Time to Redo the Shade..


Dechs Kaison

 

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So I've recently gotten back into playing CoH and decided my level 42ish shade needs some love to get to 50.
Of course with the changes as of I19 now I've got stamina which was previously not an option in my build, so I can't help but think that my slotting can be moved around a bit.
Therein lies my problem, My powers seem pretty well laid out, but I dunno I'm open to suggestions I suppose. Gravity Shield lacks utility for me since I'm so rarely in human form, but the alternative of orbiting death doesn't seem too good either.

Preferably I'd like to be a viable triform so I don't necessarily need to shift forms. Which means my human form can probably use a bit more work at this point.

Aid self/other/resuscitate I have no idea why they are in the build.. most likely for added team utility.. But.. eh... I dunno nothing else power wise seemed to jump out as something I needed..

And certainly I'm no wiz with enhancements, but I was working on +rech obviously. It's easy to keep out 2 fluffies.. I have had with a /rad or /kin (can't remember which) a 3rd.. But yeah.. Anything that can improve my build would be greatly appreciated.. Especially moving slots and such as I plan to do the ol /respec soon so I can take advantage of that inherent stamina and health finally!

Oh.. Finally if I drop a flight speed in swift, does that affect the speed of dark nova?

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Void Seductress Triform: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravity Shield -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 4: Gravimetric Snare -- Acc-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- EndRdx-I(A), EndMod-I(34)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 10: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(13), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(13), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(48), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), ImpArm-ResDam(21), RctvArm-ResDam(27), EndMod-I(27)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(23), EndRdx-I(25), EndMod-I(25)
Level 24: Aid Self -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(48), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(48), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(50)
Level 28: Resuscitate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Unchain Essence -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(31), Dmg-I(31), Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), RechRdx-I(34), Dmg-I(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Acc-I(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), RechRdx-I(40), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Range-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Entrpc-Heal%(46)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(11), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(15), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), Heal-I(36), Heal-I(43)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Acc-I(A)



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50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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I really suggest you give my MFing Warshade guide a read; the link is in my signature. It's designed around helping you find how you like to play and get the most out of an aggressive triform shade.

I don't give you builds, but I do have a lengthy explanation on how to build your own. I'll look over your build when I get home (I don't have mids here at work).


Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I really suggest you give my MFing Warshade guide a read; the link is in my signature. It's designed around helping you find how you like to play and get the most out of an aggressive triform shade.

I don't give you builds, but I do have a lengthy explanation on how to build your own. I'll look over your build when I get home (I don't have mids here at work).
Oh trust me.. I printed it out already.. :P
I plan to read it either at lunch or whilst riding the train home this evening.

My build right now is a mess.. I mean its a usable mess.. But definitely has areas of improvement especially I think in terms of slot efficiency for high recharge.. Should I get through the guide by lunch perhaps I can whip together a modified build later. The current one is old... very old.. The only reason it's got stamina is because I didn't take it and mids added it itself. :P


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
Oh trust me.. I printed it out already.. :P
I plan to read it either at lunch or whilst riding the train home this evening.
Fair warning: It is also intended to be quite humorous. I do not suggest reading in a place where laughing out loud will result in dirty looks from co-workers.


Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Fair warning: It is also intended to be quite humorous. I do not suggest reading in a place where laughing out loud will result in dirty looks from co-workers.
Good thing i've got my own office.. :P
So after reading the whole thing, I've gone and made some of my adjustments.. moved things around a whole bunch too.

I think this build says, "I'm an MFing Warshade" appropriately. Saw a few +rech bonuses missing from my build.. as well as removed some slots and such (especially now that we have stamina), so I can perma hasten but only by .4 s.. so Maybe I should consider more? Though I can't figure out how without purples.

That being said I think I'll work toward dropping purples (after I hit 50) in:
Sunless Mire, Gravity Well, Gravitic Emanation, Unchain Essence, and Black Dwarf Strike.. Of course that PROBABLY will never happen.. but it gives me things to build for post 50 should the chance arrive. (doing so lowers my hasten to 111.84s.. again not going to happen but goals!!

Here's my MFing Warshade build... :-D

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.91
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Void Seductress Triform: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravimetric Snare -- Acc-I(A)
Level 4: Orbiting Death -- M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 10: Starless Step -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A), Zephyr-ResKB(50)
Level 16: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- P'Shift-End%(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), ImpArm-ResDam(21), ResDam-I(27)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(48), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(48), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(50)
Level 28: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Unchain Essence -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(31), Dmg-I(31), Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), RechRdx-I(34), Dmg-I(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Acc-I(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Range-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Entrpc-Heal%(43)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(11), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Heal-I(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Range-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(27), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(45), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(46), Mocking-Rchg(50)



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50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
My powers seem pretty well laid out, but I dunno I'm open to suggestions I suppose. Gravity Shield lacks utility for me since I'm so rarely in human form, but the alternative of orbiting death doesn't seem too good either.
On this particular point, I debated that with myself and went with Gravity Shield. Since even with Uber Recharge you can't always count on a spawn being conveniently present when you want to fire off Mire and Eclipse, its handy after finishing a fight to toggle this on so when you go running into the middle of the next spawn, you take a bit less damage in the process of becoming a Flying Gun Platform. One or two ticks of Orbiting Death seems less useful, and is more likely to get you shot or stunned or something bad while trying to buff off the bad guys.


 

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Originally Posted by Scientist View Post
On this particular point, I debated that with myself and went with Gravity Shield. Since even with Uber Recharge you can't always count on a spawn being conveniently present when you want to fire off Mire and Eclipse, its handy after finishing a fight to toggle this on so when you go running into the middle of the next spawn, you take a bit less damage in the process of becoming a Flying Gun Platform. One or two ticks of Orbiting Death seems less useful, and is more likely to get you shot or stunned or something bad while trying to buff off the bad guys.
This is true.. But for that alpha strike you could also black dwarf it.. Mire them, then switch to human mode hit eclipse and get off a gravity well while you've got the mire going (or GW then eclipse).
I agree though that the shield does offer a little utility vs. orbiting death, as there's really no reason (other than to look cool), to turn on OD


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Alright, done giving it the once over. It looks really good.

You can save yourself a slot by moving the winter's gift or the KB protection to black dwarf step or shadow recall. If I were you, I'd put that extra slot into Gravity Well and slot a common damage IO.

Other than that, not much else I see. I prefer going with Decimation as opposed to Entropic Chaos. You get +Health instead of +Regen.


Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Alright, done giving it the once over. It looks really good.

You can save yourself a slot by moving the winter's gift or the KB protection to black dwarf step or shadow recall. If I were you, I'd put that extra slot into Gravity Well and slot a common damage IO.

Other than that, not much else I see. I prefer going with Decimation as opposed to Entropic Chaos. You get +Health instead of +Regen.


Good idea on the slot the KB protection/winters gift.. probably the gift works best in dwarf step as that's where I'd most often be and activate it.

AS for Decimation vs Entropic Chaos.. I like Entropic simply because of the chance for self heal. Which gives my nova form (on an attack I'll be spamming a lot) a chance to heal a tiny bit.
But I can certainly see the +hp vs +regen!


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by JusticeisServed View Post
Good idea on the slot the KB protection/winters gift.. probably the gift works best in dwarf step as that's where I'd most often be and activate it.
Winter's Gift does not need to be activated. Nor do the KB protections. They act like global bonuses; as long as you don't exemplar more than three levels below the IO level, you keep the bonus.

There's a little icon that shows up in your buff bar for some reason that makes it seem like it's an activated bonus, but I've checked and seen the bonus active full time.

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AS for Decimation vs Entropic Chaos.. I like Entropic simply because of the chance for self heal. Which gives my nova form (on an attack I'll be spamming a lot) a chance to heal a tiny bit.
But I can certainly see the +hp vs +regen!
That's why I called this one a preference. I don't think either set is particularly better.


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Thanks for the time and input Dechs! Can't wait to get some time to finish this WS off!!
Should have made time for double xp weekend.


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster

 

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Working on this build for my ws.I decided not to take nova as i prefered human form even for the range ones.Also mind that if you have cloak on,raptor pack doesn t show so it s a bit coolFor last power i took SS but you can change it for nova as it s a good power for early lvls and can be used as a travel power.hasten is at 120.7 and eclipse at 82.29 so it s perma without any purps.hope will help ya.

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Originally Posted by Duos View Post
Working on this build for my ws.I decided not to take nova as i prefered human form even for the range ones.Also mind that if you have cloak on,raptor pack doesn t show so it s a bit coolFor last power i took SS but you can change it for nova as it s a good power for early lvls and can be used as a travel power.hasten is at 120.7 and eclipse at 82.29 so it s perma without any purps.hope will help ya.
No Mirey Nova Love?
I have never tried the human form blasts in replacement for the nova version.. Hrm..


50s:
White Valkyrie - BS/Regen Scrap
Fear of Silence - Ninja/Dark MM
Corporate Zombie - Necro/Poison MM
Ardent Cataclysm - Stone/Fire Tank
Angelic Heart - Peacebringer
Maelstrom - Elec/Elec Brute
Novastar - Energy/Fire Blaster