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Anyone else got an idea?
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Hate to be at all snarky, but yeah, maybe a few folks have had some ideas -- please use Search, or at least look over the last 50 threads, or look in on the Lady-Jade's Power Suggestion Box (stickied in this section) at the Ranged sets. These threads get started up about once a week...
On a separate note, I'd recommend against the melee attack in the set, even just one. Even mentioning it in your posts is virtually guaranteed to generate a significant amount of vitriol.
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Instead of dual pistols, can we have dual plasma cannons?
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Anyone else got an idea?
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Hate to be at all snarky, but yeah, maybe a few folks have had some ideas -- please use Search, or at least look over the last 50 threads, or look in on the Lady-Jade's Power Suggestion Box (stickied in this section) at the Ranged sets. These threads get started up about once a week...
On a separate note, I'd recommend against the melee attack in the set, even just one. Even mentioning it in your posts is virtually guaranteed to generate a significant amount of vitriol.
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eh whatever happens happens.
And while I know there's other posts with suggestions, the only real way to get someone to look at your suggestion is to make a new topic and put it out there. Because most people tend not to look at page 30's suggestions. 
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
I don't see the need for a pistol whip...we can just add animation to brawl ^_^.
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I don't see the need for a pistol whip...we can just add animation to brawl ^_^.
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This is true!
What about something like:
To the Knees - Low damage knock down attack with a slight (relatively low duration) -speed effect. Caster aims at targets knees/legs knocking them to the ground.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
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My take on doing pistols I guess it a little different. Rather than various ways to shoot the same gun, have it be a rare super guy gun, with lot of different ammo.
cryo bullets, napalm bullets, spent uranium bullets (knockdown?), flechette bullets (cone attack), tracer bullets (accuracy bonus) high explosive bullets (aoe, targeted), taser bullets (low damage, stun), magnum bullets (your standard tier one attack),poison tipped, and of course, a nuclear bullet as the nuke.
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My take on doing pistols I guess it a little different. Rather than various ways to shoot the same gun, have it be a rare super guy gun, with lot of different ammo.
cryo bullets, napalm bullets, spent uranium bullets (knockdown?), flechette bullets (cone attack), tracer bullets (accuracy bonus) high explosive bullets (aoe, targeted), taser bullets (low damage, stun), magnum bullets (your standard tier one attack),poison tipped, and of course, a nuclear bullet as the nuke.
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No thanks. I want a gun set that isnt a swiss army knife. I want a pistol set thats about shooting pistols.
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My take on doing pistols I guess it a little different. Rather than various ways to shoot the same gun, have it be a rare super guy gun, with lot of different ammo.
cryo bullets, napalm bullets, spent uranium bullets (knockdown?), flechette bullets (cone attack), tracer bullets (accuracy bonus) high explosive bullets (aoe, targeted), taser bullets (low damage, stun), magnum bullets (your standard tier one attack),poison tipped, and of course, a nuclear bullet as the nuke.
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No thanks. I want a gun set that isnt a swiss army knife. I want a pistol set thats about shooting pistols.
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Personally, if I were going to make a new set like this, I'd set it up like a ranged Dual Blades. The special effects are all based on specific combos (varying from Knockdown/back/up, debuffs, stuns, extra damage via bleeding, etc.).
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Pistol Whip - A close combat power that does some damage with a high chance of stun
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But.... the bullets go into the gun..
Ok, I'm sorry, but if no one is gonna say it "I" will.
If you're using a 'gun'/pistol to "whip" someone, that's definately NOT the weapon of choice for you. If a bad guy is getting into melee range and you have to "pistol whip' them you either A) Should NOT be handling a firearm, B) Need your eyes checked, C) Need to learn to shoot, or D) See suggestion A.
You have a 'pistol' no one should be getting into melee range. PERIOD!
Yeah, I can't really see the point of having a melee attack built into a ranged power pool.
I mean, look at the assault rifle. It's a gun, it's for shooting, when something gets too close you can still use Brawl and smack the thing with the butt of your gun. Which, since you're smacking it with the butt of your gun instead of your hand, still looks cooler. I figure hitting Brawl with the dual pistols equipped would just result in what would look like a pistol whip, just like it already does for the pistoling Masterminds, yeah?
What I don't get is why this isn't a power already. I mean, of all the mastermind ranged attacks, this is the only one that isn't made into its own power pool, am I wrong? I suppose it could seem a little redundant with Assault Rifle blasters already existing, but we've got Katana, Sword, and Knives scrappers. Doesn't seem too strange.
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Pistol Whip - A close combat power that does some damage with a high chance of stun
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But.... the bullets go into the gun..
Ok, I'm sorry, but if no one is gonna say it "I" will.
If you're using a 'gun'/pistol to "whip" someone, that's definately NOT the weapon of choice for you. If a bad guy is getting into melee range and you have to "pistol whip' them you either A) Should NOT be handling a firearm, B) Need your eyes checked, C) Need to learn to shoot, or D) See suggestion A.
You have a 'pistol' no one should be getting into melee range. PERIOD!
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But this is a game, not reality first off. Second.. Looking at the Veats who carry rifles they have a rifle butt, so it'd be something along the same line as that.
Also, I've already put out my idea to change it anyway upon agreeing with someone else.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
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*looks at the OP's post count*
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What does your post count have to do with anything? What was the purpose of your post here?
If you don't like what I have to say please leave comments with some substance. I'd rather not get into this type of thing with you again.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
i think what he was saying was you should know enough by now to not post something like this when there are 2 a week posted. and you should also know enough to search. so far i havent really seen any difference in what people ideas of a dual pistol set would be so there really is no need to continually post new threads about this.
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i think what he was saying was you should know enough by now to not post something like this when there are 2 a week posted. and you should also know enough to search. so far i havent really seen any difference in what people ideas of a dual pistol set would be so there really is no need to continually post new threads about this.
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Maybe, but like I said the only way to get people to read YOUR suggestion is to post it in it's own thread as the first post. Because each post after the first generally not given the attention the first post is given.
If you want proof of it, go look at any thread that someone has posted something in post one then by post 5 has completely changed, but then posts 6-10 are still talking about post one.
If my post count is supposed to, "make me know better" than I feel I've done a good job in knowing how to get my ideas SEEN.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
and we are all getting sick of seeing new dual pistol threads pop up 2 times a week or so. go back and read the rules about posting. i wouldn't be supprised if the mods get so sick of seeing these threads pop up that people start getting banned for it. if you make an actual attempt at posting in lady jades power suggestion thread, you might be supprised.
in fact my suggetsion is for people to never post about dual pistols again. i think half of the pages in this section are about dual pistols. the dev's know we would like them. now stop posting about them.
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and we are all getting sick of seeing new dual pistol threads pop up 2 times a week or so. go back and read the rules about posting. i wouldn't be supprised if the mods get so sick of seeing these threads pop up that people start getting banned for it. if you make an actual attempt at posting in lady jades power suggestion thread, you might be supprised.
in fact my suggetsion is for people to never post about dual pistols again. i think half of the pages in this section are about dual pistols. the dev's know we would like them. now stop posting about them.
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Not sure where the rules thread says I can't post my suggestions in the suggestion thread. Whether people are tired of seeing them or not.
My suggestion would be to skip a thread that says, "the dual pistol" whatever if you're tired of reading it.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
see, if you post in an already started thread it gets pushed to the top. people will read it. people will discuss it. people will get sick and tired of seeing the same thing posted in several threads week after week. if you havent read the rules, go back and read them. ever wonder why you dont see jdub posting these anymore? seriously, use the SEARCH. it is your friend.
Here's a link to the Rules thread:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....=0#Post11414357
I'm not sure if I'm not reading it right or something, but I don't see where it tells me I have to use the search function and can't post my own ideas.
I have no idea who jdub is, nor do I care.
I use the search function when I've got something to look for. Once again, when threads get pushed to the top usually it's STILL the original post that gets the most attention in many cases.
Perhaps you need to go back and read the rules, as I can see a few that you seem to be in violation of.
As I said before if you can't post constructive criticism of my ideas because you are "sick of it." Then use that wonderful auto ignore feature that your brain is capable of setting up (IE. Bypass it).
If nobody else has any constructive criticism of the thread than I'll happily let it die. Doesn't matter to me.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
really, it doesnt say you have to search? look a couple threads up from this in this section. its called how to search: read this before you post. and fyi, if you make a new post in an existing thread when people see it and click on the thread link they will go to the first new post in the thread, not start from page one. why you ask? because most if not all have already read the existing posts and would like to read the new posts to keep following the discussion.
i can agree with you on letting it die.
/sarcasm: everytime someone posts about dual pistols a dev looses a piece of their sanity. /end sarcasm.
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Here's a link to the Rules thread:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....=0#Post11414357
I'm not sure if I'm not reading it right or something, but I don't see where it tells me I have to use the search function and can't post my own ideas.
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It says it right there.
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Spam is considered to be repetitive posting of the same topic . . .
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If that's not good enough here's what Moderator 08 said in the thread titled So, is it time for the weekly Dual Pistols thread?
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Spam and lobbying are uncool. Don't do it.
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Hope those links and quotes help answer your question about the forum rules.
Oh and here's Memphis_Bill's How to search the forums guide
That should assist you when you use the search feature.
In technicality, Sharker_Quint is right. There were 2-3 dual pistol threads last week alone. Posting a fourth is considered spam, which by CoH Forum Mods, defined as:
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My emphasis.
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Blasted, Forbin beat me to it.
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In technicality, Sharker_Quint is right. There were 2-3 dual pistol threads last week alone. Posting a fourth is considered spam, which by CoH Forum Mods, defined as:
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My emphasis.
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I don't mind sharing credit. 
i have no qualms about sharing the credit either. lol
I know people have been up in arms about dual pistols... ok bad pun!
There's been proponents of it being a scrapper set (due to the shorter range). But many feel like it's a ranged set.. It should be ranged.
I'm in the second boat. So seeing that every set has it's good and bad, I was thinking, what if Pistols were set at a shorter range (I mean a rifle is going to hit further than a pistol). And lower damage, because MOST pistols that are going to have a fully automatic (like empty clips displays)
But the positives of the set are
Increased accuracy - like all the weapon based sets
Reduced Recharge times - Make the powers all recharge faster than most of the others.
slightly Reduced Endurance cost
Basically it'd be almost like a "claws" for blasters/corruptors. Quick animating, fast recharging set.
Additionally the pistols would offer like a "pistol whip" close combat attack.
Let's see for powers here's what I'd do:
Pistols - Same as MM
Dual Wield - Same as MM
Empty Clips - Same as MM
Sharp Shooter - With one arm down and the other up aiming carefully the caster targets the vital areas of a target for increased damage (the standard higher damage Tier 4)
Frenzy - Aim replacement. Works like Follow up. Caster shoots pistols one after the other for 4 hits (not terribly high damage due to "bad accuracy" (note this isnt' the shots missing, just the concept of the character not aiming for vitals). So it'd be like, Shoot left gun, shoot right gun, shoot left gun, shoot right gun which gives a 10s build up
Hail of Bullets - The AoE Attack, but this time it's not ranged.. It'd be PbAoE. I'm not sure how to make it's costs offset. Maybe lower end cost than most AoE attacks, better accuracy? Anyway.. The character would do a 360 turn (think movies) where they have both arms facing out (so they look like a T) and shoot everything.. Maybe the thing to bring this power up would be to make it one of the higher damage AoE attacks based on everyone being hit twice?
Pistol Whip - A close combat power that does some damage with a high chance of stun
Point Blank - Low range on this one, highest single target damage however, character shoots one of the guns 4 times real close to the target. Think putting a gun close to someone's gut and pulling the trigger a few times.
Magnum - A very different T9.. It's a toggle. It uses some End, but in doing so you use upgraded pistols. They allow all your attacks to do significantly higher damage, but at the expense of recharge (not as bad a granite but slowing down the recharge time a fair amount) due to the increased recoil.
What do you think?
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster