Going Back To i12 pvp petition?
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Akuma_Mishima,
Posted on: 2009-04-26 14:28 in Everything about PvP
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good.
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LOL at this.
You do realize that widows only existed for like half a year (or even less) before I13 came out, right? Also, you do realize that stalkers are just as effective in zones as they were before I13, right? And lastly, you do realize that doms buffing themselves with 4 accounts is still possible, exactly like before I13, right?
Just checking. The questions are rhetorical, btw. You've already shown that you don't know the facts.
The_Reactor and the Devs have similar responses. HMMM
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...And for someone to even make a comment like adapt in move on probably wasn't successful in pvp until i13. Or just can't understand the difference, from lack of pvping. And yes it's a shame when things have gotten so bad that the old way seems good in comparison.
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good. These are not the types of players that make good company on teams.
The players, like me, that love pvp, think all the complainers and whiners of old pvp are out to lunch. So, now that I've said my piece I'm going to RV and I'm going PWN me some stalkers...like I always do.
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lol a kheld with flurry can PWN some stalkers....like you always do...... l33tness......
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good.
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LOL at this.
You do realize that widows only existed for like half a year (or even less) before I13 came out, right? Also, you do realize that stalkers are just as effective in zones as they were before I13, right? And lastly, you do realize that doms buffing themselves with 4 accounts is still possible, exactly like before I13, right?
Just checking. The questions are rhetorical, btw. You've already shown that you don't know the facts.
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174 days so just under 6 months, good guess
and its especially funny that hes using villain ATs as his examples of what was OP in "old PvP"
/sign, only posting due to free weekend thingy. let me go back to ganking pve players. might be too late though. im sure they nabbed all they wanted in there now. so luring them back in to torture is now impossible. and putting more stuff they want in pvp zones only? never happen. so.......i guess it's too late for the pvp gankers to come back. what are the subs at in this game? still over 100,000?
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...And for someone to even make a comment like adapt in move on probably wasn't successful in pvp until i13. Or just can't understand the difference, from lack of pvping. And yes it's a shame when things have gotten so bad that the old way seems good in comparison.
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good. These are not the types of players that make good company on teams.
The players, like me, that love pvp, think all the complainers and whiners of old pvp are out to lunch. So, now that I've said my piece I'm going to RV and I'm going PWN me some stalkers...like I always do.
[/ QUOTE ]Even though you were pwnd for you sheer ignorance by a few pvp'rs after your stupid post, I'll add to it by clearing a few things up first while you were getting ran out of zones, and worrying about things like who's buffed. I was on the test server competing against some of the best pvp'rs who played the game, with my stalker of all things. You would not have killed my stalker I'm sorry just listening to your gibberish, you don't even sound like you'd have a clue how to kill a competent player. I also used my cor, my dom too during the ladder matches. I had a fort but i never transferred him to test my others were solid so i felt no need.
That being said every who's crying about i12 returning is speaking mostly from a game play standpoint, not once did you hear me mention a build in the tears. Dr is not a build, suppression is not a build, heal decay, mez resist, so on and so forth are not builds. I'll adapt to what ever the build requirement is but drastic game play changes is just not fun to deal with is all.
If my toon is blue in pve don't turn him yellow in pvp, keep me consistent, i don't want to play two games and or learn tactics for two games.
So continue being a noob i13 lover that doesn't even know why you like it versus the other or what's bad about it versus the other. And thinking that we are all upset about something as trivial as a build not working the same.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
http://ravens-wins.mybrute.com
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...And for someone to even make a comment like adapt in move on probably wasn't successful in pvp until i13. Or just can't understand the difference, from lack of pvping. And yes it's a shame when things have gotten so bad that the old way seems good in comparison.
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good. These are not the types of players that make good company on teams.
The players, like me, that love pvp, think all the complainers and whiners of old pvp are out to lunch. So, now that I've said my piece I'm going to RV and I'm going PWN me some stalkers...like I always do.
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Hmm 3 click stalkers? Any competent stalker would prolly look in your direction and you would die.
BTW anyone who died by a stalker only 3 clicking is doing it wrong....
PS transfer to triumph please, we need more farm targets that are blissfully inexperienced and ignorant
Hold on !!!
This was a very good read until page 6. Now its turned into a flame war.
BTW, I'm one of those PvPers that left the game due to mismanagement of PvP by NCSoft's "crew". I'm able to post again due to this Anniversary event going on & old accounts being activated again.
I read about the whole DR fiasco a couple months ago. Good Lord, you folks must have been red with anger over that BS !!!
I was hoping with a couple new Issues being released, that the PvP would be improved from where it was in I12, but so much for wishful thinking. And so much for me bringing back my 2 accounts. Well, at least we have CO to look forward to.
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Hold on !!!
This was a very good read until page 6. Now its turned into a flame war.
BTW, I'm one of those PvPers that left the game due to mismanagement of PvP by NCSoft's "crew". I'm able to post again due to this Anniversary event going on & old accounts being activated again.
I read about the whole DR fiasco a couple months ago. Good Lord, you folks must have been red with anger over that BS !!!
I was hoping with a couple new Issues being released, that the PvP would be improved from where it was in I12, but so much for wishful thinking. And so much for me bringing back my 2 accounts. Well, at least we have CO to look forward to.
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ive seen that orange avatar of your post there. your smart. lol.
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Posi also believed that certain AT's were unbeatable in PvP, so it shows that he really doesn't have too much of an idea of what he's talking about.
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Wow, which build did he think was unbeatable?
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I think most newbs back then that first step foot in a PvP environment feel that way.
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...And for someone to even make a comment like adapt in move on probably wasn't successful in pvp until i13. Or just can't understand the difference, from lack of pvping. And yes it's a shame when things have gotten so bad that the old way seems good in comparison.
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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good. These are not the types of players that make good company on teams.
The players, like me, that love pvp, think all the complainers and whiners of old pvp are out to lunch. So, now that I've said my piece I'm going to RV and I'm going PWN me some stalkers...like I always do.
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lolstalkers
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
Petitions are against forum rules nub.
I quit this game 165days ago (according to the free reactivation week screen) and even I know that.
We get it, I13 did nothing to encourage pvp. These forums are more dead than ever (I didn't think that was possible.)
Take what few dedicated pvpers you have left and try to enjoy what you still have, or be like me (you wish) and take your money elsewhere.
In the end that's the only 'petition' that actually gets results.
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In the end that's the only 'petition' that actually gets results.
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Unfortunately that won't even do it, because they'll say "oh, those people are gone, we don't have to cater to them anymore." And they won't revert out changes because that would be an admission of wrongdoing.
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Yep, when there was the mass exodus of players when I13 hit, they simply covered it up. Even though they clearly lost A LOT of profit in that week, they made a statement saying that subscriptions actually went up and everything was perfect.
So yeah....the only thing accomplished by cancelling is that you don't pay for this POS game anymore. But it will have zero effect on the actual game. I swear, if every single person quits except one, they'll make an official statement for that one person that everything is perfectly fine and subscriptions are at an all time high.
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Yep, when there was the mass exodus of players when I13 hit, they simply covered it up. Even though they clearly lost A LOT of profit in that week, they made a statement saying that subscriptions actually went up and everything was perfect.
So yeah....the only thing accomplished by cancelling is that you don't pay for this POS game anymore. But it will have zero effect on the actual game. I swear, if every single person quits except one, they'll make an official statement for that one person that everything is perfectly fine and subscriptions are at an all time high.
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the games great, just the devs dont get what PvP is, Positron is a paper dice roller and Castles and accountant
It matters not, COx can survive pissing off its few PvPers because its such a small segment for them due to being poorly implemented, ignored and then bludgeoned to death by someone who just doesnt get it.
CO and DCU will hurt COx bad, when a 5 year niche is about to be broken open and developers annoy any segment of the community, it doesnt bode well
moderator 08 why ya gotta be a player hater?
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Petitions are against the Official Message Forum Rules and Guidelines. As long as this stays a discussion however, I have no problem with discussion of the PvP changes.
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3. The extreme skill cap that PvP had. Lets face it, the players who practiced PvP were a whole lot better than the ones that didn't and thats not right! Now the training wheels are on and its like someone put saltpeter into the community's drink
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got news for you. Yea some people stand a better chance at wandering in a pvp zone and doing better than before, The people that are good in pvp now not only know this new system, but the old one as well, and are still owning it up, just with a different build.
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skill >> build still but some of these changes are plain brain dead (auto-resists, damage "balancing" (lol flurry), the option to turn off DR but not the resists, etc.)
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
I was fooling around in the zone last night, with some buddies and i figured out what gets me the most. I believe i can live with most of the new crap but mez resist is so irritating, almost unbearable a stalker with a mag 3 hold and run up to a wp tank and hold them through SoW, no stacking needed, just run up use soul storm, you spin with your cape folded.
Makes doms kinda useless, why be a dom when i can get the same result with a rupter or a stalker? The old way of needing to stack mez to score a hold actually made sense. I have 10 mez protection so you need to stack past my protection to hold me, simple yet good. And the good thing was if held all wasnt lost you could take a bf or a series of bf's to overcome the hold. Now i don't know how we got here this is not good imo.
The only thing that needed changing was make it so a toon like say a emp can't render a dom or troller useless, i would have made cm give like say a flat rate of 10-15 protection per cast one casting per customer, problem solved.
The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin
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Positron's comments on PvP
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On PvP:
04-28-2009 18:21:19 [Local] Delenda: any new in Pvp? a capture the Flag mode for exemple? new arena modes?
04-28-2009 18:21:39 [Local] Positron: We're working on some new arena modes, no idea when they will be done though
04-28-2009 18:21:47 [Local] Sunblushed Horizon: Can I just ask with the amount of problems that this new PvP has caused and the amount of begging asking for a i12 pvp re-roll with some additions from now. what is the devs current view on (sorry for personal opinion) the disgrace pvp currently is
04-28-2009 18:22:18 [Local] Positron: We love the way PVP currently is
04-28-2009 18:27:14 [Local] Sunblushed Horizon: how about not taking it from a devs point of view i now i12 pvp had its problems but this new pvp system has even more
04-28-2009 18:27:19 [Local] Sunblushed Horizon: how is that an imporvment
04-28-2009 18:27:51 [Local] Positron: I think the old PVP system was severly flawed, and the new one is still flawed, but far less so.
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More proof the devs don't know what the [censored] they're talking about.
You know someone is bad at PvP when they add stalkers to their list of complaints.
They were the one AT you didn't need to give much consideration to once you got even a minor amount of experience in the game.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict