well skip the regen, its so like 2004, and its been nerfed 2004 times incidentally.
fire/sd - aoe damage machine
martial arts/willpower - chuck norris (costume requires a beard)
pistol/willpower - charles bronson (not in the game til going rogue, but 1 shots everything in the head)
just come up with a really good idea, honestly i think fire/sd sounds sick
lol
I agree that Fire/SD would be good but I'm not sure I want to lvl another Shield atm. I've never leveled a /Regen past the mid 20's so that's why I was thinking of making one and sticking with it. I was at one point making a Fire/SD for a theme but I haven't done it yet.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I'd say to avoid fire, I've tried a pure offense primary with regen and it gets a bit frustrating. Healing is great but without some kinda way to soften, make the blows hit less, it just becomes tedious.
Dark: the to hit debuff will be great with regenertaion, also drain life can help out when the spike heals are recharging as well. one of the better choices.
MA: could work with it's mitigation, though I think it probably could be better.
I have a fire/regen and a MA/regen at 50.
The MA/Regen hit 50 back before IOs were introduced, but I remember her being great then. With IOs now, she'd be even better. MA isn't the best damage, but with all the KB and KD and stuns, well, you don't need to kill things as fast when they're dazed and/or on their backs.
The fire/regen is a beast and tears through mobs like tissue paper. But, like all* regens, she's got a glass jaw, and nothing in her primary to help her out there, unlike the mitigation provided by the secondary effects of MA. I can farm level 53 reviving lieuts with the fire/regen though, so it's not like she's weak.
Any of that help? I think they're both great characters, it's just a matter of what style you want to play. MA is a more drawn out fight, but you have all the control. FM is a quick fight, but it's just chaos with lots of orange (and red) numbers flying.
As for DM, no clue there. Never got a DM higher than level 10.
*all in this case refers to the "typical" regen, not the IO'd out the wazoo variety.
@Johnstone & @Johnstone 2
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I'll vote for DM/REG out of your options, because you can then try out this build for me (totally concept, with the idea of being able to go MG -> SM -> SL -> SM -> Repeat, forever.
Actually still working on the build and am lvling it (very slowly) so workin on the IOs for it slowly as well...but here it is for an idea).
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BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
DM/regen. You'll have fun fun fun on a non stop slug fest. Even more so now that siphon life is a good attack instead of just a target heal.
"All problems can be solved by throwing enough scrappers at it."
@Riez on Virtue, Protector, Champion, and Exalted server.
I have experience with DM since I have a Dark/Fire brute and a SD/DM tank at 50 so I know DM is good. 
I rolled the Fire/SD this morning and will get around to playing it soon. Now I think I have to roll several scrappers now...
I'll probably roll the DM/Regen but now the question is, what is a good secondary to go with Martial Arts?
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I'd go with Martial Arts. Quick Recovery handles its relatively high end costs, and the stuns (Cobra Strike, Eagle's Claw and a chance in Storm Kick) can give you time to clicky yourself up. Plus the animations are just too much fun to look at =P
The cons, it's all smashing damage. Dark and Fire both have little resisted damage components. The -To-hit in Dark is excellent for Regen. Avoid Fire, it doesn't expound on Regen at all.
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I'd go with Martial Arts. Quick Recovery handles its relatively high end costs, and the stuns (Cobra Strike, Eagle's Claw and a chance in Storm Kick)
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Thunder Kick has the chance to stun (and it's low). Storm Kick has to settle for oodles of damage per animation second and an extra crit chance.
If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog
Claws/Regen - sure it's cliched, but its a heck of a lot of fun, its very quick, with lots of damage, with a great balance of AoE and single target (my first 50 was claws/regen)
Regen is also well complimented by the Parry of Broadsword or Katana (and QR goes well with BS too)
Oh heck on second thoughts, they're all good, so just roll em all.
I'd say ma/regen. No weapon redraw from healin, dragon's tail is nice mitigation. eagle's claw will mez lts, and can stack with cobra strike, which i think is a worthles power anyway.
My first was ma/sr, next was claws/regen. I kinda wish I could switch primaries sometimes as I wouldn't have redraw on the claws/sr cept for poppin PB.
Martial Arts is just super fun, and it blooms pretty early, as does regen. At lvl 10 or 12 you can have 3 good attacks, fast healin and QR with recon as well.
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Claws/Regen - sure it's cliched, but its a heck of a lot of fun, its very quick, with lots of damage, with a great balance of AoE and single target (my first 50 was claws/regen)
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My first 50 was claws/regen as well, my namesake in fact.
At his current level of IOed-ness (I think I just made a new word 
) he only has two states: completely unkillable, and laying on the floor. Regen is very binary from what I've experienced, you will either cruise through missions with ease, or you will drop every time you turn around, usually due to player error.
Of the 3 choices you presented, I would go with Fire or DM.
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now the question is, what is a good secondary to go with Martial Arts?
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Hmm... You said you didn't want a /SD right now. You plan on a DM/regen, maybe. Hmm... I'd say MA/FA. The stuns and knockdown effects will help keep you standing and keep them in burn a little longer. (Hmm... I think ill go make a AE mish with an AV with MA/fire manipulation set. Burn, blazing aura, and hot feet combined with all them kicks would piss a lot of people off *evil laugh*)
"All problems can be solved by throwing enough scrappers at it."
@Riez on Virtue, Protector, Champion, and Exalted server.
I made a MA/Regen and after sewers, scanner mishs for temps and a Posi, he's 17. Surprisingly, I am really enjoying the toon and the two sets mesh well together. I was leveling a controller but I just might have to level this one first.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Instead of making a new thread I figured I'd just post a build idea for my scrapper here. Any thoughts on how to improve this toon? I'm having a hard time balancing def while squeezing out as much +rech as possible. Money is no object since I can already have everything except for the hecatombs and 2 lotg procs.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hectmb-Dam%(5)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Mrcl-Rcvry+(27), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(43)
Level 2: Thunder Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dam%(19), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(21), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(21), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(15), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(33)
Level 6: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(9)
Level 8: Crane Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dam%(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(33), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(13), Dct'dW-Rchg(13)
Level 12: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(17), Zephyr-ResKB(17)
Level 18: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 20: Crippling Axe Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(36), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(43), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), T'Death-Dam%(50)
Level 22: Integration -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(40), Numna-Heal(42)
Level 24: Focus Chi -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Dragon's Tail -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Rchg(31)
Level 30: Boxing -- Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 32: Eagles Claw -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(37), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(37), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), T'Death-Dam%(40)
Level 35: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Build%(46)
Level 47: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Empty(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Wow! o.O A bump from 19th? xP
It's better than me making a whole new thread that asks only one question.
This is nothing, I've necro'd MUCH MUCH older threads before. This one was just barely collecting dust.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I've been pondering rolling another scrapper and I'm stuck on making it a /Regen. The only thing I can't figure out is the primary since I'm stuck between Fire/, Dark/ or Martial Arts/.
Fire/:
I know it doesn't add any survivability but it does have the dmg output so it may be a little riskier playing this combo.
Dark/:
It has the ST dmg plus tohit debuff and on top of it all another heal. DC does seem a little redundant but extra end is always nice. Soul Drain is an awsome power so that's a plus but I've already lvl'd a SD/DM tanker so I'm sorta reluctant to lvl another DM right now.
MA/:
I've never leveled one past lvl10 so I can't say but it does look interesting. It's got pretty good dmg plus mitigation.
So what are some other pro's/con's/suggestions that would help me make a decision?
Also don't suggest I roll all 3, I've got enough alts I need to lvl.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE