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THat was kinda what I was thinking as well!

Thank you guys for all the info. I actually am kinda glad that Elegost mis-read my statement, I need to go back and check my build. Currently without anything in my alpha slot I've got a perma DP build.
But now it's sounding like I can tweak some things a bit more and be even more impressive results.
If I can get the spirtual stuff my hasten will only be down about 3 sec.. which seems like forever compared to my perma hasten ill/rad.. but she needs it more I guess.

WIth hasten up my instant healing is up in 196 sec, with incarnate I'd be 50/50 roughly.

Here's what i'm working with (right now on server, minus the incarnate stuff). If anyone sees a glaring flaw I'm missing please let me know!

*note Supermax* after much deliberation and prior to reading any more posts it turns out I picked the same stuff you thought were interesting it appears.

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White Valkyrie: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Achilles-ResDeb%(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(9), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(13), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(5), EndMod-I(5)
Level 6: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Parry -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal(11), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Hover -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(31), Winter-ResSlow(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Integration -- Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(17), Mrcl-Heal(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+(40)
Level 18: Whirling Sword -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37), LkGmblr-Def(39)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 24: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 26: Disembowel -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(27), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Dam%(43)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(45), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 32: Head Splitter -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(33), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(36)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-Build%(42), GSFC-ToHit(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(43), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(46)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 47: Weave -- S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-EndRdx(48), S'dpty-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Ion Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Total Core Conversion
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)

No Mirey Nova Love?
I have never tried the human form blasts in replacement for the nova version.. Hrm..

Oh and your net End Recovery is a smidge higher (with the +end rec of forms you should be sitting pretty.. But conserve energy is kept just incase (I like it in my builds)

Oh yeah forgot I dropped a chance for build up into nova bolt since it'll be spammed the most of all your nova attacks.

Good idea on the slot the KB protection/winters gift.. probably the gift works best in dwarf step as that's where I'd most often be and activate it.

AS for Decimation vs Entropic Chaos.. I like Entropic simply because of the chance for self heal. Which gives my nova form (on an attack I'll be spamming a lot) a chance to heal a tiny bit.
But I can certainly see the +hp vs +regen!

This is true.. But for that alpha strike you could also black dwarf it.. Mire them, then switch to human mode hit eclipse and get off a gravity well while you've got the mire going (or GW then eclipse).
I agree though that the shield does offer a little utility vs. orbiting death, as there's really no reason (other than to look cool), to turn on OD

Good thing i've got my own office.. :P
So after reading the whole thing, I've gone and made some of my adjustments.. moved things around a whole bunch too.

I think this build says, "I'm an MFing Warshade" appropriately. Saw a few +rech bonuses missing from my build.. as well as removed some slots and such (especially now that we have stamina), so I can perma hasten but only by .4 s.. so Maybe I should consider more? Though I can't figure out how without purples.

That being said I think I'll work toward dropping purples (after I hit 50) in:
Sunless Mire, Gravity Well, Gravitic Emanation, Unchain Essence, and Black Dwarf Strike.. Of course that PROBABLY will never happen.. but it gives me things to build for post 50 should the chance arrive. (doing so lowers my hasten to 111.84s.. again not going to happen but goals!!

Here's my MFing Warshade build... :-D

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Void Seductress Triform: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravimetric Snare -- Acc-I(A)
Level 4: Orbiting Death -- M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 10: Starless Step -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A), Zephyr-ResKB(50)
Level 16: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- P'Shift-End%(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), ImpArm-ResDam(21), ResDam-I(27)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(48), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(48), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(50)
Level 28: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Unchain Essence -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(31), Dmg-I(31), Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), RechRdx-I(34), Dmg-I(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Acc-I(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Range-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Entrpc-Heal%(43)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(11), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Heal-I(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(27), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(45), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(46), Mocking-Rchg(50)

Oh trust me.. I printed it out already.. :P
I plan to read it either at lunch or whilst riding the train home this evening.

My build right now is a mess.. I mean its a usable mess.. But definitely has areas of improvement especially I think in terms of slot efficiency for high recharge.. Should I get through the guide by lunch perhaps I can whip together a modified build later. The current one is old... very old.. The only reason it's got stamina is because I didn't take it and mids added it itself. :P

Welcome back!
I think it's somewhat hard to say exactly what you can expect with that particular combo. Not to say people aren't sitting at level 50 already, but there probably aren't the ton of people sitting at 50 to really lend a hand. Or if they're at 50 they're too busy playing vs talking in the forums.

I enjoy KM so far. I'll be interested to see how my trip to 50 is.

I have met CoH side a KM/Regen and played with. He generally did well, he was overwhelmed when too many people attacked him. But I did pvp him with my bs/regen to see how it compared..
It was a strong PVP set it seemed. He broke through my stun protection for like 1 second every now and then. So that was neat to see. Of course in PVP the added mitigation that I got with bs's parry (that I'd normally have gotten in pve) was shot due to his almost 200% accuracy.

But it seems like KM is a good set from what I can tell so far!

Also! give shields a try.. Many feel they have become the king of the scrapper defense hill.

Sorry I think I may have said it wrong.. Most stealth powers you get a portion of the defense cut when you attack or whatever.
I was just looking to see if that portion is always half.

Also.. Printed out your guide to read at lunch and play around with!

I did not take hover.. That is a very true statement on hover vs Gi.. I'll definitely take a lok at your guide! I didn't know it was out there..

You said when SI supresses it goes to half it's value. Is that true for all toggle invisibilities? This question is sorta unrelated since I'm thinking of a energy Armor brute's Energy cloak and how it suppresses and figure you'd know.

What?? I agree with you that Regen is better in levels 1-20 and state the reasons why, even pointing out where the problems with willpower are which would make the ride 1-20 easier defensively.. And I am willing bet that your +regen at low levels is not so astounding that it's game breakingly easy to get through levels 1-20..
And honestly the added regeneration from things like integration means a heck of a lot more when enemies are hitting you less often (there's a big difference in how quick things attack in the low levels to later in the game) and their likelyhood to hit you.. so yes.. natural regeneration in the low levels is great for a scrapper..

Hell playing a SR in the low levels is helish because you're always out of end and the defense never seems to work.. But late level SR blooms to be one of the best (same with shields) and regen does not.

But, the fact of the matter is it's the quick recovery that gives the tools to make levels 1-20 easier for a regen since you can spam more attacks. The same way you say I'm failing to see the offensive mitigation.. Regen clickable recharge dependent heals for mitigation.. and regular regen. As I've pointed out you seem to undervalue +regen vs +res.

Personally I'm insulted by your "rainbow and unicorn land" comment about willpower when i'm merely agreeing with the struggles of willpower being MORE dependent on Regen as mitigation in the early levels..

You point out that I make the argument about clickies not being recharged frequently enough.. Well levels 1-20 you certainly aren't firing them off once every 20 seconds.. so no they aren't fequently enough.. Even Dull pain is not going to be up enough to be reliable in 1-20.. so your mitigation is through killing..

I do not undervalue the natural regen.. you apparently undervalue resistance..
Let's look at this way..

I'm fighting bad guys that hit for 100 s/l damage. I can get 35% resistance to s/l with a resistance based level 50 character (that should be easy as it's 3 level 50 SOs with no outside help from any other pool)


And I've got a regen scrapper that can heal and for sake of this argument we'll pretend I've got permanent DP with 3 level 50 SO's and FH with 3 level 50 So's and Int with 3 level 50 SOs. that gives 43.6 hp/s lets be generous and say 44.

Now lets say the average bad guy is attacking once every 3 seconds for 100 s/l a shot.

1 Bad guy:
Resistance based: 100 damage - 35 reduced = net damage 75
Regeneration Based: 100 Damage - 130.8 = Net damage 0 (we've healed more than he can dish in 3 sec)

Add a second guy:
Resist: 200 damage - 70 (each attack was reduced 35%) = Net damage 130
Regen: 200 Damage - 130.8 (we don't heal anymore over 3 seconds) = Net Damage 69

Add a third guy because lets face it this game is all about mobs of people beating us down.
Resist: 300 damage - 105 = Net 195
Regen: 300 - 130.8 = 169.2

See how we're creeping up? Certainly Regen isn't horrible, but let me remind you I'm comparing this to fire melee's resistance without any other help.. SO lets keep going

4th guy:
Resist: 400 damage - 140 = Net 260
Regen: 400- 130.8 = 269.2

So now we're at a 4th guy who's hitting us (not unreasonable to expect that) and we're under performing fire..

I wonder what would happen if we were doing ITF and jumping into a group of 10 guys (something i've seen SR and shield do quite frequently)

Resist: 1000 Damage - 350 resisted = Net 650 damage
Regen: 1000 Damage - 130.8 (still not regen'ing anymore) = Net Damage 869.2

Sure we can pop Instant healing.. But there's my argument for +rech tehre.. it's on such a long timer that sometimes it's just not up. Lower the REcharge or make recharge debuff part of the regen set. Heck even with instant healing in that last example pushing our regen to 114.7/s (which I won't argue IH is a KEY part of the regen Scrapper's defense):

Regen : 1000 Damage - 344.1 = Net 655.9 damage.

EVEN with Instant healing up which is NOT a toggle (it's a power that's up 90 seconds a shot and has HUGE cool down even when building for perma DP) you're STILL taking more damage every 3 sec than a fire scrapper to s/l.. Yet he's had to devote 2 slots and one power for that level of s/l resist.

Certainly the Regen scrapper's defensive abilities are standard through all types of damage (toxic hurts as much as fire which hurts as much as psi thanks to the regen), which is nice. But regen itself needs something.. I'm ok with taking more damage as long as the powers I'm banking on being there to mitigate (Mog, instant healing, and recon) are not slowed down on their recharge.

I understand a stalker regen only has more problems than a regen scrap simply because of the hp limit (DP means a lot more for a regen scrap than it does for a regen stalker). But similar statements can be made with any stalk to scrap. But if Regen gets re-evaluated for a scrap you'd assume it'd also get reevaluated for a stalker.. just like invuln got looked at for tanks.. and scraps.. and brutes..
But still stalkers have plenty of outside mitigation thanks to their primary.. Assassin strike the biggest target kill it first.. and if there are problems hit placate. But stalkers will STILl suffer the same downfalls with regen (if hit with -rech).

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not trying to insult you or your thoughts, but provide evidence for why I feel this way.

What good are the builds going to do you that my explanation on why regen is not as valuable as +def and +rech? In the view of the forum they are both numbers.
I mean afterall you're still going to see one showin more +hp/s and one showing all the powers firing off more often as well as you getting hit less..
But the build is not going to translate to showing you in game.

Why don't YOU make a build to show me that +regen is more important than other things you could fit like +rech or +regen? I'm not the one that needs convincing on the power of +def and +rech.
And you sir certainly having 15 50's certainly must understand everything there is to know.
Please.. do post your uber spines/regen.
Then perhaps I'll show you how to make it better.


100% agree! IF you CAN fit it in on a Regen go for it. If you can't.. it's either a) concept reasons or b) because you've figured out other things that mitigate better than 5 hp/s.

Yeah in the build I was planning I'm looking for GI to be a place holder for an LOTG. I think I've got CJ too I need to go back and check.

Thank you sir! most appreciated!

Recharge debuff is a bigger stalker issue than scrap?? How? you get added mitigation with a scrapper with placate and the ability to hide..

Yes but a /elec has the mitigation of resistance based armor which is just as effective for each person attacking them (IE 3 people damaging a /elec all have to deal with the resistive armor). Regen does not have that.. If one on one someone can overcome the regen rate of a scrapper without the heals you've essentially "lost your damage resistance." and now only have the heals to rely on.. Regens have MORE heals, but what good are they when they are all down? Ever play a /regen who's recon was used, dp, was used and IH is down from a previous encounter.. sure recon is 15 sec away from recharging.. doesn't do you any good when you're at half life or lower and you defense is in negatives and you've got almost no resistance.. At least with /elec you've got resistances helping you when your heal is down. That's an important thing to take into consideration.. when all heals are down (which can happen) a /regen has only their native regeneration to help them as opposed to resistance or defensive based armors to help them.

Yeah you can do that.. But unless you have a high recharge on DP, it may not always be available same goes for mog and recon. It's happened to me plenty where NONE of my heals are up.. Does it happen everytime I play? No.. Does it happen when I'm fighting a real tough crowd and I get a -rech.. YES..

Keep in mind that IH being up doesn't mean you're automatically garunteed to live.. i've hit it with like 1/3 life left and still got hit hard enough to die.. Why? Because even at 150hp/s someone in one second nailed me for more hp than I had left.. with no resistance to reduce it Regen went down.

RotP is a great power when you die.. that being said you shouldn't have to bank on dying.. But fine I can see the merit in building a build with it. It has the utility of res, with knock down and disorient as well as an invulnerable time (heal up re-toggle).

Revive is not the same.. a) chances are if I died my heals weren't up. B) there's no untouchable component c)there's nothing stoping the mob that was beating on me from turning around right when I get up.. Kinda like using a wakie without the stun (and more health).

Again.. Dull pain is a great power however it's not like without IO's you can easily make it
permanent so there will be 60+ seconds (without a rech debuff) where it's down in most cases. Again being that it's a form of mitigation that's supposed to compare to +def or +resistance when you can't use it as a heal (used it to absorb the alpha) or you're unfortunately in that in between time you're left "shield less."

Instant healing.. 90s that's a good duration.. But even with ridiculous hp/s (I can get in the 150's) you can STILL die. All it takes is a EB or AV that can hit you pretty hard every few seconds.. It's not uncommon to have a slew of people around you and still find IH on it's own not allowing you to survive.. It's a great power, I love IH.. But for every 90s it's up it's down an extra (with 3 rech red) 236.5s. It would be equivalent to some resistance based armor to me if you either a) turn it back to a toggle with some lower +rech numbers, or b) lower the native recharge time.. a lot.. so it can be run a bit more often.

But the thing is Fire and electric BOTH offer resistances that offset the fact that when the power recharge is neutered due to -rech and you can't heal. Regen offers the measly +regen that is great vs. one character (who doesn't hit hard) but is not usually help full against higher levels and EB's and AV's.. Even conned minions maybe.. But not above that in large groups.
IT does NOT hurt Fire and Electric more.. not until I see some +def or +res in Regen. Regen RELIES ON CLICK POWERS to get most of it's survivability.. Even if the powers have a longish duration. You may understand it better if /elec and /fire had their armors on 90s recharge with a duration that you can JUST overlap if you play with IO's otherwise in between time you need to rely on the passive resistance buffs.. Because THAT is Regen. IH, DP, MOG are our armors.. And they're on clickies.. and when that's down.. it's our passive resilience (HA!) and Instant healing (HA) (well and integration) that give the passive +Regen functioning as an armor.

In other words, Fire and Electric absolutely CANNOT be more dependent on recharge.

That makes no sense..
Mitigation through killing is just as beneficial to Regen whom also has no defense, and no resistance.. So regen is bound to take more damage and be forced to use their powers.. more liberally in many cases.
Regen provides great tools to jump from fight a to b faster when you need to stop inbetween (they recover everything faster without rest). But when Regen's powers drop again there's no defense no resistance (well next to none) making regen more survivable..
I'm failing to see how you are thinking that the duration of +hp or +regen on Regen makes it superior to +Res which is essentially an INFINITE DURATION.

The only time I think this is true is when you consider end issues.. and that's why regen plays nice through level 20.
The only reason I can agree with willpower is the lack of a self heal in the early levels and the placement of defensive powers. Focusing on +regen in for most of the begining (RTTC is a great power). If Heightened senses came where Fast healing was or in place of HPT.. I think it'd be pretty excellent.

But Levels 1-20 for a regen are only good because of QR providing stamina so the lack of ability to attack isn't gimping them.. in that sense the mitigation is coming through killing before you can be killed.. Dull pain as much as you like to think of it is NOT an effective armor. And instant healing doesn't come until 28.. So you've essentially got 2 nice heals from levels 1-20 and some hold resistance which comes late for a scrapper.

So the only part that really feels like it makes a regen scrap "smooth" through 1-20 is the fact that you can spam your attacks more than your peers..