault is really good for adding that extra kick to your blaze that brings it up a whopping 4 points of damage. cool. -
Quote:no kid you don't know what you're talking about also. Congratulations, a whole 3 issue pvp vet (figure out why I say 3), did you get a badge? I don't care what you have or what you've changed, your opinion remains meaningless. maneuvers>assault, get over it and get yourself a coke. no offense, i hope you don't mind me asking, but is your neck long?Originally Posted by Feugan
Because I also know what I'm talking about?... err, been PvPing since i10... I currently have an arch/em, sonic/em, psy/em, fire/em, rad/em, fire/mm all slotted out... I must have made a total of 50 blaster builds since I started with all the damn changes... And simply because my opinion is against what.. 3 other people have said makes it not count? People cry about the placate proc heaps, yet with assault running it merely makes u lose target, u can get it back up the next second with barely a pause in attack... Then theres taunt resistance too... until someone gives a proper reason why maneuvers tops that then I'm going to argue the point.
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And for the record, I'd rather have Diminishing Returns on critter XP, recharge suppression (basically double all recharges), and Health decay (approx. 100hp from your max each minute you're in a mission).
These changes would make for a more challenging PvE environment. -
Quote:If anything you lost your credibility because you really just wasted your time looking it up when it was obvious.Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
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From this thread:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...75#post2437575
Multiple people have lost credibility as far as I'm concerned.
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Quote:I was with you until you said you understood travel suppression, and your reasoning behind it. I would've sped fly up instead of slowing everything else down, but hey I guess that'd require having a brain.Originally Posted by Obsidius
My biggest problem testing I13 was the lack of bridging between PvE and PvP. I was a fan of making PvP more casual, but the new system all but gutted holds and stuns. I was surprised when holds barely had any affect. The devs changed it to be 4 seconds... and that's about it. Heck, I could take everything else if it hadn't been for holds. As it was wholesale, most of the changes where for the concession of the PvE crowd, with very little concession to the PvP crowd. That's not so much of a bridge as it is the "occupation of Poland" (not to use Godwin's Law).
I'll support anything that blends the two together within certain constraints. Hell, it worked fine for DAoC. For example, I understand travel suppression, as loathe as it is, to balance SS and SJ with things like Fly. OTOH, the aforementioned pitiful Hold durations, Heal Decay, and other PvP-only systems need some serious reconsideration. Right now the system's not so much Rock-Paper-Scissors as much as it is Rock-Bigger Rock. -
Everyone that knows what they're talking about has said manuevers, why are you still trying to argue a point?
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I agree with the OP, there isn't enough challenge in PvE.
Please add DR, TS, and Heal decay to PvE.
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Quote:No! The devs just want what's best for the game!Originally Posted by macskull
Here's an amusing social experiment: go into the suggestions and ideas forum and start a thread about how the game could stand to use some rebalancing to bring certain "problem" builds in line, as everyone knows there are certain powerset combinations that are way better than others. In this thread, you'd list off the changes made to PvP in I13, but reword them and apply them to PvE so it's not immediately obvious. Make the post, and then watch the uproar as people would say "wow, if they did that, I'd quit the game." The devs knew this when I13 happened, yet they also knew that the existing PvP playerbase was so small as to be completely expendable so they had absolutely no qualm with making all those changes. Now, the PvP playerbase is even smaller, which makes me wonder if they're thinking to themselves "well, it can't get much worse, let's throw some more changes at them and see what happens," or if they're saying "hm, we should fix this."
You hit the nail on the head, good sir.
They gave you PvPers the PvP IOs that you can't get in PvE so why complain? -
Quote:Tip: Don't type "forev0r", it may seem cool at the time, but you come off looking like a ******.Originally Posted by SoulTouch
Ima be re rolling my elec/therm corr I deleted a few months ago - I'm dead clueless on how to build her.. mainly cas i get wrekd when i attempt building a corruptor for pvp so any builds out there, tips on how to play her? shes gonna be living in RV forev0r yo and I wanna be able to kill stuff solo with her too. ^^
thanks in advance.
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Quote:I'm gonna remain positive, even after your negativity provoking posts.Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
And this is, again, supposed to attract more PvPers how?
So, since I prefer to interact with ration, intelligent humans, try and bring forth examples that apparently have superfluous information and state my opinion, that makes me a target for MORE insults. Interesting.
Have fun with your attempts at increasing the PvP population. Good luck, you will need it.
Tip: Don't fight with barrier unless you know what you're talking about because you simply just won't win.
PS you don't know what you're talking about. -
Quote:lol? who is this?Originally Posted by SonicBang
yea ....damage dont get DR'd. If you have 41 points of KB protection, take assault. If you dont have 41 points but CAN get it by moving slots, take assault. Assault is good, and damage bonuses don't get DR until they get way higher up, yes the 11 percent does help.
I didn't even look at the build but if you can get 41 points of KB protection without taking maneuvers, (which most builds are able to do, especially if you use kinetic crash in power thrust), assault is sexy.
Don't let him troll you, OP. -
The extra KB and LoTG over extra damage % that doesn't really add much, especially with DR.
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My build is a bit different, but to each their own.
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Hello! Positivity here to weigh in.
Barrier has some very constructive advice, but he presents them in an easily misinterpreted for negative format.
Please try to read between the lines and look at it in the light. -
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Quote:My CO sub runs out on Jan. 6, but I'm not resubbing until they have some sort of way to have pre-set matches. Only thing you can do now is random 5v5s. There apparently are plans to allow teams to fight anywhere in the open world. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, easier to spectate and you don't have to go through a load, I guess.Originally Posted by macskull
Travel suppression and heal decay (and more aggravatingly, travel suppression attached to healing) mean that when I phase, if my team isn't around to get my pursuers off me, I'm going all the way back to my base because it's the only way I'm not going to die. It sucks and I hate doing it, but them's the breaks.
On CO: CO's PvP system has the potential to be quite a bit better than our current PvP system. I thought it was fun when I tried it during beta, but I didn't bother to sub right away at launch. However, it's still early in that game's lifespan and the "balance" hammer is swingin' away at everything it can hit - the changes to powers and mechanics in CO right now remind me of Issues 4-6 here, but once that initial balancing stage is done, things could be decent. If the devs' attention to PvP during Going Rogue turns into "I13 2.0," I'll more than likely give CO a try. -
Fire, Psi, and Sonic are all viable options, but if you're looking to stun I suggest Sonic.
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Quote:Okay, haha.Originally Posted by black_barrier
ok then next time i'll say a CoH 50, because back then, it would have taken me 5 hours to get to 50 in CoX, while i played about 70 hours of CO lolpve.
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Quote:hmm, that's still off, but okay.Originally Posted by black_barrier
i was making a CoH comparison in accordance to time spent playing.
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Quote:Nah they stopped doing this a while ago.Originally Posted by black_barrier
remember how you felt when they nerfed your ice/cold in i13?
CO is like if you leveled your toon all the way to 35 with all PVE, and then the devs nerf your ice blast, but then about two days later after you used your respec, the devs decided to nerf your /cold secondary even more.
OK so you reroll.
You rerolled a toon into a fire/fire, got it to 35 and 2 weeks after, the same cycle repeated itself.
Three times in a row.
Screw CO.
And barrier you never even got to 35, more like 20 tops and that takes a day.
And why would you reroll? They give a full free respec like every week they screw something up.
I'd enjoy playing CO if they had an actual arena system, the random mess they have now is so beta.