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doesnt know the complexity of the program

[/ QUOTE ]Which is why the I14 update was delayed, while Steiner learned it

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So the I14 update actually was put out for everyone with mids? do I need to change the path to updating server now to be able to get the updates? Or has it indeed not been released?

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It has not been released yet. We're expecting to see all the changes (up to and including I15 changes) soon.

I hate to say this, but please read the thread or post fully before responding. This had already been answered in the thread.

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This doesn't mean THE MAN THAT MADE IT SHOULD NOT GET CREDIT. NCsoft made a profit off of his work and he should be rewarded. simple as that.

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Trust me, he has gotten credit for it. That doesn't mean he should be offered a job. You can thank him any time, as many of us have.

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"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

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Mids Steps Down

That is the link to his announcement on Titan Netork. He wasn't too clear why he stepped down but from this and a few other posts, such as this one.

I have read somewhere (linky?) that he does not play CoH anymore, but kept supporting his program. He just doesn't have the time.

edit: please keep the topic Ode to Mids, not Owed to Mids. I thought the topic was going to be about suggesting a thank-you donation for his efforts.

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OP repsonce: I thought that what I conveyed and more. BTW Thank You Mids for all your hard work.

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Fleeting,

Could you also port Mid's planner to lolcatOS?

i can haz eksecutiepieable?

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Could you also port Mid's planner to lolcatOS?

[/ QUOTE ]You mean Mac OS X Lolcat?

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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

I came in here expecting the usual complaints to why a free, player created tool wasn't up to date with all of I14/15 content. Whining about how "unprofessional" the Mid team was for letting it get out of date.

Glad to see I was wrong. But I'm still waiting for the inevitable thread(s) to appear.

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Tempus unum hominem manet

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I came in here expecting the usual complaints to why a free, player created tool wasn't up to date with all of I14/15 content. Whining about how "unprofessional" the Mid team was for letting it get out of date.

Glad to see I was wrong. But I'm still waiting for the inevitable thread(s) to appear.

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You haven't been paying attention, then. They're around.

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Could you also port Mid's planner to lolcatOS?

[/ QUOTE ]You mean Mac OS X Lolcat?

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Oh, so that's what 'Tiger' is.


(said for the Mac impaired, which includes me... had to Google around to 'get it.')

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I came in here expecting the usual complaints to why a free, player created tool wasn't up to date with all of I14/15 content. Whining about how "unprofessional" the Mid team was for letting it get out of date.

Glad to see I was wrong. But I'm still waiting for the inevitable thread(s) to appear.

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You haven't been paying attention, then. They're around.

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I mean the new ones now that I15 went live.

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Tempus unum hominem manet

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I came in here expecting the usual complaints to why a free, player created tool wasn't up to date with all of I14/15 content. Whining about how "unprofessional" the Mid team was for letting it get out of date.

Glad to see I was wrong. But I'm still waiting for the inevitable thread(s) to appear.

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You haven't been paying attention, then. They're around.

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I mean the new ones now that I15 went live.

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You haven't been paying attention, then. They're around.

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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.

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Steiner is working on Mids' Hero Designer now. The development hasn't stopped.

Additionally, I've just gotten on board with the Titan Network team, and will be working on cross-os compatibility. (translation: making Mids' work for Mac/Linux)

[/ QUOTE ] Why Linux? Can we run CoH on Linux? If so, what version? This game is the only reason I haven't given Linux a real chance.

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Steiner is working on Mids' Hero Designer now. The development hasn't stopped.

Additionally, I've just gotten on board with the Titan Network team, and will be working on cross-os compatibility. (translation: making Mids' work for Mac/Linux)

[/ QUOTE ] Why Linux? Can we run CoH on Linux? If so, what version? This game is the only reason I haven't given Linux a real chance.

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You can run it via Wine or Cedega (the OS X version of CoX is actually running on top of basically the OS X + bundle version of Cedega).

Plus, if he gets it working on OS X, it should basically 'Just Work' on Linux as he's actually making it work on Mono (the cross platform implementation of .Net... Microsoft's version is 'cross platform' as long as the platform is Windows ).

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Plus, if he gets it working on OS X, it should basically 'Just Work' on Linux

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, my test platform is Fedora 9, since I don't have a Mac

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Plus, if he gets it working on OS X, it should basically 'Just Work' on Linux

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, my test platform is Fedora 9, since I don't have a Mac

[/ QUOTE ]Which makes my point even more realistic If you get it working on OS X, it'll be 'cause it's already working on Linux


And 9? Why not upgrade to 11 for Cimerora-style goodness?

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And 9? Why not upgrade to 11 for Cimerora-style goodness?

[/ QUOTE ]Because I had a CD for 9 lying around, and didn't want to download an whole OS

(Actually, I think I've got a Knoppix CD around here somewhere, too...)

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And 9? Why not upgrade to 11 for Cimerora-style goodness?

[/ QUOTE ]Because I had a CD for 9 lying around, and didn't want to download an whole OS

(Actually, I think I've got a Knoppix CD around here somewhere, too...)

[/ QUOTE ]Ah, Knoppix CDs. How great they are for salvaging data when an OS gets corrupted.

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And 9? Why not upgrade to 11 for Cimerora-style goodness?

[/ QUOTE ]Because I had a CD for 9 lying around, and didn't want to download an whole OS

(Actually, I think I've got a Knoppix CD around here somewhere, too...)

[/ QUOTE ]pffft! Back in my day, I'd apt-get dist-upgrade from one version of Fedora to another while everyone on IRC told me it couldn't be done!


Also, back in my day Yum was total trash! ... so I used apt instead

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Did Mid's ever calculate scrapper critical hits into average DPS?

Just a curious question.

Anyone know?

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Mids bowed out due to RL, which no one can escape from. Steiner kindly stepped up. I don't think that lack of appreciation prompted Mids stepping down. Real life can really grab you by the throat sometime.

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[/ QUOTE ]Which is why the I14 update was delayed, while Steiner learned it

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So the I14 update actually was put out for everyone with mids? do I need to change the path to updating server now to be able to get the updates? Or has it indeed not been released?

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It has not been released yet. We're expecting to see all the changes (up to and including I15 changes) soon.

I hate to say this, but please read the thread or post fully before responding. This had already been answered in the thread.

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This doesn't mean THE MAN THAT MADE IT SHOULD NOT GET CREDIT. NCsoft made a profit off of his work and he should be rewarded. simple as that.

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Incorrect. NCSoft made not one single cent off mids work. NCSoft ran for a couple of years before there ever was a Mids Hero Planner. NCSoft's profits existed before Mids Hero Planner.

However, Mid surely did make a very useful tool for us to plan our characters with. I personally am very challenged to build a toon without the planner. Mid certainly does deserve credit for his work. No one is disputing that.

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In all seriousness... I really think mid's is an important enough part of this game that CoH should basically take his idea and build an Official offline charictor builder.


They could do things that Mid cannot.. for example, they can use real the real data instead of datamined data. They could allow you to import the build during a respec.... or export a build.

Lots of good stuff.

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[/ QUOTE ]Um... datamined data is the real data. Have you ever looked at City of Data? It's got exactly the stuff that's in-game.

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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

Looks like a new update for Mids will be coming Friday or sometime this weekend!

And I agree with most of you who said that CoH should have a program of their own.

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And, to help tide you over until then, Here's what I've been working on!

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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

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I promise an updated release of MxD by 12-noon Friday the 24th of July (US/Eastern) at the latest.

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Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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My sentiments exactly!

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