Is the Blaster still king in PvP?
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Comeuppance,
Posted on: 2009-03-26 06:51 in Everything about PvP
I'm a total PvP newb so I can't tell you who the king of PvP is, but one thing I do know is that they're toning down Elusivity a bit in i14. So don't roll an SR or Widow based solely on how they perform in i13.
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Is Super Reflex Scrapper/Stalkers the only way to assuredly win?
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O.o
There is no I Win button in pvp.
there are only "i win" ATs
There isn't really a king AT in CoH. Almost all AT's can perform well. It's just that there is a very select number of builds in each AT that are good, and the rest suck. For some AT's, it's as limited as literally like 1 or 2 viable builds.
So yes, some blaster builds are excellent. Psy/devices is one of the best ones.
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There isn't really a king AT in CoH. Almost all AT's can perform well. It's just that there is a very select number of builds in each AT that are good, and the rest suck. For some AT's, it's as limited as literally like 1 or 2 viable builds.
So yes, some blaster builds are excellent. Psy/devices is one of the best ones.
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THANK GOD! I was worried I was wasting my time again.
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Psy/devices is one of the best ones.
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Why? Dev isnt very useful anywhere except for teleganking, and smart pvpers can avoid that most, if not all of the time.
I suppose you could take fly and webnade down meleers but youre no more protected from ranged than before (except for running and then you get no kill) and again, it wont garuntee kills against smart meleers - most will still have epic/ppp ranged attacks anyways.
Now targetting drone is nice, but other than that, why would you take dev when you could have a sure think like /ems melee?
I suppose i could just be a misinformed nub but I havent seen any dev blasters in i13 that could get a kill very easily.
You sound like you haven't PvP'd since I12. First of all, EM's melee is useless. It serves no purpose now that the ranged attacks do basically the same, or better damage.
And targetting drone + webnades make the devices set. TD is huge now, since like 90% of people just play defense toons.
Because melee attacks were made useless, all blaster secondaries are fairly bad...in essence, it really doesn't matter what you take. Each one has 1...MAYBE 2 powers that actually make it stand out. For EM, it's boost range. For MM, it's drain psyche. For devs, it's TD + webnades. All other powers in those sets serve basically no purpose.
Ahem...Electric Manipulation hits through bubbles because bubbles have no SLEEP defense.
Huh? There's no such thing as sleep defense. There's sleep protection, which doesn't exist anymore....and sleep resistance, which bubbles don't have. So if your attack lands, it'll sleep them.....but that's no different from anybody else.
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Huh? There's no such thing as sleep defense. There's sleep protection, which doesn't exist anymore....and sleep resistance, which bubbles don't have. So if your attack lands, it'll sleep them.....but that's no different from anybody else.
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^this^
I <3 /elec for blasters, but playing a toon with that set doesn't give me any higher of a chance to hit past a bubbler's shields than anyone else.
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Huh? There's no such thing as sleep defense. There's sleep protection, which doesn't exist anymore....and sleep resistance, which bubbles don't have. So if your attack lands, it'll sleep them.....but that's no different from anybody else.
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^this^
I <3 /elec for blasters, but playing a toon with that set doesn't give me any higher of a chance to hit past a bubbler's shields than anyone else.
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Adding to that, you know if a controller takes Health in the fitness pool, yea they DO get sleep resist. 48% as a matter of fact. I don't know of any controllers who don't take health personally. Some of you around here might.
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Um... */Devices is for Nub Cakes..... Who stand around lol PVP zones waiting to stalkers.
Sonic/em is still good in i14. If you don't want to roll /em then roll /mental or /elec .
Also don't get pff like a some queeerosexualz are doing now adayz. Pff sucks in i13 and even more in i14. Take ice epic. I have a few builds with Hoarfrost, which can give you a good HP boost and a Heal you can use like once or twice a match. If your on a team with buffer you can use it 4 - 5 times a match, which is much better then aid self.
O and what up killo long time no see.
The HP boost doesn't matter on a blaster, you can get close enough to the cap with some simple IO slotting (about +15% if you want the cap)and accolades. The heal might I guess, since you could use it as another panic button.
O my good friend you are sadly mistaken, here is why.
Blasters have little to no resist or defensive powers. The only means they have of surviving is there HP and there ability to refill it. Thats it, there is no other way.
More HP = you live longer
Ability to restore it = you live longer
With that said, hyber noob and HF are un- interruptible ways to restore your health and raze your HP. PFF and Aid self are not. You can get killed in PFF from DOT which stops you from using aid self.
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O my good friend you are sadly mistaken, here is why.
Blasters have little to no resist or defensive powers. The only means they have of surviving is there HP and there ability to refill it. Thats it, there is no other way.
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Read my post a little more closely, I'm saying you can hit the HP cap without that power. You can't get more hp than the cap, therefore the hp boost doesn't matter, only the heal.
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You sound like you haven't PvP'd since I12. First of all, EM's melee is useless. It serves no purpose now that the ranged attacks do basically the same, or better damage.
And targetting drone + webnades make the devices set. TD is huge now, since like 90% of people just play defense toons.
Because melee attacks were made useless, all blaster secondaries are fairly bad...in essence, it really doesn't matter what you take. Each one has 1...MAYBE 2 powers that actually make it stand out. For EM, it's boost range. For MM, it's drain psyche. For devs, it's TD + webnades. All other powers in those sets serve basically no purpose.
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The reason /em was good in i12 was Boost range, not the melee. Infact, the melee from /elec was better than for /em; except total focus did much more damage than thunderstrike (but only noub /em blasters used TF in i12 anyway).
EM is still better than /devices though, in most cases. Boost range is just as good as it was in i12, and total focus (yes, noutotalfocus) is actually very potent now. EM also has power thrust, which is a very powerful KB. Above all, /devices has no "build up" power. So, a psi/em hits much harder than a psi/dev, from much farther away than a psi/dev. You can argue that a psi/dev is more consistently accurate with targeting drone, but the psi/em will have much better accuracy with BU + aim, or power boosted BU and aim (dev doesn't have power boost either) .
Well, at least in SC, blasters are kings yeah. The Spines/WP with the impale blasting rules there.
Oh wait.
- Dual Blades Stalker Guide
- Mastermind guide to Pain Domination
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Um... */Devices is for Nub Cakes..... Who stand around lol PVP zones waiting to stalkers.
Sonic/em is still good in i14. If you don't want to roll /em then roll /mental or /elec .
Also don't get pff like a some queeerosexualz are doing now adayz. Pff sucks in i13 and even more in i14. Take ice epic. I have a few builds with Hoarfrost, which can give you a good HP boost and a Heal you can use like once or twice a match. If your on a team with buffer you can use it 4 - 5 times a match, which is much better then aid self.
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Nub cakes & queerosexualz, eh? What are you, five?
"They've got us surrounded again, the poor bastards." - General Creighton W. Abrams
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Um... */Devices is for Nub Cakes..... Who stand around lol PVP zones waiting to stalkers.
Sonic/em is still good in i14. If you don't want to roll /em then roll /mental or /elec .
Also don't get pff like a some queeerosexualz are doing now adayz. Pff sucks in i13 and even more in i14. Take ice epic. I have a few builds with Hoarfrost, which can give you a good HP boost and a Heal you can use like once or twice a match. If your on a team with buffer you can use it 4 - 5 times a match, which is much better then aid self.
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Nub cakes & queerosexualz, eh? What are you, five?
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You, sir, have insulted five-year-olds everywhere.
Dont get me started War i know what u do in sirens call.. lets just leave it at that...
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there are only "i win" ATs
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Wrong. Theres only "So long as there is 1 of him and {insert number} of us we'll win anyways."
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Um... */Devices is for Nub Cakes..... Who stand around lol PVP zones waiting to stalkers.
Sonic/em is still good in i14. If you don't want to roll /em then roll /mental or /elec .
Also don't get pff like a some queeerosexualz are doing now adayz. Pff sucks in i13 and even more in i14. Take ice epic. I have a few builds with Hoarfrost, which can give you a good HP boost and a Heal you can use like once or twice a match. If your on a team with buffer you can use it 4 - 5 times a match, which is much better then aid self.
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Nub cakes & queerosexualz, eh? What are you, five?
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You, sir, have insulted five-year-olds everywhere.
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HAHAHA
Used to be at least. Yes Im newb to PvP, and wasted my time geting a Broadsword Invulnerabilty scrapper to 50, and then got stomped by a tanker.
In answer to this I made "Gordbuster" a Mental Blast Devices blaster. Hes lvl 11 now. Should I have made a Blaster? Is Super Reflex Scrapper/Stalkers the only way to assuredly win? Yes Im begging for any intel so I dont waste my time again.