Panacea: Chance for Healing


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So, has anyone got this new IO or had a chance to play with it? Just wondering whether it's worth putting up some bids for it for my /Regen character because if it beats a Heal IO in Fast Healing on average, I want it.


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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon. ATM heals for 65 points every few seconds. Also gives 7.5 endurance which I like a lot. In pvp gives the same bonuses and the numina proc, which of course gets cut down from DR.

Overall great on regen toons and toons with endurance problems. I plan to slot on my 50's that still have major endurance issues.


 

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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon.

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If you're in PvP, it's straight +regen, slightly better than a Miracle.

If you're in PvE, it is off the melee healing table, which does happen to be be a ratio of your AT's HP. So it will heal more on a Tanker than a Defender, for example.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon.

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If you're in PvP, it's straight +regen, slightly better than a Miracle.

If you're in PvE, it is off the melee healing table, which does happen to be be a ratio of your AT's HP. So it will heal more on a Tanker than a Defender, for example.

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Figured as much on the heal, since I only have it one toon. Wasn't gonna toss facts around w/o seeing it myself. Besides most of my toons are pve as are most peoples toons. The 7.5 endurance every few seconds already makes this worth enough to slot.


 

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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon.

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If you're in PvP, it's straight +regen, slightly better than a Miracle.

If you're in PvE, it is off the melee healing table, which does happen to be be a ratio of your AT's HP. So it will heal more on a Tanker than a Defender, for example.

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Figured as much on the heal, since I only have it one toon. Wasn't gonna toss facts around w/o seeing it myself. Besides most of my toons are pve as are most peoples toons. The 7.5 endurance every few seconds already makes this worth enough to slot.

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Is the Brute in question level 50? Cause I punched those numbers in for a level 50 and got 4.33% of your base HP.


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Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon.

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If you're in PvP, it's straight +regen, slightly better than a Miracle.

If you're in PvE, it is off the melee healing table, which does happen to be be a ratio of your AT's HP. So it will heal more on a Tanker than a Defender, for example.

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Figured as much on the heal, since I only have it one toon. Wasn't gonna toss facts around w/o seeing it myself. Besides most of my toons are pve as are most peoples toons. The 7.5 endurance every few seconds already makes this worth enough to slot.

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Is the Brute in question level 50? Cause I punched those numbers in for a level 50 and got 4.33% of your base HP.

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yep 50 and he's just under 2.3k hp


 

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got it slotted on my brute. Not sure if the heal rate is based off his hp though, only have it on one toon.

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If you're in PvP, it's straight +regen, slightly better than a Miracle.

If you're in PvE, it is off the melee healing table, which does happen to be be a ratio of your AT's HP. So it will heal more on a Tanker than a Defender, for example.

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Figured as much on the heal, since I only have it one toon. Wasn't gonna toss facts around w/o seeing it myself. Besides most of my toons are pve as are most peoples toons. The 7.5 endurance every few seconds already makes this worth enough to slot.

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Is the Brute in question level 50? Cause I punched those numbers in for a level 50 and got 4.33% of your base HP.

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yep 50 and he's just under 2.3k hp

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It's based off of your Base HP in all likelihood - Entropic Chaos was.


Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
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Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.

 

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It's based off of your Base HP in all likelihood - Entropic Chaos was.

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It's based off a table who's values are 10% of your AT's base HP at any given level. So yes, it works as if off of your base HP.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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It's based off of your Base HP in all likelihood - Entropic Chaos was.

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It's based off a table who's values are 10% of your AT's base HP at any given level. So yes, it works as if off of your base HP.

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Kinda lame in that matter, wish it was off your cap HP. Seeing as my brutes willpower, it would be worth more.


 

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It's just how all self heals work. They only recently gained the ability to do things based on entities' HP. (Castle was playing around with it for Stalker AS for a while, and now Cimeroran Surgeons have it.)


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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It's just how all self heals work. They only recently gained the ability to do things based on entities' HP. (Castle was playing around with it for Stalker AS for a while, and now Cimeroran Surgeons have it.)

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Remember Stalker AS on Test? A team of 8 just simultaneously spiking each member of the Freedom Phalanx for 5000 a piece? Good times.


Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.

 

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Do you see the green numbers over your character's head while getting healed from this IO in PvE? Also, is it unique?


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Do you see the green numbers over your character's head while getting healed from this IO in PvE?

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I don't know and wonder it myself.

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Also, is it unique?

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Yes.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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I have this unique slotted in health on test.

Green numbers over your head in PvE confirmed.

My Blaster was getting 65s.


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Green numbers over your head in PvE confirmed.

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That's sort of disappointing to me. Not unexpected, though.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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I have this unique slotted in health on test.

Green numbers over your head in PvE confirmed.

My Blaster was getting 65s.

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Well that's a slight disappointment on my part, I assumed it was based of base HP. My brute gets 65 as well


 

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I have a question about this IO:

Does it work like a Miracle/Numina where it has to be refreshed every 120 seconds, or is it more like the KB protection IOs, which are always active regardless of whether the power is used or not?


 

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It's actually like the Performance Shifter Proc, at least in PvE.

Here's what it does.
[*] +20% regeneration for 120s, much like a Miracle or Numina. (PvP only)[*] A 20% chance to give you a mag 0.67 heal (PvE only)[*] A 20% chance to give you 7.5 endurance

It's the bottom two that work like a Perf Shifter.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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[*] +20% regeneration for 120s, much like a Miracle or Numina. (PvP only)[*] A 20% chance to give you a mag 0.67 heal (PvE only)[*] A 20% chance to give you 7.5 endurance

It's the bottom two that work like a Perf Shifter.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm going to assume you mean a regen tissue unique instead of miracle, which is recovery, and its the second time you've attributed regen to it. I am fuzzy though in case you do mean miracle, in PvP do you get a rec bonus or a chance for +end still? The chance for +end, right?


 

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I believe he means "buffs you for 120s", in the same way that Miracle and Numina do, not that the buff is the same thing.


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I believe he means "buffs you for 120s", in the same way that Miracle and Numina do, not that the buff is the same thing.

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Indeed.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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It's actually like the Performance Shifter Proc, at least in PvE.

Here's what it does.
[*] +20% regeneration for 120s, much like a Miracle or Numina. (PvP only)[*] A 20% chance to give you a mag 0.67 heal (PvE only)[*] A 20% chance to give you 7.5 endurance

It's the bottom two that work like a Perf Shifter.

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I'm certain I read earlier that the Panacea's +regen was based, at least partially, on the AT's heal modifier.

Is this no longer, or never has been, the case?


 

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+regen is never based on the heal modifier. How many HP/sec it grants, however, is based off of your actual max HP, which happens to be a multiple of the self heal table barring bonus HP.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Any idea how much HP per tick this would give on a Tanker in PvE, and how much regen it might offer in PvP?


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Based on what people are saying it sounds like 65 hp a tick in pve and 20% regen in pvp so depends on how much hp you have