Likely too much upkeep for the returned investment, but CoH has gotten to where I will go through random stages of having a very slight choppiness and this wasn't there "x" amount of issues ago. I can't recall what issue it started, but it hasn't gone away. With graphic upgrades coming of some degree, yeah, I'm not exactly jumping for joy.
A new server wouldn't help (afaik, they still make efforts to keep the game 56k friendly... even though dial up should simply be KILLED), you'd need a different client/engine.
If care is taken when doing the (rumored) graphics overhaul, they should be able to design it in a way to gracefully downgrade on lower end machine (either automatically or via options). Whether it'll pan out or not would be a different question... but still.
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Is "Safe Mode" still an option?
There was a time when I had to play that way, until I upgraded my RAM.
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This isn't really true. My wife plays on a year-and-a-half old dell that she paid about $700 for and does just fine. She's not on minimum graphics settings either (somewhere in the middle).
yes, safe mode is still available AFAIK...
however, I Don't think any of the netbooks have enough processor power to handle the game, and I don't see a reason for the game to cater to such a small population.
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I think you underestimate our fools, sir.
Why /duel is a bad idea
Besides netbooks are meant to just use the web and little else. They're not meant to play fully-fledged games on, and anyone who buys a netbook expecting to do so is a moron.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Actually I can play somewhat on my netbook (Asus 1000HA). The small screen resolution actually causes me more problems than the processor or the lack of a video card does.
I'm not speaking about 'netbooks', I mean actual notebooks.
Talking with a few of the Best Buy guys, they told me that many on the entry level (at that time) laptops were decent for some gaming but there were a few games (including CoX) that weren't friendly to the integrated graphics card setup. The laptops that they suggested for gaming (at that time) were over $1K brand new.
My 2 year old $700 DuoCore Gateway does great with Sony Vegas and other vid/audio editing software but couldn't handle any gaming I put into it.
And from the chatter I used to see floating around, I wasn't the only one having these problems.
Granted, my system may be akin to one of the $600 models now available but it definitely isn't one of those $300 netbooks.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
The problem with entry level notebooks is that the OEMs purposely put absolutely [censored] integrated graphics in them. And I don't mean "bad", I mean absolutely HORRID.
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I'm not speaking about 'netbooks', I mean actual notebooks.
Talking with a few of the Best Buy guys, they told me that many on the entry level (at that time) laptops were decent for some gaming but there were a few games (including CoX) that weren't friendly to the integrated graphics card setup. The laptops that they suggested for gaming (at that time) were over $1K brand new.
My 2 year old $700 DuoCore Gateway does great with Sony Vegas and other vid/audio editing software but couldn't handle any gaming I put into it.
And from the chatter I used to see floating around, I wasn't the only one having these problems.
Granted, my system may be akin to one of the $600 models now available but it definitely isn't one of those $300 netbooks.
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Ah, there's the difference, my wife's laptop has a real graphics card.
*nod*
I'm seeing $800-$1k notebooks with real graphics cards as opposed to integrated these days. Been somewhat tempted, too.
Maybe once Win7 comes out. (Though it'll have to be a bit more than $1k. And I'll spend a few hours ripping preinstalled junk out, I know.) Already have two desktops...
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I'm seeing $800-$1k notebooks with real graphics cards as opposed to integrated these days. Been somewhat tempted, too.
Maybe once Win7 comes out. (Though it'll have to be a bit more than $1k. And I'll spend a few hours ripping preinstalled junk out, I know.) Already have two desktops...
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no need to wait if Win7 is your biggest concern, everyone who buys a computer starting a couple weeks ago gets a free upgrade.
of course, you have to deal with vista until the end of October, but still.
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I think you underestimate our fools, sir.
Why /duel is a bad idea
So don't buy a cheap laptop expecting to game with it. Laptops are always more expensive than the equivalent PC, and get more expensive the more power you try to put into it.
So either accept that limitation or build a desktop to save money and still get power.
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So don't buy a cheap laptop expecting to game with it. Laptops are always more expensive than the equivalent PC, and get more expensive the more power you try to put into it.
So either accept that limitation or build a desktop to save money and still get power.
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I bought the laptop to add mobility to my computing... gaming is a small percentage of that equation. I do have the desktop... but that's really not the point and laptops aren't the only issue being addressed.
The point being that the game may be outpacing some aspect of the potential playerbase's setups; the connection type, the vid card, processor, etc.; while the solution could be something that lowered how taxing the demands of the game would be enough to make it viable for the podding/cell crowd.
I think it would go a long way in retaining and attracting players.
This really isn't a personal gripe, being that any upgrade that CoX pushes my system into needing is probably going to be an upgrade that improves the performance of my other non-game video progs.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
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What? Doesn't EVERYONE run dual 3Ghz Quad Core Xeons with 32GB of RAM on a 15-device RAID0 array of SSDs and Quad SLI on a 30" monitor at 2560x1600?
Seriously though. You can build a box that'll SCREAM on CoX now for about $590 (sans monitor) shipped.
Granted, if you're REALLY cash-strapped, this is no consolation. Still, with modern equipment, flying on CoX is NOT a truly expensive proposition.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
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Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
Just wanted to mention that CoH on dialup was "problematic" since maybe CoV went live. I had a friend who finally had to get my help with a mission because he'd get most of the way through and then get mapserved on the last room. It happened to him about six times in a row.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
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I can play CoH on a $750 toshiba satellite built 4 years ago. I dual boxed on it once. CoH can still work on older machines.
I build my own PC's and dont usually spend more than $500 and end up with what would be considered 'mid-range' machines. They have to play CoX or I wouldnt have them in the house. The problem with alot of people's tech issues usually comes down to how well maintained their machines are.
And Dial Up is beyond outdated anymore. Heck, in my city they are putting up wireless Internet access available to the general public but you have to deal with advertising and get a basic setup through the local phone company (which anyone with a home phone already has). It may not be true HSI, but I tried it and it worked. It isnt made for gaming though.
No game can be all things to all people.
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my laptop costed 1200 bucks a year and a half ago, and i can run 5 accounts at once max graphics no lag unless i try and pvp with 5 accounts at once which any number over 2 is just silly. i notice in pve environments once i try to log a 6th account on then things get a little more choppy.
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lol, cool game
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
Even if this isn't an appealing or competitive enough idea to implement...
...can the System Requirements be verified so that both the Minimum and Recommended SRs can be updated if needed?
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
It seems as CoX continues to advance, the hardware and connection requirements ramp up.
We've pretty much have made dial-up extinct, with DSL, wireless and even Cable connections starting to groan under new pressures.
Laptops aren't really a viable option unless you're shelling out $1500 or more. Given the current trend of affordable entry level notebook comps being pushed out at a fairly good clip; there's a large potential market of on-the-go gamers that are pretty much being left in the dust by the CoX advance.
The abundance of 'e-machines' that dominate user homes; sure, they can be upgraded but wouldn't it be grand if more players picked up the game because the minimum system requirements were more inclusive to what they already have 'norm packaged' in their machines?
The emerging mobile market could always use a social builder like a MMORPG; like CoX.
Is there a possibility of creating a CoX Lite server or even a stand-alone to accommodate these needs. The graphics wouldn't need to be as detailed. Toggle power graphics could be minimalized. etc...
Opinions?
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars