Jack Emmert - 20 most influencial people in MMO's
By
Angry_Citizen,
Posted on: 2009-06-01 22:20 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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What's a wombat anyway?
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Something you DON'T want flying into your house.
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Too bad that WombatMan would probably get genericed. 
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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Heh, the failure of reading comp in this thread is epic.
And it's not on Angry's side. lol
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What's a wombat anyway?
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Something you DON'T want flying into your house.
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Too bad that WombatMan would probably get genericed.
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he would? damnit.
I seem to remember an old Animanics song that was made of him. Or am I thinking of another WB cartoon?
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Which effectively means that you believe all influential people, ever and into the future, must be competent.
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I said they must have some competency, and I firmly believe this to be true. Feel free to prove me wrong but it will be very difficult to find an influential person that doesn't contain some competency that lead them to their current standing.
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That depends on if the competency has to be at something positive or not. Ie, does someone who is a competent liar or cheat, count as competent?
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Is it something that not everyone is innately good at?
While a comptency might not be socially desireable in one situation it can be invaluable in another.
Take for example lying (seeing as how it has been mentioned). Someone who excels at lying is generally seen as "bad", but put them into hostage negotiation and their ability to lie suddenly becomes a valuable asset.
There are no competencies that can't be pushed around the morality meter, but that of course makes the presumption that your morality is the right basis to follow.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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I know. Faith in an intelligent humanity is a terrible thing to lose.
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You haven't looked at some of the stuff in the MA have you?
Trust me when I say intelligent humanity was overrated in the first place.
Especially in an mmo.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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Angry said:
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I liked Jack Emmert probably more than most people. He created a great and enduring game.
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Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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Which effectively means that you believe all influential people, ever and into the future, must be competent.
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I said they must have some competency, and I firmly believe this to be true. Feel free to prove me wrong but it will be very difficult to find an influential person that doesn't contain some competency that lead them to their current standing.
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That depends on if the competency has to be at something positive or not. Ie, does someone who is a competent liar or cheat, count as competent?
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Is it something that not everyone is innately good at?
While a comptency might not be socially desireable in one situation it can be invaluable in another.
Take for example lying (seeing as how it has been mentioned). Someone who excels at lying is generally seen as "bad", but put them into hostage negotiation and their ability to lie suddenly becomes a valuable asset.
There are no competencies that can't be pushed around the morality meter, but that of course makes the presumption that your morality is the right basis to follow.
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True, yet I would HOPE that SOME morality is just outright off the way no matter what standard you apply.
Otherwise people in this thread would not be freaking out from having Jack Emmert's name mentioned in the same sentence as that of Stalin and Hitler. Which btw, was an idiotic and unnecessary freak out based on how all three were used in the sentence.
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What's a wombat anyway?
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Something you DON'T want flying into your house.
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Too bad that WombatMan would probably get genericed.
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he would? damnit.
I seem to remember an old Animanics song that was made of him. Or am I thinking of another WB cartoon?
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I am just assuming there are enough people who would assume a Wombatman would be a Batman ripoff that eventually it would get reported and eventually a GM would generic him.
Animaniacs had lawyers on their side (plus WB owns Batman).
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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Angry said:
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I liked Jack Emmert probably more than most people. He created a great and enduring game.
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Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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How dare you point out rationality with an example POSTED IN THE SAME GODDMAN thread, on the internet!!!!
Don't you know is better to read other inane stuff into stuff and words in poster's mouths? Have you no shame!!!??
This is the INTERWEBZ!!!!
oh and just if anyone's reading comp fails miserably again:
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What's a wombat anyway?
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Something you DON'T want flying into your house.
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Too bad that WombatMan would probably get genericed.
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he would? damnit.
I seem to remember an old Animanics song that was made of him. Or am I thinking of another WB cartoon?
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I am just assuming there are enough people who would assume a Wombatman would be a Batman ripoff that eventually it would get reported and eventually a GM would generic him.
Animaniacs had lawyers on their side (plus WB owns Batman).
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On that last line I know. But I was more trying to remember the words from the song.
Not sure if it was actually Animanics either.
EDIT: Wasn't it:
Wombat man
Wombat man
Does whatever a Wombat can
Or something like that? 
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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Heh, the failure of reading comp in this thread is epic.
And it's not on Angry's side. lol
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So is the ability to detect humor. So ya there is a lot of reading comprehension failure going around. Even Angry
It's ok, I know talking about Jack gets people riled up.
The minute someone posts a top 20 most influencial list that they are on for their respective profession is when their "hate" stops seeming trivial and petty, even childish.
That isn't going to happen though because the world is comprised of nobodies. Of which this forum is no exception.
I'm sure if we put up each person's career for throngs of people to disect we'd all have a heap of hindsight errors. Be thankful that doesn't happen because I seriously doubt most people could handle it. I know I couldn't.
Okay, it wasn't animanics afterall:
Wombatman - A television hero parody of Batman, Wombatman is a squat and cynical actor who portrays his character of the same name. Kid Icarus idolizes him and identifies with his various gadgets he uses, as he comes up with similar gadget arrows in his quiver. He appears to be a parody of Adam West, though a brief scene in "The Most Dangerous Game Master" is inspired by the 1989 Tim Burton Batman film. The character is referred to as "Bruce" by a Vicki Vale type character and Wombatman speaks in a style similar to that of Michael Keaton. The show even acknowledges the character is a parody, as Kevin actually mentions "Batman and Robin" by name in "Simon The Ape-Man".
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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Heh, the failure of reading comp in this thread is epic.
And it's not on Angry's side. lol
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So is the ability to detect humor. So ya there is a lot of reading comprehension failure going around. Even Angry
It's ok, I know talking about Jack gets people riled up.
The minute someone posts a top 20 most influencial list that they are on for their respective profession is when their "hate" stops seeming trivial and petty, even childish.
That isn't going to happen though because the world is comprised of nobodies. Of which this forum is no exception.
I'm sure if we put up each person's career for throngs of people to disect we'd all have a heap of hindsight errors. Be thankful that doesn't happen because I seriously doubt most people could handle it. I know I couldn't.
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Humor is great. When it's funny.
LOL, I personally couldn't give a damn what folks think about my career on the internet.
I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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When you have a hundred thousand users all yelling in your ear you tend to get immune to the caterwhauling and stop listening.
Of course, that opens up an entirely new set of problems, as we're all very much aware.
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LOL, that is all.
Morality was not the comparison being made. Epic fail.
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It would seem that not everyone agrees he is the plague to end all plagues.
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Hitler and Stalin were easily among the top 20 most influential men in history, but they were still the plague to end all plagues. Not that I'm comparing Jack to murderers of millions upon millions of innocent people, but the point still stands
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And here was the post. In question. I'll leave for those to make of it what it will.
The response was again failure of comprehension.
Ofcourse like the poster i just responded to said "I've been known to not be right."
EDIT: Also I never addressed the stupidity of the top 20 list. Anyone who knows mmo history sees the problems with the order of that listing.
If they meant to say top 20 in no particular order, that's one thing.
But they didn't say that.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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Heh, the failure of reading comp in this thread is epic.
And it's not on Angry's side. lol
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So is the ability to detect humor. So ya there is a lot of reading comprehension failure going around. Even Angry
It's ok, I know talking about Jack gets people riled up.
The minute someone posts a top 20 most influencial list that they are on for their respective profession is when their "hate" stops seeming trivial and petty, even childish.
That isn't going to happen though because the world is comprised of nobodies. Of which this forum is no exception.
I'm sure if we put up each person's career for throngs of people to disect we'd all have a heap of hindsight errors. Be thankful that doesn't happen because I seriously doubt most people could handle it. I know I couldn't.
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Humor is great. When it's funny.
LOL, I personally couldn't give a damn what folks think about my career on the internet.
I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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Humor is entirely subjective. I'm laughing at most of the posts in this thread while I'm sure others aren't.
I say put your money where your mouth is. Post a link to all of your work. All of it. I bet we see some sensitivity come out pretty quickly.
Unless you are one of those people that could just jump up and sing the national anthem infront of a sold out stadium. But they are one in a million. If you were I doubt you'd be here lurking in an online community, but maybe.
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I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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Wait, you mean he's not moved to tears by the multiple paragraphs of deathless prose I've composed to his downfall over the years?
*weeps*
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Which effectively means that you believe all influential people, ever and into the future, must be competent.
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I said they must have some competency, and I firmly believe this to be true. Feel free to prove me wrong but it will be very difficult to find an influential person that doesn't contain some competency that lead them to their current standing.
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That depends on if the competency has to be at something positive or not. Ie, does someone who is a competent liar or cheat, count as competent?
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Is it something that not everyone is innately good at?
While a comptency might not be socially desireable in one situation it can be invaluable in another.
Take for example lying (seeing as how it has been mentioned). Someone who excels at lying is generally seen as "bad", but put them into hostage negotiation and their ability to lie suddenly becomes a valuable asset.
There are no competencies that can't be pushed around the morality meter, but that of course makes the presumption that your morality is the right basis to follow.
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True, yet I would HOPE that SOME morality is just outright off the way no matter what standard you apply.
Otherwise people in this thread would not be freaking out from having Jack Emmert's name mentioned in the same sentence as that of Stalin and Hitler. Which btw, was an idiotic and unnecessary freak out based on how all three were used in the sentence.
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Well I'm not the d-bag that brought Hitler into the convo in the 3rd? post.
I also have the ability to detect jokes, which is obviously lacking. Forgive me for suggesting that someone that compares Jack Emmert to Hitler and Stalin, turns around and says "actually I like him, more than most" might have some very conflicted emotions.
Oh that's right he wasn't comparing them. It was just coincidence that they all appeared in the same paragraph get real.
To address "morality" though I for one don't think it is at all clear cut.
For example: someone really good with a gun goes up in a bell tower and makes a mess. That is unquestionably bad right?
What if that belltower was in a warzone and the mess was "enemies", still bad?
The competency of using guns isn't "bad", but rather how a person applies it.
We are freaking out that jack and Hitler were used in the same paragraph because we have been taught Hitler = evil. There are some people in the world that would still think that such a comparison would mean they highly respect Jack, even worship him.
I can say that is wrong with absolute conviction, but only if I'm right. And I'm not right to everyone sadly.
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LOL, that is all.
Morality was not the comparison being made. Epic fail.
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Morality was indeed one of the factors brought up regarding what consitutes a competency.
The epic fail is coming from you.
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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Heh, the failure of reading comp in this thread is epic.
And it's not on Angry's side. lol
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So is the ability to detect humor. So ya there is a lot of reading comprehension failure going around. Even Angry
It's ok, I know talking about Jack gets people riled up.
The minute someone posts a top 20 most influencial list that they are on for their respective profession is when their "hate" stops seeming trivial and petty, even childish.
That isn't going to happen though because the world is comprised of nobodies. Of which this forum is no exception.
I'm sure if we put up each person's career for throngs of people to disect we'd all have a heap of hindsight errors. Be thankful that doesn't happen because I seriously doubt most people could handle it. I know I couldn't.
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Humor is great. When it's funny.
LOL, I personally couldn't give a damn what folks think about my career on the internet.
I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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Humor is entirely subjective. I'm laughing at most of the posts in this thread while I'm sure others aren't.
I say put your money where your mouth is. Post a link to all of your work. All of it. I bet we see some sensitivity come out pretty quickly.
Unless you are one of those people that could just jump up and sing the national anthem infront of a sold out stadium. But they are one in a million. If you were I doubt you'd be here lurking in an online community, but maybe.
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LOL, right cause posting my personal life on an online community shows some strong e-peen. I'll do it after you.
Also whoever said I worked in any sort of creative field in which I'd have work to post.
Assumptions also for the fail.
Again, i don't think Jack's emotions are all that fragile. See that there, that was me getting back to the point of the discussion.
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LOL, that is all.
Morality was not the comparison being made. Epic fail.
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Morality was indeed one of the factors brought up regarding what consitutes a competency.
The epic fail is coming from you.
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Annnnnd which was not what Angry said in the post I just quoted. LOL, again.
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I have a feeling Jack's emotions aren't that fragile either.
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Wait, you mean he's not moved to tears by the multiple paragraphs of deathless prose I've composed to his downfall over the years?
*weeps*
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LOL.
This thread shows folks take all the negative talk about Jack as SRZ BIZNESS don't you know.
Don't you know not liking a Guy's communicative style and work ethic is the same as saying they are evil incarnate . . . oh wait.
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Top 20
It would seem that not everyone agrees he is the plague to end all plagues.
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Hitler and Stalin were easily among the top 20 most influential men in history, but they were still the plague to end all plagues. Not that I'm comparing Jack to murderers of millions upon millions of innocent people, but the point still stands
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And here was the post. In question. I'll leave for those to make of it what it will.
The response was again failure of comprehension.
Ofcourse like the poster i just responded to said "I've been known to not be right."
EDIT: Also I never addressed the stupidity of the top 20 list. Anyone who knows mmo history sees the problems with the order of that listing.
If they meant to say top 20 in no particular order, that's one thing.
But they didn't say that.
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Oh you did? you weren't supposed to, I said don't
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The anger is so strong. Jack take your sacred man virginity?
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*facepalm*
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It's ok to bury your head in your hands and weep. No one should have that taken from them.
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I know. Faith in an intelligent humanity is a terrible thing to lose.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.