The Official suggestion thread for new VEAT / HEAT

Hi. I have an idea regarding new VEATs & HEATs and thought I would start a thread for it.

The Official suggestion thread for new VEAT / HEAT.

* VEAT is defined as Villain Epic Archetype (eg soldiers of arachnos); HEAT means Hero Epic Archetype (eg peace bringers).


Some basic structure to follow:<ul type="square">[*]Name of the archetype group[*]Is it a VEAT (villain side) or HEAT (hero side)?[*]Give example of faction if it exists in game as an enemy (eg Carnies)[*]If something that doesn't exist, a short description of what it is. Try to limit it to something using the current humanoid body types available (in the costume editor)[*]some short examples of their powers[*]why your suggestion appeals to you[*]feel free to link in example pictures.[/list]
OR if you aren't making a suggestion, you can always post for/against the suggestion making sure you give some constructive feedback as to your point.

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It's HEAT. Hero Epic ArcheType.

An EAT includes both, and also makes me hungry.

Kheldian Slayers<ul type="square">[*]VEAT[*]Based off the Void Hunters and Quantum gunners. You could choose to either have the power of the quantum, or the path of the Void.[*]Similar powers to what this faction already has (with balancing). They will need some powers added/adjusting. Could possibly incorporate some powers from the Galaxy foe type? Galaxy Soldiers [*]I love the appearance of the void hunters. They have a cool looking weapon also, and it packs a mean punch. This is the nemesis of the kheldians and would make a good villain group to reflect the hero-side khelds.[*]Screeny Void hunters
Info Void hunter info
Screeny of Quantum BFG [/list]

Agents of Artemis<ul type="square">[*]VEAT[*]Based off Knives of Artemis (KoA)[*]Same powers as the KoA, with balancing. This AT could develop starting off at level 1 as a mercenary, level 20 into a Blade of Artemis, and level 40 into the Hand of Artemis.[*]I always hate fighting this faction, they are a difficult challenge and have some awesome powers. I also love their costumes (my favourite halloween temp costume power!). I want this costume GIMME! I do foresee a challenge as they are an all-female faction, anyone who is hung up on canon would argue this. But then, they went and made male widows available, so why not male KoA? This would also be the chance for villains to get a broad-sword set.[*] Screenies &amp; details: Knives of Artemis [/list]

Paragon Police Unit<ul type="square">[*]HEAT[*]Paragon police department.[*]Same powers as the PPD, with balancing. Will probably need some additional powers added to the sets. This has the potential to be a really diverse group &amp; a lot of fun. This is 6 options in the 1 archetypes life. Basically you can pick from 2 options when you create the character, again from 2 options at level 20, and again at level 40. [*]Examples. (Basic info of the PPD )
Level1 choose from:
Start Choice 1 - PPD Cop
Start Choice 2 - PPD undercover cop
Level 20 choose from:
1st Promotion - PPD Ghost
1st Promotion - SWAT Equalizer
Level 40 choose from:
Senior Promotion - SWAT Grenadier
Senior Promotion - PPD Hardsuit [*]Who doesn't want to run around wearing their very own real PPD hardsuit, with the real powers to boot? Its pretty and shiny. Also, I would have a lot of fun starting as a rookie cop, mixing up powers as I get promoted, and the ability of having dual builds means I can have a lot of fun.[/list]
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Ooops &amp; TY for picking up on that Will edit my eats into Heats as I eat some cookies...

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

Not quite an EAT, but tI cam up with Vigilantes a while back... Could use them as a third designation as I've outlined them as someone able to travel from the Isles to Praetoria, to Paragon without any effort by comparison to the convoluted method we'll doubtlessly need to overcome?

And there's always the Movement Master/Mistress EAT I created.... Took several posts to do, too! Moved them all to Lady Jade's just before the thread they were originally in got the axe.

-Rachel-

I would rather see a new chunk of lore added to the game, along with a new EAT. Nothing based on what already exists, no rehashing old stuff. Shiney and new stuff.

I could go for...I dunno...a subterranian race of bug people or something. Aliens have been done enough already, let's get freakish and bizzare!

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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Agreed.

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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I disagree (unsurprisingly.) Epic ATs should do what they were initially defined as - be tied to (and explore) a specific part of the lore more deeply than the regular ATs.

However, they should (obviously) not be unlocked at 50 - the devs won't do that again.

That said:

Status of previously mentioned EATs.

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And *that* said, if the best they can do is give them the *utter crap, not worth playing* style storyline of the VEATs instead of the in depth, fun and interesting one of the Khelds, they shouldn't bother. A story-based AT with no story worth mentioning just... no.

See my Guides and Tutorials

<ul type="square">[*]Pyrons and Arctons[*]These Archetypes can be rolled on either side[*]When Dr. Brainstorm performed experiments to determine the nature of Peacebringer and Warshade powers, he accidentally produced two new permutations: Pyrons, Kheldians that manifest their cosmic power as flame, and Arctons, Nictus whose dark attacks erupt as bitter cold.[*]Pyrons' Burning Blast powers focus mostly on damage over time and damage resistance debuffs. Their Burning Aura grants Defense(instead of resistance) to various damage types, as well as self-buffs and buffs that aid their allies. The bonuses they gain dependant on the Archetypes they team with are the same as for Peacebringers, as are their inherent travel powers. But unlike Peacebringers, their buffs(and their Heat Seeker pets) require an enemy target to drain thermal energy from.[*]Arctons' Frost Blast powers have the main secondary effects of debuffing damage and movement speed, and have a few control powers. Their Frosty Aura powers grant them Defense to various attack types, as well as debuffs and self-buffs. The bonuses they gain dependant on the Archetypes they team with are the same as for Warshades, as are their inherent travel powers. But unlike Warshades, their debuffs and self-buffs do not require the presence of an enemy to use.[*]Mostly I wanna see powers with names like Red Dwarf(Pyron tanking form) and Cold Shoulder(Arcton melee hold)[/list]

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Their Burning Aura grants Defense(instead of resistance) to various damage types

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It might be worth noting here that the existing Fiery Aura defensive set grants resistance. Of course, Energy Aura gives defense while PBs have resist so meh.

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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Agreed.

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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I disagree (unsurprisingly.)

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You would disagree with me if I said the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water.

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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I disagree (unsurprisingly.)

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You would disagree with me if I said the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water.

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Heh. No, some things I might actually agree with you on.

This just doesn't happen to be one of them.

See my Guides and Tutorials

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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I disagree (unsurprisingly.)

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You would disagree with me if I said the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water.

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Heh. No, some things I might actually agree with you on.

This just doesn't happen to be one of them.

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You don't think the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water?

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I would suggest that there never again be an AT designated "epic". New ATs should just be regular ATs available at character select. I would much prefer a number of "neutral" (that can play on either side) ATs to coincide with Going Rogue.

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I disagree (unsurprisingly.)

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You would disagree with me if I said the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water.

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Heh. No, some things I might actually agree with you on.

This just doesn't happen to be one of them.

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You don't think the Atlantic Ocean is a body of water?

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*throws something heavy at EG* :P

See my Guides and Tutorials

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I could go for...I dunno...a subterranian race of bug people or something. Aliens have been done enough already, let's get freakish and bizzare!

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I'd love to see ATs connected to the great ancient civilizations of the world: Oranbegans, Mu and Coralax.

@SpaceNut - My 50s, AE arcs and current projects at ParagonWiki

I'd love to see Vampires (based on Council Vampiri) and Werewolves (based on.. well, Council Wolves) become an EAT that can be rolled in either side.

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Their Burning Aura grants Defense(instead of resistance) to various damage types

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It might be worth noting here that the existing Fiery Aura defensive set grants resistance. Of course, Energy Aura gives defense while PBs have resist so meh.

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Yes, this is a BURNING Aura, not a Fiery Aura.

This thread isn't so much official as officious.

So to both the mistitled thread and the ideas it contains: don't want.

You apparently misunderstand the purpose of this thread.

It is a place to suggest ideas for any future possibility of a new epic archteype.

There are other official threads for power suggestions, base suggestions etc. I went looking for the thread for official epic archteypes and could not find one. So I went and made one.

It's just suggestions and ideas.

If you are going to call this 'officious' then you might as well do the same for every idea anyone else has posted on these forums. :P

I didn't misunderstand. I just peevishly didn't like something that wasn't official being self-declared official.

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I didn't misunderstand. I just peevishly didn't like something that wasn't official being self-declared official.

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OK I get your point.
And I just learnt something new, apparently I'm not allowed to use the word official :P
Note however, I only used the word official to make it sound like a *central* point for suggestions on this topic. I did not infer in any way that something officially is being implemented.

I just tried to rename the header in my original post, but it won't let me... so I will edit the subject of this individual post &amp; hopefully future posts are in reply to this one (without the word official).

Fair enough. I shouldn't have been so snarky in my reply anyway.

No prob at all.
In hindsight I was a bit snarky myself, sorry about that.
Tis' 8am and I've been up all night going insane trying to respec my earth/TA controller, and the unlimited options is driving me nuts. That plus I'm still trying to get used to using mids.

Back on topic however, I see someone mentioned coralax.

I would LOVE to be able to make a coralax toon. In that body form also! Would be a lot of fun &amp; have good canon (or however you say that) as in could be tied to the lore of the game. :-)