Dark/Nin.
Almost too much utility, and PLENTY of damage.
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My vote goes to Elec/* it's one of the few sets that works better on a Stalker than other ATs.
Dark is good, but I'd rather play it on another AT because of what it gives up for AS/placate (Soul Drain, Dark Consumption).
Definitely Dark/Nin or Elec/Nin. Actually almost Elec/ANYTHING.. yes.. its That good.
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What powerset combination would you consider to be the "most powerful" for a PvE Stalker?
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It depends. What's your playstyle? Are you hit and run, scrap it out, what? Are you going to be solo or teamed most of the time? Do you want to focus on single target damage to down EBs/AVs, or do you want to be able to handle big groups of foes at once?
There's no One Perfect Set. There's alot of great sets and combinations of sets depending on what you want to do and ultimately what you like.
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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.
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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.
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Then you try and kill a boss, and just stand there spamming AS because you don't have any REAL single target damage...
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.
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Then you try and kill a boss, and just stand there spamming AS because you don't have any REAL single target damage...
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QFT. I love my Elec/EA on teams, but NEVER vs hard targets. The aoe is just amazing, but the ST doesn't exist.
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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.
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Then you try and kill a boss, and just stand there spamming AS because you don't have any REAL single target damage...
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Meh, spines scrappers deal with the same issue relative to their brethren as well and they seem to manage their 'handicap' just fine.
I wouldn't roll elec if all you plan to do is solo, but if you like teaming it is my vote.
Me I'd go DM if you like to fight groups of 3-4 enemies and elec if you like to fight 5+. Slowing down at the boss(es) is more than compensated by blowing through hordes of everything else.
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pve wise elec has no equal, seriously yo try a hidden thunderstrike and AS and entire group of ppl all at once, its sick.
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Then you try and kill a boss, and just stand there spamming AS because you don't have any REAL single target damage...
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I ran into Silver Mantis on an Elec/SD Brute. Elec/SD destroys spawns so I thought one enemy couldn't be much of a problem. Joke was on me, ElM's single target damage is just silly weak. Only Brute I've ever failed to kill Silver Mantis on, even with Inspirations, after multiple tries.
Electric is pretty and kills spawns dead, though.
Of course, Dark Melee's AS...it's just plain AWESOME. Hitting people with a big skull? Yes please!
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I can heartily support the recommendations for DM/Ninjitsu so far. It's a highly survivable combo with the defense, the -tohit from DM to supplement this, and the two self-heals (one of which is actually a good attack, too!). The damage is also fantastic.
I've got one that I've taken to 48 so far, and she's awesome. I have a Night Widow with a completed IO build, too, and I far prefer the Stalker even though she's not soft-capped. The heals and the tricks more than make up for a few defense points, and the damage seems equivalent most of the time with bursts of much better. And she's way more end-efficient.
Overall, it's an incredibly solid combination that totally lives up to the hype it gets on these boards. It has no AoE damage whatsoever, but the tools and fantastic single-target damage make up for that.
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It has no AoE damage whatsoever,
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Caltrops!
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Gotta throw my vote in for DM/Nin. Pretty amazing is what I would call it. 
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Gotta throw my vote in for DM/Nin. Pretty amazing is what I would call it.
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Gotta throw in an opposite vote. But I think this is largely personal preference because I find DM to be pretty boring. Yes a good combo, good damage, and all that but I actually deleted my DM/Nin. Whereas I have kept and ran a Claws/Nin to 50 and doing the same with an Elec/Nin.
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Gotta throw my vote in for DM/Nin. Pretty amazing is what I would call it.
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Gotta throw in an opposite vote. But I think this is largely personal preference because I find DM to be pretty boring. Yes a good combo, good damage, and all that but I actually deleted my DM/Nin. Whereas I have kept and ran a Claws/Nin to 50 and doing the same with an Elec/Nin.
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But the point is power, not whether or not a set is--ahem--'boring'. Claws cannot be seriously compared with DM.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
Well I'll throw my hat in the ring and say...
NB/SR.. forget about defense and just keep your target unable to fight back.. pretty self explanitary... in group if you can understand the cone with GD then your golden....
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What powerset combination would you consider to be the "most powerful" for a PvE Stalker?
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Spines/Will + Shadow Meld.
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Spines/SR + Ball of Lightning for more aoe
You can open any team size battle with Build Up + Throw Spines + Shadow Meld. Ball of Lightning is good if your primary only has ST damage.
Electricity and Claw are great too.
Actually, Dual Blade is good too!
In PvE, do you mean solo or large team all the time? If it's soloing, then Dark Melee rocks very hard. If it's large team, then Spines/Elec/Claw/Dual blade.
Actually, the only set that I can't figure out what's good for is Martial Arts....
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Gotta throw my vote in for DM/Nin. Pretty amazing is what I would call it.
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Gotta throw in an opposite vote. But I think this is largely personal preference because I find DM to be pretty boring. Yes a good combo, good damage, and all that but I actually deleted my DM/Nin. Whereas I have kept and ran a Claws/Nin to 50 and doing the same with an Elec/Nin.
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Throwing an "opposite" vote would mean that DM is weak PvE. Anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would not throw an "opposite" vote regarding the "power" of DM.
The question was very specific and your response regarding the power of DM lacks sound rationale.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Another for DM/Nin. Largely because it's the only one I have enough experience with to comment on.
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Throwing an "opposite" vote would mean that DM is weak PvE. Anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would not throw an "opposite" vote regarding the "power" of DM.
The question was very specific and your response regarding the power of DM lacks sound rationale.
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Ok, so I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't like DM? I gather that's what you are implying.
Can you TP into a large spawn with DM, knock them all down and take them all out with 2 powers? I don't think so.
His questions really wasn't very specific because "powerful" is subjective. If the question were "which primary is the most powerful for tackling single targets like AVs and EBs, well that's different.
And I'm not the only one stating personal preference here, so please try to be a little courteous because you implied that I'm both an idiot and don't know what I'm talking about. I'm neither, but I am a RAVING lunatic.
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Can you TP into a large spawn with DM, knock them all down and take them all out with 2 powers? I don't think so.
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Neither can Elec, because large spawn = bosses and lieutenants. While you're potentially whittling away on the bosses, I'm whittling away on the minions and downing them one at a time in a couple shots. Which threat would you rather face?
Doom.
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This is really doom.
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Can you TP into a large spawn with DM, knock them all down and take them all out with 2 powers? I don't think so.
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Neither can Elec, because large spawn = bosses and lieutenants. While you're potentially whittling away on the bosses, I'm whittling away on the minions and downing them one at a time in a couple shots. Which threat would you rather face?
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I was thinking of a paper mission I did a few days ago. There were no Bosses, lots of Freaks but no Bosses until the end. And OK, so the Lieuts took one extra hit with Havoc Punch to take them out, big deal.
But I do agree about the single target damage for Elec, but I've never really had an issue fighting Bosses. Fighting two bosses at once wasn't even a big deal because Caltrops is so effective. And I have enough recharge on this toon that Havoc Punch and Chain Induction recharge very fast (and the proc in Havoc Punch goes off more often that I would have thought).
But against AV/EBs I'd want a DM/Nin on my team, most definitely!
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Throwing an "opposite" vote would mean that DM is weak PvE. Anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would not throw an "opposite" vote regarding the "power" of DM.
The question was very specific and your response regarding the power of DM lacks sound rationale.
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Ok, so I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't like DM? I gather that's what you are implying.
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One thing people around here know is I don't imply. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. You may not have meant to say DM was not powerful, but thats what you said. And yes if you "feel" that you don't know what you are talking about. I don't think I am the only one that pointed to DM as one of the most powerful PvE sets.
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His questions really wasn't very specific because "powerful" is subjective. If the question were "which primary is the most powerful for tackling single targets like AVs and EBs, well that's different.
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This was the question:
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What powerset combination would you consider to be the "most powerful" for a PvE Stalker?
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Pretty clear and consise.
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And I'm not the only one stating personal preference here, so please try to be a little courteous because you implied that I'm both an idiot and don't know what I'm talking about. I'm neither, but I am a RAVING lunatic.
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It really was not about personal preference it was about the most powerful. Yes, subjective as to which powerset is the one on top I will give you that no doubt. What I will not give you is the opposite of DM being powerful, which is not powerful and is what you said even if thats not what you meant.
So once again if you think DM is not powerful then YES you don't know what you are talking about. I have not cursed or called you names, stating facts is not being discourteous to you eventhough you don't like hearing the truth.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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So once again if you think DM is not powerful then YES you don't know what you are talking about. I have not cursed or called you names, stating facts is not being discourteous to you eventhough you don't like hearing the truth.
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Facts? I must have missed those along the way.
It is certainly NOT a fact that any set is THE most powerful. In any given situation, one set may come out on top, but this is why we discuss these issues, isn't it?
I fear you are putting words into my mouth because not once did I say DM was not powerful. You have to go a lot further to actually prove that DM/Nin is somehow THE most powerful combo in the game with objective authority. Is it really worth it? I don't think so, but you may.
What powerset combination would you consider to be the "most powerful" for a PvE Stalker?
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