It looks pretty good. With dull pain and accolades, the build is pretty close to the hp cap already. So, you're not getting some of the IO set hp bonus, for example from 3-slotting Numina and LotG. It's probably no big deal, as long as you're aware of it. Maybe you can use the regenerative tissue unique in health instead of the Miracle one, because your recovery is high enough, I think. There are a couple minor subjective things like your 6th slots in impale and throw spines, maybe there are somewhere better that the slots can go to, and whether you need to slot for resistance in MoG.
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Phantom Phantastic (respec): Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(40), T'Death-Dam%(45)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Heal-I(34)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 4: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg(39), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Impale -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(15)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Integration -- HO:Golgi(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Heal(17)
Level 18: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(19), EndMod-I(40)
Level 20: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 22: Quills -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 24: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit(50), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 26: Ripper -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg(37), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Dct'dW-Heal(43)
Level 30: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(43), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Numna-Heal(42), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(45), EndMod-I(46)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), HO:Cyto(48)
Level 49: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
Thanks for the suggestions Twilight. I like the use of the Hami's in Integration and Weave, especially since I don't really need the +HP bonuses. I also got a little more Melee defense by going with an extra set of obliterations in Quills.
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Phantom Phantastic (respec): Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge T'Death-Acc/Dmg:40(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(40), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg:40(40), T'Death-Dam%:40(45)
Level 1: Fast Healing Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(40), Mrcl-Heal:40(42), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:40(46)
Level 2: Reconstruction Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal:50(15)
Level 4: Spine Burst Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Oblit-Dmg:50(39), Oblit-%Dam:50(46)
Level 6: Hurdle Jump-I:50(A)
Level 8: Impale Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(31), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 10: Dull Pain Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal:50(15)
Level 12: Combat Jumping LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(43)
Level 14: Super Jump Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Integration Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(17), HO:Golgi(17)
Level 18: Quick Recovery P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(19), EndMod-I:50(19)
Level 20: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(21), RechRdx-I:50(21)
Level 22: Quills Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(23), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Dmg:50(37), Oblit-%Dam:50(45)
Level 24: Build Up GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(25), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(48), GSFC-ToHit:50(50), GSFC-Build%:50(50)
Level 26: Ripper Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Oblit-Dmg:50(37), Oblit-%Dam:50(43)
Level 28: Instant Healing RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Boxing Acc-I:50(A)
Level 32: Throw Spines Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Posi-Dam%:50(34), ImpSwft-Dam%:30(34)
Level 35: Tough TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(36), TtmC'tng-EndRdx:40(36), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:50(43), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg:50(50)
Level 38: Moment of Glory LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 41: Health RgnTis-Regen+:30(A), Numna-Heal:50(42), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(42)
Level 44: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(45)
Level 47: Weave LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(48), HO:Enzym(48)
Level 49: Resilience S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Is the Fitness power pool really necessary on a regen? I'm really not good with numbers and stats, but I'm trying to learn. And if it is necessary, would it be better to get it at the earliest level it is available, or is it better to wait longer?
dude fitness is Necessary on EVERY TOON YOU MAKE.
and health adds +regen and Stamina is a Must On EVERY TOON.
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Necessary? No, you can do without it since Regen has Quick Recovery. Still, Spines is a pretty high end set... I found Stamina nice to have once I reached 30 with my Spine/Regen. That was in the SO days though pre-invention... with IO attack slotting giving you basically free endred in your attacks it becomes much less necessary.|
Originally Posted by Storm-Daughter
Is the Fitness power pool really necessary on a regen? I'm really not good with numbers and stats, but I'm trying to learn. And if it is necessary, would it be better to get it at the earliest level it is available, or is it better to wait longer?
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What I'd do leveling up a new Spine/Regen would be to skip Stamina for now and evaluate your end use when you get into the 30's... if you're having problems by then you can always respec and pick up Fitness. Yes Health is useful for a regen but it isn't essential.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
For someone who has More than enough Game experience with all types of toons always get Fitness. id rather not get too blunt with you.
Dude, most toons only get access to Stamina and Quick Recovery has better +recovery than Stamina... so yeah you can go without.
It's nice to have sometimes, and some toons need it more than others depending on the primary. But it's not necessary to have BOTH Stamina and Quick Recovery. Add to that that /Regeneration is a toggle light set and it can be unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
For someone who has More than enough Game experience with all types of toons always get Fitness. id rather not get too blunt with you.
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Nice, remember that Regen gets Quick Recovery at level 4, and it's stronger than Stamina (.33 instead of .25). There are even characters without Quick Recovery that don't need Stamina... my Archery/EM blaster comes to mind. 5 minutes of full speed attack before I need Conserve Power, my blue is full again when CP expires and I'm good for another 5 by which time CP is recharged. I've yet to have my end bottom out and not have CP available.
Yes, most characters benefit from Stamina. Some however don't benefit enough to justify the cost in power selection... like Regen or Willpower. Evaluate the character as you level up; if end is a problem then get Stamina. If you don't have end problems then consider if other powers are more useful to you. This is particularly true with Regen; you already have more recovery without Stamina than most characters have with it.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
Okay how about you make a build post it here let me see How "Unnecessary" it will be
How would you not take health and stam. regen scrappers need regen hints health for more regen. and spines is a hella bad with end. so why not take stam?
trust me Mr. I have 15 lvl 50s me and someone have over 40+ each so we kind of know what we are talking about so you can just stfu no one cares about how high your post count is if your post are rubbish
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Originally Posted by DarkThingy
How would you not take health and stam. regen scrappers need regen hints health for more regen. and spines is a hella bad with end. so why not take stam?
trust me Mr. I have 15 lvl 50s me and someone have over 40+ each so we kind of know what we are talking about so you can just stfu no one cares about how high your post count is if your post are rubbish |
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My apologies to the OP for this derailment of the thread.
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Originally Posted by DarkThingy
How would you not take health and stam. regen scrappers need regen hints health for more regen. and spines is a hella bad with end. so why not take stam?
trust me Mr. I have 15 lvl 50s me and someone have over 40+ each so we kind of know what we are talking about so you can just stfu no one cares about how high your post count is if your post are rubbish |
QR is better than stamina. If I can make a decent spines/sr scrapper, which doesn't have QR, then I can make a regen scrapper without stamina. Anyone who's min-maxed builds realize that endurance drain comes mostly from how attacks are slotted. I've been able to make an endurance efficient spines/sr build since pre-inventions.
Also, I'm not sure why the dig at post count. Post count matters only in the sense that you can look up a player's history and find out whether or not they know what they're talking about. Given that the person you criticized wrote guides on how to min-max a character, I'd say his opinion is more credible than yours who makes silly claims and only justifies his opinion by saying you have 15 level 50s. Does the fact that I've probably deleted that many 50s make my opinion trump yours? (pro tip: it doesn't)
Further, if you played with regen, you'd realize that slotting a regen scrapper for regen and recovery is absolutely the worst thing from a min max point of view. Regen thrives on +recharge and then defense. It's a click set. Passive regeneration is actually *not* it's strong point.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
dude fitness is Necessary on EVERY TOON YOU MAKE.
and health adds +regen and Stamina is a Must On EVERY TOON. |
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
dude fitness is Necessary on EVERY TOON YOU MAKE.
and health adds +regen and Stamina is a Must On EVERY TOON. |
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
For someone who has More than enough Game experience with all types of toons always get Fitness. id rather not get too blunt with you.
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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Okay how about you make a build post it here let me see How "Unnecessary" it will be
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Sorry to say it..
The +Recov provided by quick recovery is STRONGER than that found in Stamina. With the lack of toggles a that a spines/regen will have.. Well lets just say if a Spines/Da can run with only Stamina with the plethora of toggles, a /regen should have no problems in that regard.
While the +regen is a nice touch health itself doesn't boost your HP. I understand the idea of trying to boost as much +regen out of a /regen as you possibly can, but sadly that's not the way to go.
A regen needs other forms of mitigation.. So you're better off investing in the fighting PP, or combat jumper, or perhaps even maneuvers if you're desperate for +def. It will be far out weigh any benefit the +regen of health will give you.. And since you don't need stamina, that's really the only draw for picking up the Stamina PP.
The fitness power pool is nice to fit (IF YOU CAN) but ultimately in terms of a /regen is not aiding much in survivability. Certainly it can be pushed off until VERY late game.
Lets put it this way..
Assuming base numbers of 399% regeneration (this is fast healing with a level 50 health IO and integration with a level 50 health IO) on the base level 50 hp of 1339. A regen makes back 22.3 hp/s
Now lets add health to shift our +regen up a bit more. heck we'll 6 slot it (not that anyone wood) with health IOS (level 50). We've now taken our regen rate to 486% which brings our hp/s up to 27.2 hp/s.
That's a 5 hp/s difference.
Lets take just tough instead..
A single level 50 IO into tough resists S/L to 14%.
To make that 5 hp difference Tough simply needs to resist S/L damage that hits for 36 hit points.
At level 50 you'll be VERY hard pressed to find baddies that are hitting for 35 hp when they hit you. Not to mention that with any character you'll have multiple people hitting you at one time.
Regen has the unfortunate side effect of scaling down in effectiveness as more people attack you. Even though you may not see it, the effect of 14% reduction to smashing/lethal actually scales upwards when more people are attacking you.
Because 14% reduction is equally effective on the first guy as it is the second as it is the 10th.
5 bonus hp/s regen is more effective against the first guy, but that's it.. it's not like your regen gives another 5 hp/s for the second guy (or even adds the original 27.3 for every other attacker).
So while +regen nice for a regeneration character to have, taking the fitness powerpool is absolutely NOT a necessity.
It's a nice way to squeak some more +regen out, but there's certainly other things worth investing in first.
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Originally Posted by DarkThingy
How would you not take health and stam. regen scrappers need regen hints health for more regen. and spines is a hella bad with end. so why not take stam?
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Regen scrappers need more +RECHARGE. That way you can fire off those click heals as much as possible. +Regen is important too but that's something you can invest some sets into getting.
Spines is Bad on end.. Why not take stam? You don't need it.. Unless you plan to not pick up quick recovery, but why you'd not take the superior of end recovery powers.. yeah not sure..
Again.. Spines/Dark can make due with just Stam and you've got tons of toggles.. Spines/Regen should be more capable with with a recovery power that at it's base offers 5% more end recovery and no armor toggles (Except integration). With 3 level 50 IO's QR makes about +60% end recov.. Stam only makes +50%. That's a big difference.
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Originally Posted by DarkThingy
trust me Mr. I have 15 lvl 50s me and someone have over 40+ each so we kind of know what we are talking about so you can just stfu no one cares about how high your post count is if your post are rubbish
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Also to the OP.. with the fact that health is not a very important power to you.. You may want to consider (yes it's expensive) putting the concealment set into your build. Not to slot out or anything.. But picking up stealth, grant invis, and invis, gives you nice places to drop 3 lotg +rech when you can afford them.. Which will be infinitely more useful when you can get your recon up in 20 sec vs the extra 5hp/s health grants.
50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
Then make Builds!
This is the build my main will be respecing into as soon as I've turned villian. As you can see the fitness pool is not included and I'm quite comforatable with the end usage/recovery and survivability. While the fitness pool is a wonderful thing it is NOT a requirement for regen.
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Edin: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg(5), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(7), RgnTis-Regen+(7)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(13), P'Shift-EndMod(13), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Spine Burst -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(17), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Impale -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(21), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(23), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(25), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31)
Level 16: Integration -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Quills -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(50), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(50)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 22: Tactics -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit(34)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Boxing -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 28: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctvArm-EndRdx(36), RctvArm-ResDam(36), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(39), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Ripper -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg(40), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Throw Spines -- Ragnrk-Knock%(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(46)
Level 44: Dark Blast -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Resilience -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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What good are the builds going to do you that my explanation on why regen is not as valuable as +def and +rech? In the view of the forum they are both numbers.|
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice
Then make Builds!
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I mean afterall you're still going to see one showin more +hp/s and one showing all the powers firing off more often as well as you getting hit less..
But the build is not going to translate to showing you in game.
Why don't YOU make a build to show me that +regen is more important than other things you could fit like +rech or +regen? I'm not the one that needs convincing on the power of +def and +rech.
And you sir certainly having 15 50's certainly must understand everything there is to know.
Please.. do post your uber spines/regen.
Then perhaps I'll show you how to make it better.
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Originally Posted by VeryBadDay
This is the build my main will be respecing into as soon as I've turned villian. As you can see the fitness pool is not included and I'm quite comforatable with the end usage/recovery and survivability. While the fitness pool is a wonderful thing it is NOT a requirement for regen.
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50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster
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Pretty good build actually. I made some adjustments. Lowered end cost/sec, increased. Reslotted tough and quills. Added a little bit more recovery. Added a slot to build up.|
Originally Posted by VeryBadDay
This is the build my main will be respecing into as soon as I've turned villian. As you can see the fitness pool is not included and I'm quite comforatable with the end usage/recovery and survivability. While the fitness pool is a wonderful thing it is NOT a requirement for regen.
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Edin: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg(5), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(7), RgnTis-Regen+(7)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(13), P'Shift-EndMod(13), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Spine Burst -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(17), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 10: Impale -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(21), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(23), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(25), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Integration -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(29), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Quills -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 22: Tactics -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit(34)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Boxing -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 28: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(36), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), ImpArm-ResDam(37)
Level 30: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(39), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Ripper -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg(40), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Throw Spines -- Ragnrk-Knock%(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(46)
Level 44: Dark Blast -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Resilience -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Thanks Fury, this is actually the second time you've helped me with my spine/regen. I liked the tweaks you did, the only thing i didn't keep was the extra slot in BU, instead i placed it in QR with the Prof Shifter tri for a little more end recovery and the damage bonus. In BU it was only giving me 3.3 seconds of recharge redux. If you see anything else in the build that can be done to squeeze more performance out of it then please let me know.
Been trying to update the build for Phantom Phantastic, my Spine/Regen Scrapper from a static team I played a while ago. I never really completed an end game build for him. I figured I would go for Recharge and some Defense. I mainly want to see if I can give him some decent suvivability and AoE damage capabilities. I was able to get 60% recharge + Hasten 70% (130% recharge total) and 29.1% Melee defense (was hoping to get to 30% but this is pretty close).
If you see any glaring errors or improvements I would appreciate any advice you can offer.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Phantom Phantastic (respec): Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge
(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(45) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Fast Healing
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(42) Healing IO
Level 2: Reconstruction
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(5) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
(5) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(15) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 4: Spine Burst
(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(39) Obliteration - Damage
(46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 6: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO
Level 8: Impale
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(9) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(9) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 10: Dull Pain
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(11) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
(11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(15) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 12: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Jumping IO
Level 16: Integration
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Quick Recovery
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(19) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(19) Endurance Modification IO
Level 20: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(21) Recharge Reduction IO
(21) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 22: Quills
(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(23) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(23) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(45) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
Level 24: Build Up
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 26: Ripper
(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(37) Obliteration - Damage
(46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Instant Healing
(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(29) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
(29) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(43) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 30: Boxing
(A) Accuracy IO
Level 32: Throw Spines
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(33) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(34) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(34) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
Level 35: Tough
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(36) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(36) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Titanium Coating - Endurance
(43) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
(50) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Moment of Glory
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
(39) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 41: Health
(A) Miracle - Heal
(42) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
(42) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
Level 44: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(45) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 47: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 49: Resilience
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Accuracy IO
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Best regards,
Tommy Truestar