Fire Control/Kinetics perfect for farm mishes

Most_Amazing · 12-25-2007 07:37 PM

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Most Amazing FireKin: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (3) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (3) Hold Duration IO: Level 50[*] (5) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (5) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 1: Transfusion <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (25) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (27) Healing IO: Level 50[*] (27) Healing IO: Level 50[*] (29) Healing IO: Level 50[*] (29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 2: Siphon Power <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (31) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (45) Accuracy IO: Level 50[/list]Level 4: Fire Cages <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (7) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (7) Immobilisation Duration IO: Level 50[*] (9) Immobilisation Duration IO: Level 50[*] (9) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 6: Combat Jumping <ul type="square">[*] (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50[*] (43) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 8: Hot Feet <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (11) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (13) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (13) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (15) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (15) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 10: Siphon Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (31) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 12: Flashfire <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (17) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (17) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (21) Disorient Duration IO: Level 50[/list]Level 14: Super Jump <ul type="square">[*] (A) Jumping IO: Level 50[*] (42) Jumping IO: Level 50[*] (48) Jumping IO: Level 50[/list]Level 16: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (40) Run Speed IO: Level 50[/list]Level 18: Cinders <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (21) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (25) Hold Duration IO: Level 50[/list]Level 20: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO: Level 50[*] (40) Healing IO: Level 50[/list]Level 22: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (37) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[/list]Level 24: Acrobatics <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (42) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 26: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 28: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (42) Run Speed IO: Level 50[*] (48) Run Speed IO: Level 50[/list]Level 30: Maneuvers <ul type="square">[*] (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50[*] (43) Defense Buff IO: Level 50[/list]Level 32: Fire Imps <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (33) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (33) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (33) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (34) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 35: Transference <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (36) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (36) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (36) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 38: Fulcrum Shift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (39) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (45) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 41: Tactics <ul type="square">[*] (A) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50[*] (43) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50[/list]Level 44: Fire Ball <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (46) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[*] (46) Damage Increase IO: Level 50[/list]Level 47: Fire Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Resist Damage IO: Level 50[*] (48) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 49: Consume <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (50) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (50) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (50) Accuracy IO: Level 50[/list]------------
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meris608 · 12-25-2007 08:38 PM

Couple things for this:

1) You found enough slots to add 2 more to Super Jump but you only put 3 total in Fire Ball? Thats one of your better AoE powers and you decide to pad SJ with it?

2)You need to do DAMAGE, so why did you put in Manuevers over Assault?

3) You chose a second travel power? And you even 3 slotted it? What use is that in PLing?

4) Why did you slot Leadership for the buffs instead of End Drain, running Hot Feet, the Leadership Buffs, and still attacking is going to make your end run out like crazy. As it is right now with all your toggles running (all the toggles you NEED to be running that is, no SJ or SS or anything) you only gain .66 end back every second, and you have a LOT of stuff that needs to be used. Yah yah I know you have Transference, but I still wouldnt rely THAT much on it.

5) I hope you have a lot of money sitting around cause each one of those IOs (even if they are generic) will cost you a LOT of money. They are around 600k a piece to buy them (100k to buy Recipe 500k to craft), and when you multiply that by how many you have in that build you will need some extra $$

6) You slotted Fulcrum Shift for End Reduction? Couldnt you find a better use for a slot than that? Maybe as like...Accuracy? Or maybe you should actually 3 slot Stamina...

Just a few thoughts on it. Hope it helps

Most_Amazing · 12-26-2007 09:44 AM

thankyou i just made this according to my sg leader he uses this exact build and we do runs in under 5 minuets so i thought that was good (not including load times ) but i agree with u about the leader ship powers but he says he uses defence for his imps and the accuracy is for all the missing he does and as i can see when he has that on he never misses but the second travel power super speed was useless i think i thought he should have just gotten hasten and left it there but he wanted SS too
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THANK YOU FOR THE HELP

Ohsirus · 12-26-2007 11:40 AM

Bad Build

energy_alien · 12-26-2007 12:31 PM

Here's my build... I do fast run times with it (my record time is about 12 minutes). A 5 minute run time makes no sense, if we're talking about the same mish... I run the family map solo, there's no possible way you could do that in 5 minutes. Anyways, tell me what you think.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Fire Alien - Psi: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
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energy_alien · 12-26-2007 12:48 PM

Quick end notes I forgot.
-I do not need any of the leaping pool, because of the KB resist IO in Indom Will, the KB resist isn't as effective as Acrobatics, but its enough for the family mish... i NEVER get KB'd
-Also the hold resist in Acrobatics much less than that in Indom Will, even though hold isn't a factor with Family
-Indom Will also protects against sleep and fear
-I only use Flashfire or Cinders about 4 times per Family run
-The leadership pool is overrated in my opinion... you can get global acc buffs from IO sets that already exceed Tactics, and on a fast fire/kin, you already are at damage cap for all mobs, except maybe the first
-Yeah, I went with //psi, it gives stun protection, exact same smash/lethal protection
-On that note, psi tornado does slightly less damage... but has about half the recharge time of fire ball and a larger radius... therefore, you hit more of the mob, twice.
-Also, the Force Feedback: Chance for +100% global recharge is great for farming... and you kinda need the extra push for nearly perma-Indom Will
-For those of you interested... my combo is Fire Cages, Fulcrum Shift, (Siphon Speed if avail.), Psi Tornado, Transfusion and Transference, Fire Cages, (another Psi Tornado if needed).
-And yes, my mission is 6-spawned and on Invinc.

Memphis_Bill · 12-26-2007 01:53 PM

... why is this in Guides, exactly?

See my Guides and Tutorials

Suspicious_Pkg · 12-26-2007 01:56 PM

Just curious, but how 'nearly perma' is IW when you farm?
Is Force Feedback +Recharge really that good?

We don' need no stinkin' signatures!

Star_Sentinel · 12-27-2007 06:52 AM

I'm just curious, if your goal in a farm mish is to get from one mob to the next, why wouldn't you pick up Hasten/Super speed only? If you want to jump, get Inertial Redux. I've gone that route, and couldn't be happier.

Also, for Fire Cages I've found that slotting damage isn't really worth it. There are two PROCs that help with that though. Trap of the Hunter: Chance for Lethal Damage and Positron's Blast: Chance for Energy Damage. When/If they fire it will do greater damage than slotting damage ever could. Hot Feet and later Fire Imps are doing your major damage for you. And they are worth slotting Damage in them.

meris608 · 12-27-2007 07:26 AM

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I'm just curious, if your goal in a farm mish is to get from one mob to the next, why wouldn't you pick up Hasten/Super speed only? If you want to jump, get Inertial Redux. I've gone that route, and couldn't be happier.

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I got leaping for the mez protect, and I honestly wouldn't bother with SS because I have Siphon Speed for all my running needs.

Doctor_Grass · 12-27-2007 07:39 AM

with a fire/kin there is no real need to slot damage enhancements at all, as 8 applictions of fuclrum shift and your at damage cap, so someone could just slot a lot of recharge/acc and end reducer to help in those areas.

Star_Sentinel · 12-27-2007 08:17 AM

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with a fire/kin there is no real need to slot damage enhancements at all, as 8 applictions of fuclrum shift and your at damage cap, so someone could just slot a lot of recharge/acc and end reducer to help in those areas.

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True as well.

Star_Sentinel · 12-27-2007 08:20 AM

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I'm just curious, if your goal in a farm mish is to get from one mob to the next, why wouldn't you pick up Hasten/Super speed only? If you want to jump, get Inertial Redux. I've gone that route, and couldn't be happier.

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I got leaping for the mez protect, and I honestly wouldn't bother with SS because I have Siphon Speed for all my running needs.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but all I see from mids is some Immobilization Resistance.

I tried going with just Siphon Speed and hated it. I only use siphon for recharge enhancement now.

The_Gamemaster · 12-27-2007 08:51 AM

Acrobatics provides a minor protection from Holds.

Kitteh · 12-27-2007 10:41 AM

This really should be moved.

Repeat Offenders

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

Star_Sentinel · 12-27-2007 11:15 AM

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This really should be moved.

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+1

Seek_Trouble · 01-09-2008 09:52 AM

The first build is funny. The second is kind of funny but not as bad. I would post mine but I dont really have it 100% memorized. Some comments:

I went the Leadership route as well. Tactics and Maneuvers. For the accuracy and defense, plus I slotted LOTG for the recharge.

My power pools include Hasten, SS, CJ, SJ, Tactics, Maneuvers. Swift, Health and Stamina. (I dont spend all my time on the family map, sometimes I need to travel to WW )

Smoke? What the?

My epic is Fire, picking Fireball, Fireblast and Fireshield (for Defense).

I use FF every 2nd or 3rd mob or so, not as much as FC. My typical pattern is to run in with FC, FS, FB, SS when its up, Transference to fill up my bar, and transfusion as needed (rarely, unless I get two mobs going)

Using set bonuses, I tried to maximize my global recharge, regeneration and recovery. I have probably spent close to 100 million on this build. Good thing its made for farming

Still, I dont think I am 100% happy with it but it works good enough.

rbfalife · 01-09-2008 05:18 PM

Ok, not to be rude or anything, but this build really sucks. I went on test server and tried this build and I hated it. Low resistance then I'm use to, had to carry around BF's to prevent from getting stunned, had endurance problems like you wouldnt believe, but it was duable.

Now, I am not sure why you slotted Swift with another slot, it's a total waste. Seems like this build is nothing but wasted slots and wasted power choices. Look more closely at your build and maybe then you can see what we are seeing. This build is nothing that should be used for farming.

Ohsirus · 01-10-2008 10:34 AM

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Ok, not to be rude or anything, but this build really sucks. I went on test server and tried this build and I hated it. Low resistance then I'm use to, had to carry around BF's to prevent from getting stunned, had endurance problems like you wouldnt believe, but it was duable.

Now, I am not sure why you slotted Swift with another slot, it's a total waste. Seems like this build is nothing but wasted slots and wasted power choices. Look more closely at your build and maybe then you can see what we are seeing. This build is nothing that should be used for farming.

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Lol, You're better than me. It just looked Bad..see what it did to my Avatar

Andalus · 01-21-2008 04:21 PM

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Hoda Sky: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
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This is my Fire/Kin build and its Very Functional..... i'm not happy with the bugged situation with the End Mod sets but that can be fixed by replacing it with 50 End Mod IO's...

BTW 10 - 12 minute runs with her... on both the Family and the Behemoth Farms

Kioshi · 01-22-2008 02:04 AM

It's next to useless slotting Combat Jumping. Jut put 1 LoTG +7.5 recharge and you're golden.

Man this 'guide' should be named 'Bad fire kin builds'...

Now what most farmers use is this build (epics can be fire - the most commeon - or psy instead of stone - I use Assault instead of Maneuvers, it's the only difference from the standand build below):

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Yet Another Fire Kin: Level 48 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- (A)
Level 1: Transfusion -- (A)
Level 2: Siphon Power -- (A)
Level 4: Fire Cages -- (A)
Level 6: Hurdle -- (A)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- (A)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- (A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- (A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- (A)
Level 16: Flashfire -- (A)
Level 18: Hasten -- (A)
Level 20: Health -- (A)
Level 22: Stamina -- (A)
Level 24: Speed Boost -- (A)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- (A)
Level 28: Cinders -- (A)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- (A)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- (A)
Level 35: Transference -- (A)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- (A)
Level 41: Tactics -- (A)
Level 44: Fissure -- (A)
Level 47: Rock Armor -- (A)
Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- (A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- (A)
Level 1: Sprint -- (A)
Level 2: Rest -- (A)
Level 1: Containment

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Andalus · 01-22-2008 03:05 AM

Care to explain your opinion on it being next to useless to slot Combat Jump ?

Kioshi · 01-23-2008 12:14 AM

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Care to explain your opinion on it being next to useless to slot Combat Jump ?

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Combat Jumping is only 2.25% defense.
3-slot it with 3 lvl 50 Defense IOs and you get a measly 3.57%.

Combat Jumping IMO is good for slotting LoTG + rech or Karma -KB IOs (if you don't wanna pick Acrobatics, for pve a Karma IO will do in most cases for knockback)

NumberCruncher · 01-23-2008 01:10 AM

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Care to explain your opinion on it being next to useless to slot Combat Jump ?

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Combat Jumping is only 2.25% defense.
3-slot it with 3 lvl 50 Defense IOs and you get a measly 3.57%.

Combat Jumping IMO is good for slotting LoTG + rech or Karma -KB IOs (if you don't wanna pick Acrobatics, for pve a Karma IO will do in most cases for knockback)

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Exactly. CJ's also there in case you get Immob'ed. Just make sure you are getting the maximum amount of returns, for your enhancement investment. Bah on those low performers!

rbfalife · 01-25-2008 03:57 PM

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Care to explain your opinion on it being next to useless to slot Combat Jump ?

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Combat Jumping is only 2.25% defense.
3-slot it with 3 lvl 50 Defense IOs and you get a measly 3.57%.

Combat Jumping IMO is good for slotting LoTG + rech or Karma -KB IOs (if you don't wanna pick Acrobatics, for pve a Karma IO will do in most cases for knockback)

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Exactly. CJ's also there in case you get Immob'ed. Just make sure you are getting the maximum amount of returns, for your enhancement investment. Bah on those low performers!

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Well I must agree the defense is quite low, but it stacks very well with other defense shields (Weave, and Rock amor if you take it). Also it is double effect if you have Power boost like i took on my new formatted Fire/Kin. Great for farming on my character, (I farm something different then most, which is why I took PB).