For just a little bit more clarification on the whole email thing...
I'm thinking that your email should only be open to Devs and CoX Support automatically and people you allow to send you email, but the people you allow to email you can only email you from the account that you allow to have email access to you.
That way a person couldn't just email you anymore just based off of the fact that they know your character name or global name. They couldn't get permission from a legitimate account just so they could send you spam from some other account they have.
The "Not Accepting Invites" flag does prevent people from inviting you. However, I don't think a flag to prevent invites until they've sent a /tell would be useful, since people would just use "/tell DragunBlud, h" and then immediately invite.
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Yes, when this option is selected (found in the /hide menu) you do not receive invite pop-ups.
No need for a change.
The people who want tells first are actually open to teaming. If they weren't they would use this option. If they want a tell first they will usually put that in their Team message. It's up to the team leaders to actually read these messages though.
A way to force it on them isn't necessary. They usually get the drift after they are berated a couple of times.
Edit: Oh and btw, I think you meant "accepting", not "excepting".
true all true... I guess there really is no way to enforce politeness lol. if it were it would be in some kinda law.
I don't think the invite is so annoying as is the pop-up window. I've actually asked a few players why online why they like to put "lft pst 1st" or something like that in their search description. and a majority of them usually all say the same thing about how they don't like the pretty much. If there were an option just like "prompt team teleport [enable/disable]" that allowed the team invite to show up in the chat box instead of as an immediate pop up. if you wanted the invite you could then click on the invite in your chat box and then the pop up comes up.
But yes... thanks for answering that question. the "not accepting invites" options kinda solves all this. Unless you're actually looking for a team and just find "pop-ups" to be annoying and at an unexpected time lol
thanks again.
It's never the blind invites that bother me, it's the people who send a tell and then immediately invite without waiting for a response. This seems to be a growing trend, with most of those doing it asking if I want to do AE.
Another thing that bothers me, though is purely bad luck and not anyone else's fault, is that nobody ever sends me tells asking if they want me to team with them until I feel like standing around and chatting with friends instead of doing stuff.
yea... like when you get invites right when you're about to log off and have to go take care of something more important than gaming lol
"Do not accept invites" does not prevent people from sending you a /tell.
/hide can prevent people from sending you a /tell, however... that is, if they can find you in the first place, which even your friends shouldn't be able to do if you have it set right.
Having "not looking for a team" set as your "LFT" flag means any invite you get without being preceeded by a /tell is a blind invite.
But that's it... If you're out there with anything else up, in other words with "your flag up" signaling that you're looking for any kind of team at all, there's no such thing as a blind invite. If you solicit an invite by setting your LFT flag to "Looking for..." then it's not a blind invite.
In other words, players have all the power and ability and therefore the responsibility to dictate the terms of their own experience. In other words, if you're really annoyed by blind invites, then do something about it for yourself. It's your game, it's your character, it's your account.
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If you solicit an invite by setting your LFT flag to "Looking for..." then it's not a blind invite.
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No, it's still a blind invite...because you have no idea what kind of team/person it's coming from.
Actually, if you read the the message inside the pop-up window, it tells you that somebody wants to invite you to a team. So, technically, you are "asked" to join through the pop-up window. I do think the "request" through the pop-up window is a cold message and the window maybe annoying if there are a lot of invites. So, I would appreciate a tell if possible.
But in reality, I might not want a tell sometimes. For example, a typical tell I get is "lft?" The tell is really not better than the sentence in the pop-up window, in fact I think it is worse. And then I have to reply "yes," and I have to click "accept" again in the pop-up window. For this situation, I'd rather have the person shove me a pop-up window to start with. lol
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It's never the blind invites that bother me, it's the people who send a tell and then immediately invite without waiting for a response. This seems to be a growing trend, with most of those doing it asking if I want to do AE.
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While not always accurate I've found some significant correlation between how well a person can express himself to how much I enjoy teaming with them.
To this end I use the first contact to decide if I should join/stay on a team or wait around. If the first message I see (team chat or private) is lacking over 50% of the vowels required to be translated into English I say "na nay no".
While I do accept invites without a preceding message I don't think being set to LFG invalidates a request for contact first.
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If you solicit an invite by setting your LFT flag to "Looking for..." then it's not a blind invite.
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No, it's still a blind invite...because you have no idea what kind of team/person it's coming from.
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It's kinda funny that there are a lot of search comments say no blind invite, pst first. But then the tells are like "hey, up for team," which doesn't contain any information at all. The incoming invite is as blind as before.
I think setting the looking-for-any flag maybe a bad idea sometimes. With the white circle up, blind invites are no longer blind. And all the farming requests comes even the search comment states no farming.
Also, if you're gonna blind invite someone, tell them what the damn plan is when they ask. Don't make the person wait two minutes to figure out what is going on.
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If you solicit an invite by setting your LFT flag to "Looking for..." then it's not a blind invite.
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No, it's still a blind invite...because you have no idea what kind of team/person it's coming from.
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It's an invite that you solicited. If you want to consider it a "blind invite" then fine but at that point the phrase has zero meaning whatsoever given that you were literally asking for it in the first place. So the word "blind invite" not only loses all meaning in terms of the way we say it, but most importantly it loses all it's pejorative qualities and simply becomes a "solicited invite".
If you ask for an invite, any invite you get is not a "blind invite".
Brother of Markus
The Lord of Fire and Pain
The Legendary Living Hellfire
Fight my brute!
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It's an invite that you solicited. If you want to consider it a "blind invite" then fine but at that point the phrase has zero meaning whatsoever given that you were literally asking for it in the first place. So the word "blind invite" not only loses all meaning in terms of the way we say it, but most importantly it loses all it's pejorative qualities and simply becomes a "solicited invite".
If you ask for an invite, any invite you get is not a "blind invite".
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I remembered that at one time, I wanted to find a boyfriend. Then my mom said that she could find her friend's son or something like that. I told her that I don't know them, it's like a blind date. Then she said that it's not a blind date since I asked for it. I said to myself..oh my...
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It's an invite that you solicited. If you want to consider it a "blind invite" then fine but at that point the phrase has zero meaning whatsoever given that you were literally asking for it in the first place. So the word "blind invite" not only loses all meaning in terms of the way we say it, but most importantly it loses all it's pejorative qualities and simply becomes a "solicited invite".
If you ask for an invite, any invite you get is not a "blind invite".
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I remembered that at one time, I wanted to find a boyfriend. Then my mom said that she could find her friend's son or something like that. I told her that I don't know them, it's like a blind date. Then she said that it's not a blind date since I asked for it. I said to myself..oh my...
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Dissembling aside, it is what it is.
A solicited invitation to a team is not a blind invite. It is, in fact, a solicited invite.
And getting snotty with someone when one is sent an invite when one's flag is up is douchey in the extreme. It's like having a "Come on in!" sign on your porch and a wide open front door and then getting all uppity when people wander into your house because they didn't knock.
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Whenever I get sent a tell that says nothing but "lft?" I respond with: "lfm?" That tends to confuse people.
Or I'll say "idk brb lol"
One time I replied with "ssmtyfi"
I got back: wut?
I then explained what it stood for...."stop sending me tells you fudging idiot" (Only I didn't say "fudge" )
Oh, I forgot to mention, the same guy sent me 8 "lft?" tells in a row, followed immediately by an invite every time.
I had one person tell me: "I invited you, you HAVE to accept it!" Apparently they had never had an invite declined before. First time for everything.
I never have my LFT flag up,so I'm not soliciting anything. If someone sends me a polite, legible tell asking if I want to team, I will ask what they are doing and consider whether I want to do that right now.
If someone is going to be rude and assume that I want to team with them without any knowledge of what they're doing (or in some cases, what they're saying) I will respond appropriately, usually by being an intelligent donkey.
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Whenever I get sent a tell that says nothing but "lft?" I respond with: "lfm?" That tends to confuse people.
Or I'll say "idk brb lol"
One time I replied with "ssmtyfi"
I got back: wut?
I then explained what it stood for...."stop sending me tells you fudging idiot" (Only I didn't say "fudge" )
Oh, I forgot to mention, the same guy sent me 8 "lft?" tells in a row, followed immediately by an invite every time.
I had one person tell me: "I invited you, you HAVE to accept it!" Apparently they had never had an invite declined before. First time for everything.
I never have my LFT flag up,so I'm not soliciting anything. If someone sends me a polite, legible tell asking if I want to team, I will ask what they are doing and consider whether I want to do that right now.
If someone is going to be rude and assume that I want to team with them without any knowledge of what they're doing (or in some cases, what they're saying) I will respond appropriately, usually by being an intelligent donkey.
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This. Just cause I have LFT up DOES NOT mean I'll want to be on a team where I'm +5 above everyone.
Let me know what we plan to do before I zone.
Isn't rocket science to type "LVL 40 team, doing newspapers, interested?". Nor is it some huge strenous activity.
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I'd say its just good simple open communication.
I also use the definition of blind invite that means "An invitation to a team sent with no information about what you are getting into".
Just because a store has a help wanted sign in the window doesn't mean you get the job for walking in.
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I'd say its just good simple open communication.
I also use the definition of blind invite that means "An invitation to a team sent with no information about what you are getting into".
Just because a store has a help wanted sign in the window doesn't mean you get the job for walking in.
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But it doesn't mean that you dont' automatically NOT get the job just for walking in.
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Fight my brute!
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Just because a store has a help wanted sign in the window doesn't mean you get the job for walking in.
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That's an excellent analogy that would likely go over the heads of the people sending blind invites.
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I'd say its just good simple open communication.
I also use the definition of blind invite that means "An invitation to a team sent with no information about what you are getting into".
Just because a store has a help wanted sign in the window doesn't mean you get the job for walking in.
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But it doesn't mean that you dont' automatically NOT get the job just for walking in.
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Depends on how you are dressed. For some employeers you most certainly can be auto disqualified just by walking in. Especially in this economy.
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I'd say its just good simple open communication.
I also use the definition of blind invite that means "An invitation to a team sent with no information about what you are getting into".
Just because a store has a help wanted sign in the window doesn't mean you get the job for walking in.
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But it doesn't mean that you dont' automatically NOT get the job just for walking in.
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Depends on how you are dressed. For some employeers you most certainly can be auto disqualified just by walking in. Especially in this economy.
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Right... so here's the part where I abandon what is clearly an overfed analogy.
If you have your flag up and it's set to anythign other than "Do Not Accept Invites" or "Not looking for a team", then you have no right [u]whatsoever[u] to complain about recieving an invite out of the blue. None.
You have every right to send the person a /tell and ask them anyting you like. Nobody's saying that you can't communicate however you like with whomever you like. That being said, my rule is three questions. If I'm asked more than three questions the invite is rescinded, even if I have to kick the person from the team. I have no patience for that nonsense... but that's just me. I'm not doing "interviews" for prospective team mates, forget it, I have better things to do with my time.
So if your flag is up and you get an invite and you want to ask the person what they're doing and what level they are... that's fair, there's nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned. But if that flag is up, you lose any and all right to complain about an "out of the blue" invite because you're soliciting it in the first place.
You want people to send a /tell first, then keep your flag down.
EDIT - And, by the way...
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Okay this is an idea I guess on enforcing a little etiquette within the game.
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The idea of "enforcing" etiquette is not only high-minded to the most ludicrous degree, so much so as to be arrogant, it's also completely paradoxical.
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The only thing I don't understand is that the "not accepting invites" people show up AT THE TOP OF THE SEARCH PAGE. So, you click "not accepting invites" so you're not bothered, and you're more likely to be bothered by people that don't bother with paying attention to the flags.
Okay this is an idea I guess on enforcing a little etiquette within the game.
Alot of people in the game, especially some veteran players I've noticed... complain about and/or don't like people sending them invites to a team without "please send tell" (PST) message 1st.
I'm not a stickler for having to get a "tell" all the time 1st, but it can get annoying if i'm trying to do something else and I keep getting invite pop ups from time to time.
I notice that there is an option in the search criteria that you can select that says "not excepting invites". I don't use this option often and was wondering does it prevent people from sending me invites or does it just let people know I'm not looking for an invite (only if they are courteous, or diligent enough to look up my name in a search).
If this option doesn't prevent you from receiving pop up invites. How about this as an idea: A "you must send this player a tell 1st b4 inviting" option. Of course the message can probably be shorter.
I thinking... we could have an option that flags our characters that way if anyone tries to anonymously invite you to a team. You can have an option already selected for your character that will pop up for the person inviting that says "You must Ask this Player 1st before inviting".
I don't know... I would hope this is something that could be done and not too hard to do for the players of the game.
I even wish that email was only open to Devs, Support, and friends that you give permission to email you and not any and everyone so that spam email would more than likely become a thing of the past.
If you got spam email after that, then you know it was someone you gave the email permission to... and then you could just take that person off your list and even ignore them if you like.