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Heh, I've no illusions that I'm the first to suggest this. It seems so obvious... It makes me wonder why it's not been done already?
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Heh, I've no illusions that I'm the first to suggest this. It seems so obvious... It makes me wonder why it's not been done already?
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Parry.
Virtue:
Miserya - 50 EM/ELA Brute (Perma-shelved)
Adriana Rayne - 42 Katana/Dark Scrapper
Cyberpulse - 26 Super Strength/Willpower Brute
Steel Heart - 24 Invuln/Super Strength Tanker
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You know, the two melee classes seem to be defined as Tankers=power, Scrappers=finesse.
That makes me wonder why Tankers don't have access to Broad Sword, but do have access to Dual Blades? I mean, Dual Blades looks fast and precise, and has little sense of raw power. Sure, you could argue for finesse in Broad Sword, but it's really a power weapon.
In other words, when are we going to get Broad Sword for Tankers (and Brutes, for that matter)?
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There are a ton of things in this game that would make sense conceptually, but aren't likely to happen because it would break balance. Giving tanks Broadsword w/ Parry is one. Giving Scrappers Super Strength w/ Rage is another.
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I think this is one of those additions that sounds cool, but once tanks get access to it will be meh in short order.
BS shares the same bleh animations as mace/axe (& redraw), and even with all the buffs to weapons sets recently, you don't see them burning up the build requests around here.
I would rather have access to electric melee before BS personally.
I've got a Broadsword Scrapper and Axe Tanker, and I can see the similarities. Both share many animations and attack styles, cept the former has less knockback and more -def. And of course, Tankers sure as hell aren't getting Parry in its current state.
I wonder, what would be a good replacement for Parry?
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I've got a Broadsword Scrapper and Axe Tanker, and I can see the similarities. Both share many animations and attack styles, cept the former has less knockback and more -def. And of course, Tankers sure as hell aren't getting Parry in its current state.
I wonder, what would be a good replacement for Parry?
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Replace it with Flying Swords that Valkyrie has, but lowered damage.
Valkyrie
What if they simply made Broadsword weapon models available to the BattleAxe set? Tankers would still be using the Axe powers, but could have weapons that resembled Swords.
As for Parry, what's so special about it?
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As for Parry, what's so special about it?
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Stackable 15% melee/lethal defense buff - it would be +20% on Tanker mods. Oh, don't think you need heavy IOs to utilize it or anything; it double stacks out of the box.
Parry certainly helps make my BS/Inv scrapper that much more survivable. Yeah. they'd have to do something about Parry before bringing broadsword to Tanks.
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
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Rangle's right....this is fun.
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What about replacing it with Taunt? As a Tanker secondary, it would need Taunt...
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What about replacing it with Taunt? As a Tanker secondary, it would need Taunt...
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Scrapper sets already have a single target taunt called Confront - that's what would be replaced for Taunt.
how about a street fighting set with chains and brass knuckles? 
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how about a street fighting set with chains and brass knuckles?
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Hey! Careful there. No thread jackin! 
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
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Rangle's right....this is fun.
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As for Parry, what's so special about it?
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Stackable 15% melee/lethal defense buff - it would be +20% on Tanker mods. Oh, don't think you need heavy IOs to utilize it or anything; it double stacks out of the box.
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Yeah, with Speed Boost my scrapper alternates between double- and triple-stacking Parry. It's ugly. Even without the Speed Boost, I have a decent chance of taking down a Zeus Titan without getting hit even once.
Paragon City Search And Rescue
The Mentor Project
IMO the devs have not given broadsword to tankers because they are trying to figure out what to do with parry that will not offend scrappers.
*edit* Heh I should have read the thread, seems this point has allready been made, several times lol.
*readies fire extinguisher*
Scrappers get offended?
I doubt that...
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Scrappers get offended?
I doubt that...
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Don't they have to stop plowing through critters long enough to notice things like this......and team wipes? 
I don't think it's been proliferated yet because...
1) Tankers have Axe and Mace
2) If they did proliferate it as the first set, Tankers would of moaned alot about getting more Lethal Damage sets.
They've only gone one round of proliferation. I really don't think it's Parry keeping them from giving it to Tankers.
If Broadsword was ported over, without tweaking it's dmg to make up for Tankers lower dmg mods, Parry would likely be it's only saving grace.
I also wouldn't see why they would need to change the 15% Melee/Lethal Defense. But I guess they could. Still wouldn't see why they would though.
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
You know, the two melee classes seem to be defined as Tankers=power, Scrappers=finesse.
That makes me wonder why Tankers don't have access to Broad Sword, but do have access to Dual Blades? I mean, Dual Blades looks fast and precise, and has little sense of raw power. Sure, you could argue for finesse in Broad Sword, but it's really a power weapon.
In other words, when are we going to get Broad Sword for Tankers (and Brutes, for that matter)?