The new Forum rules


Aggelakis

 

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I've generally always linked directly to the picture anyway, so will continue to do that. If the pic is NSFW, I won't put a link, but just let people know to looks, and they'll know where.


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Not unless they're told or the artist... y'know. Signed the pic or something. And who knows if the image is on the user's gallery or on the artist's gallery?

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Correct. Or assuming the owner is linking their own work and you know how to get there. I would never, never link someone elses work in that manner. I may do my own that way because who knows what may be up in my journal at anyone time....


 

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What if I link to my blog which links to another board where I have a link to my DeviantArt where you can check my newest pieces?


 

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Sure there is!

Just click on 'Download' if that is available, if not you might have to right-click and select View Image, but either way you're bound to get a URL like that that you can directly link to.

Though I would REALLY DISCOURAGE this practice, as it makes it practically impossible to comment on the picture or find the artist who did it and it's just bad form if you ask me.

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Okay, I checked it out. I logged out and tried pulling up an image that way and it worked so that is always an option. I'm sure those that are members can figure out a way to get to the artist's page if they want to fave.

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Not unless they're told or the artist... y'know. Signed the pic or something. And who knows if the image is on the user's gallery or on the artist's gallery?

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The image is called by some gobbledegook, followed by the title, followed by the uploader. In this case,

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs31/f/20...by_Rowrsie.jpg

some gobbledegook
titled "Rowr by Daggerpoint-Schoolgirl"
uploaded by Rowrsie

So you can always find who uploaded it, though until you find the image in the uploader's gallery, you don't know the artist (unless familiarly/obviously watermarked/signed)


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Sure there is!

Just click on 'Download' if that is available, if not you might have to right-click and select View Image, but either way you're bound to get a URL like that that you can directly link to.

Though I would REALLY DISCOURAGE this practice, as it makes it practically impossible to comment on the picture or find the artist who did it and it's just bad form if you ask me.

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Well there ya go.

I see and understand the arguments against doing this, but the mods have already laid down the law. If you link off to a dynamic page that may be clean today but not tomorrow, you are taking the risk of having your post nuked.

There's no misunderstanding, misinterpretation or ill will about it.

Does it make life in this forum inconvenient for you? Absolutely. But rules usually do.

As an aside and for the record, I find the rule stupid. A link is not a picture. Folks have the choice to click a link or not click one.

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Yes, see that was EXACTLY what I was asking about. Just flat out saying "one click" left the door wide open for all of DA to be off-limits. Via the main page, or avatars, journals, comments, whatever, any image posted could easily be right next door to NSFW material, through no fault of the poster or even the artist. And I asked that ONLY because Zenvious's piece was pulled down for not being one direct click away from the boards to NSFW material, but one indirect click after you got to the image page.

But back when I first asked that, I was a moron weaseling my way around rules, of course. Not asking a legitimate question or anything.


 

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geez a big 37 post hubabaloo and I wasn't involved ......<sigh>

Bill z is a really nice guy honest ! but he does shoot from the hip and can be less then personable at times .

Take that as you will or take him with a grain of salt much like you would the old angry slightly tipsy uncle at Thanksgiving

Your question was legitimate Wassy , regardless of Billz take on it as some of us are still trying to figure out the new rules

Sure theres some straight forward stuff like

don't post
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and for gods sake dont post

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or F !!

but some folks are still trying to wrap their heads around the one click away rule especially due to DA's eternally shifting nature .

Soul Train has a very good work around for this and I have mentioned a few work arounds as well .

I imagine the next few weeks will be a bit of hassle as we start figuring out different ways to do things then what we are used to .

I would suggest we iron out a post that spells out what not to post and how to post without getting in trouble , likely to include the offcial blurb and Souls work around .

then we run it past the mods and get it stickied up top so we all are playing from the same playbook and we have a better understanding on what constitutes a foul , 5 yard penalty and or a removal from game for acts of unnescarry pron

<Wags finger at Bill >

play nice or im gonna do art of your main and statesman :P


 

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*snickers*

hubabaloo...


 

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That's the thing, they have a right to come up with whatever rules for posting that they want, I'd just like to see them actually laid out CLEARLY. Saying "one click" doesn't say one click from where. Obviously some people took that click as the link itself to the work, but that apparently wasn't the correct click when Zenvious's piece was modded. It was a subsequent clicking. And then just knowing how DA is, you're one subsequent link away from NSFW material at all times.

And I'm DEFINITELY not saying we shouldn't use DA at all. I can somewhat understand if the artist has something like a NSFW ID.... sorta. But even then you can't view those images unless you're logged in (and I know there will be times when things aren't properly tagged as mature, but I've found that to be in the minority). Honestly though, I would totally understand if they're modding because the artist's gallery was chock full of NSFW material, even though a safe one was posted. But I just wanted to make sure its not any link on the same page as the artwork, even a commenter or the main page link.


 

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Sadly I don't think they will lay out clearly the rules as as soon as the draw a line in the sand someones gonna try to tiptoe past it .

belive me id love a very straight forward list of do's and don't which is why I think we have a better chance of doing up or own list and then getting the mods to read over it to add anything they think might be appropriate .

right now theres a few golden rules but not everyone seems to know them or knows where to look for them .

<scratches head >

Im gonna abstain from green apple smirnoff this week and see about hammering out a players list of Do's and Dohs ! in regards to the art forum .


 

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*snickers*

hubabaloo...

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hahahaha my dad still uses that word to refer to any racket made by children ...which at his age is anyone under 30 :P


 

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I had one image removed as a link from the Forums in 4 years. If the Moderators want to keep the Screenshots and FanArt section "nipple free" I don't mind.

Leave me with excessive violence, improbable skintight and/or gravity defying costumes, and I'll be a happy camper.





 

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I'm wondering if someone can test something for me/us. I need someone who does not have a DA account. I can send them via PM some links to "questionable" pics, and to a DA member's page with "questionable" pics on it. I want to see if they can see such pics without DA membership.

Any takers?


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I'm wondering if someone can test something for me/us. I need someone who does not have a DA account. I can send them via PM some links to "questionable" pics, and to a DA member's page with "questionable" pics on it. I want to see if they can see such pics without DA membership.

Any takers?

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You can test it by simply logging out of DA and clicking the links yourself.

Also I hate to be a butt, but I noticed that in Lighthouses post on the art forums, that the DA page he linked is one click away from questionable art via the "recent watchers" list.

Is he going to mod himself now?


 

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No, no - it's one click from here, i.e. that link could not lead to anything showing...anything. A link leading to something linked to something naughty is not on the radar, I don't believe.


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You can sign out of your DA account. I know it will feel weird and strange, but take a deep breath!!! Stay calm!! You CAN do this!

Or if you want, I can sign out of mine and test for you. And from personal experience, when I switch around between OSX and Windows and get logged out, I can't see the one pic in my gallery that I marked for mild nudity.


 

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I'm wondering if someone can test something for me/us. I need someone who does not have a DA account. I can send them via PM some links to "questionable" pics, and to a DA member's page with "questionable" pics on it. I want to see if they can see such pics without DA membership.

Any takers?

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You can test it by simply logging out of DA and clicking the links yourself.


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Yeah, but then I have to remember my password to get back in.


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Frankly these rules, or rather the enforcement of them (thanks to their vague nature), are becoming draconian. When zenvious' Jade Ohm commission is deleted, that's just getting prudish. There's no way it was indecent by any metric. The mods are way out of line removing that one, and it marks the start of a very disturbing trend.


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Frankly these rules, or rather the enforcement of them (thanks to their vague nature), are becoming draconian. When zenvious' Jade Ohm commission is deleted, that's just getting prudish. There's no way it was indecent by any metric. The mods are way out of line removing that one, and it marks the start of a very disturbing trend.

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Since you know which thread it was, the link to the artist page had NSFW right on it. The actual image that was being linked in a separate link was fine, if it has been posted without the artist's page, or the artist's page didn't have NSFW on it, then that would have stayed.


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I only saw one image so I'll have to take your word for it. Regardless, nuking the whole thread instead of just removing the offending link, then nuking a subsequent thread that was started with a simple question, is still way out of line. It also displays a disturbingly capricious and heavy-handed moderation approach.


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Frankly, I don't see the purpose of trying to please every poster's moderation tastes. I've had problems with moderation before, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule. In fact, I wound prefer heavy-handed moderation, so long as it is consistent, as opposed to the debacles that sometimes break out on the forums do to previously disturbingly soft-touched moderation (probably due to previously undermanned moderation that lead to apathy).

Additionally, trying to please those posters who will probably never be satisfied with the moderation of the forums is just an exercise in futility. Obviously, there will always demographics of the population who feel that there is too much moderation, and others that feel there is not enough. But when you please everyone, you please no one.


 

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Frankly these rules, or rather the enforcement of them (thanks to their vague nature), are becoming draconian. When zenvious' Jade Ohm commission is deleted, that's just getting prudish. There's no way it was indecent by any metric. The mods are way out of line removing that one, and it marks the start of a very disturbing trend.

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That's been pointed out, GK. The art itself wasn't a problem (and has since been reposted, properly.)

The second link in the post, that went to the artist page? The one that led to a Bare Nekkid Lady in her Featured section? THAT's what earned the banhammer. Lovely artist, NSFW material, oops, sorry, that's gotta go.

As for why the post wasn't edited to remove the link? Hey, Koschej's rules. Not mine. Take it up with him if you really want to 'discuss methods of implementation'.

I know how I'll be conducting MY art announcements from now on.

Work safe? Link to the image page, and if an avatar with the wrong anatomy gets it pulled? Oops, my bad.

Not work safe? Point to the link down below and say "go find it, you'll need to click at LEAST twice."



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I know how I'll be conducting MY art announcements from now on.

Work safe? Link to the image page, and if an avatar with the wrong anatomy gets it pulled? Oops, my bad.

Not work safe? Point to the link down below and say "go find it, you'll need to click at LEAST twice."

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