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I'm guessing 'lighter' = less effective.
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Yeah.
Although the only reason why that seems that way is because Controllers use their controls more than Dominators since they lack any attacks outside of APPs.
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Actually, no; Dominators DO have weaker controls ( out of Domination ) than Controllers. Controllers have an accuracy bonus with them, and they last longer.
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The accuracy of the controller sets is identical to the accuracy of the dominator sets, barring buffs/debuffs from the controller *secondary*.
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Im curious as to why people belive Controllers solo slowly.Controllers iv made roll over maps,and have even tanked Invinsible Missions ment for a 8 man team and destroyed the mobs by them selves at a alarming rate.(My Plant/Rad Controller was a beast!)
I like Dominators,and i like only certain types of Controllers.
Id say becuase i come from a long list of games to where "Self Heals" are important,id have to say in favor of Controllers.
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I drew this particular comparison because the primaries are functionally the same.
It seemed that prior to the changes; Controllers had better control and a more consistent higher damage output from their primaries.
What I am trying to jive is what secondary type people are more enticed by.
Right now, I'm trying a Plant/ on both /Kin Troller and a /Fire Dom.
My Dom is great, her primary chain is well supplemented by her secondary chain and mobs are getting slaughtered even without fancy slotting. But the vibe is that solo is her strong point... teaming may require her to tone down her game plan and let others take on the bigger spawns (at least until Domination comes up)
My Troller is great; she gets well rewarded for locking things down and she does it well and I don't find myself stressing my survivability as much. I don't mind playing her solo but she seems geared to being a solid anchor for any team. I don't feel like I'm taking a backseat on teams when I play her.
With the new Dom damage mods, I'm liking them more than their Controllers brethren; especially solo... and only consider Trollers when using /Kin or /Rad.
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Controllers mature late, but are still by far the most powerful AT in the game.
Once you have fulcrum + app aoe blast you'll kill groups as fast as a plant/fire (depending on how creepers work now and if you slot roots, potentially much faster), be more durable, be more useful against AV's, and buff entire teams into the stratosphere.
The sad thing is that because dom assault sets follow a very late loaded design (akin to tankers, rather then defenders) they don't get all that powerful until late in the game too. They get powerful sooner, but end up far less powerful than trollers.
A plant/x/fire troller feels more like a fire wielder than a plant/fire to me because fireball is such a key power that just screams "fire!!!" to me. You also get to light yourself on fire, which unfortunately a dom can't do (major conceptual knock against fire/fire doms compared to fire/thermal/fire as they lack a fire ppp)
Instead of this "Controllers vs Doms" thing, why not just invite both?
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Instead of this "Controllers vs Doms" thing, why not just invite both?
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And kick the aura rocking empath defender? please.
The better question is why invite any other AT then these 2??? hehehe 4 doms & 4 trollers on a team!!! Who needs anything else?
Muwhahahhaahaha
I'd bring a couple Fortunata Widows for the team buffs.
Ive been heavy Dom/Controller teams on the LGTF and the ITF..and honestly...u don't need anything else. It bordered on the ridiculous how much control, debuffing, and damage a couple of controllers and doms can put it out.
Hmmm..maybe we have an idea for out next Super Team.
"Maximum Control: The all Dominator/Controller team".
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
I can't play controllers ever since the Dom buffs (Yes they're buffs. All of them.) Doms are just so much more fun to play now and so much more powerfull. My plant/fire/widow damage output is, at the least, fire scrapper level. It's craziness.
The real problem is that this is yet another blow to defenders since now that they'll have to compete with corr and doms who don't give as much support but bring much more pain.
My Earth/Energy/Mako "Domination + power Boost = Stalagmites that stun for almost a minute. Power Boost + Earthquake = -25% accuracy debuff and that's just the start let's not even go into the extreme ST damage or that all the Force Feedback proc in my energy blasts pushes my recharge rates into space. You need a controller over me for what? Green numbers?? BWA HAHAHAHA!!!"
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Being that both may be available options to the player, regardless of 'side'; how do you believe the new Dom will stack up against the Controller?
Which will be your preference when the opportunity arises?
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I actually think Dominator VS Blaster is a more accurate comparison but it's just me.
In terms of control, Dominator is still superior most of the time but it's the buff/debuff that Controllers excel.
Dominator can bring a lot of damage while offering one of the best controls in the game. I think Blaster only beats Dominator in burst damage department.
PS: And I'll throw in Fortunata into the mis too. Fort is just too good.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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I'm guessing 'lighter' = less effective.
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Yeah.
Although the only reason why that seems that way is because Controllers use their controls more than Dominators since they lack any attacks outside of APPs.
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Actually, no; Dominators DO have weaker controls ( out of Domination ) than Controllers. Controllers have an accuracy bonus with them, and they last longer.
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