you cant #1 untill you #2
Maybe this is just me but where did the reported losses after 7-2 go? I don't even see the forums for reporting losses.
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How does someone with a 2-1 (# CrueL Ownage ice/em tnk @Ownage 3 - 1 (7/2 Def Infamous Evil) )
beat someone with a 3-0 record?(# Miasmic Dragon Nin/Psn MM @Craig LL 3 - 0 (6/28 Def -Jax Frost(8)) )
or a 5-1 record?(# -Jax Frost Ice/cold Corr @-Ajax 5 - 1 (7/2 Def Cumulonimbus)) 
(For the #1 spot that is)
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Those wins were mostly against people lower rank than them, so they don't move at all.
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Maybe this is just me but where did the reported losses after 7-2 go? I don't even see the forums for reporting losses.
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the ladder website
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Maybe this is just me but where did the reported losses after 7-2 go? I don't even see the forums for reporting losses.
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the ladder website
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There is a thread that now has the losses archived. It gets updated periodically.
lol how did I get pushed down from # 3 to #8 when I havent been beaten and those 2 tankers havent been beaten by the people ahead of me?
pwned
maybe you just answered your question.
fight someone.
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Inactivity: Players in the Top Ten must play at least once every 3 days. If they don't they may be dropped five rungs (players will not be dropped if they have made a concerted effort to make themselves available to challengers)
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You haven't fought anyone in 8 days.
the only thing about the ladder that kinda worries me is that, I wish there was a separation of classes.
Like lightweight (defenders, corrs, blasters, ect)
Middleweight (trollers, doms, MMs, ect.)
Heavyweight (stalkers, brutes, tanks, scrappers)
I think it would be more fair for say the great rad/psi duelist. He can beat almost anything and his skill can overcome things that have a slight advantage, but against an EM stalker, he is toast. idk maybe something could be done to make it a conference or league separation.
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How does someone with a 2-1 (# CrueL Ownage ice/em tnk @Ownage 3 - 1 (7/2 Def Infamous Evil) )
beat someone with a 3-0 record?(# Miasmic Dragon Nin/Psn MM @Craig LL 3 - 0 (6/28 Def -Jax Frost(8)) )
or a 5-1 record?(# -Jax Frost Ice/cold Corr @-Ajax 5 - 1 (7/2 Def Cumulonimbus))
(For the #1 spot that is)
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Those wins were mostly against people lower rank than them, so they don't move at all.
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Well who decided on the initial ranks? Im not seeing how you can judge who each person fought was better, especially when the ladder just started.
"PvP Messiah"
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the only thing about the ladder that kinda worries me is that, I wish there was a separation of classes.
Like lightweight (defenders, corrs, blasters, ect)
Middleweight (trollers, doms, MMs, ect.)
Heavyweight (stalkers, brutes, tanks, scrappers)
I think it would be more fair for say the great rad/psi duelist. He can beat almost anything and his skill can overcome things that have a slight advantage, but against an EM stalker, he is toast. idk maybe something could be done to make it a conference or league separation.
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Everything needs its kryptonite. With that idea, Rad/Psis and Ice/Colds would dominate the lightweight league, Ice/Rads and Ice/Storms would dominate the Middleweight league and Ice/EM tanks would dominate the Heavyweight league.
The way it is now, there's a bit of movement. An EM stalker could beat one of those Rad/Psis at the top of the ladder, then in turn someone else might beat him bringing them up too.
I just think you're going to see the top 5 settle down in a little bit. And once it becomes what I think it will, it won't change. Still excited about pvp of course though.
Well yeah, if an EM/Nin gets to first place he will only ever lose if he wants to. He could just stay at the the stealth cap for 10 minutes and force a draw. I don't see how you could fix that though.
Sorry, but I was afk for a couple of days. As you have seen the rankings have now been updated to reflect the matches that have taken place since 7/3.
In response to a few questions that have come up:
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Where do you sign up for this duel ladder?
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You can Join The Ladder Here
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I do understand the need to limit constant, repeated challenges (from the same opponent) where you have no chance to win whatsoever
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I agree that a player can't simply challenge the same player over and over again without fighting anyone else, in hopes of jumping up the ladder (i.e. I'm unranked, but I know I can beat the player currently ranked #4, so I'm going to fight him twice a day every day and not fight anyone else until I'm ranked #4).
I'll need to give this some thought, but we may need to add something along the lines of "If you've challenged a player twice in a row, you can't challenge him again until you've fought two other players." Something like that. So, you wouldn't have to accept a challenge from a player who's fought you twice in a row and hasn't fought anyone else, but if they have been fighting other people you shouldn't treat a challenge from them as being any different than a challenge from someone else.
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how did I get pushed down from # 3 to #8 when I havent been beaten and those 2 tankers havent been beaten by the people ahead of me
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As was pointed out by another poster, there is a penalty for inactivity that will be enforced for players ranked in the Top 10. I was lenient during the first week, but clearly there are enough people on the ladder and fighting that matches can be found if you're looking, so Top 10 players who don't fight anyone for three days will be penalized (dropped 5 spots).
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who decided on the initial ranks?
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Check out the "Ranking System" link in the OP. Everyone started as "Unranked" and was added to list of Ranked players after winning their first ladder match. As it happens, Cruel Ownage was the first to claim the #1 spot by winning the first ladder match.
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separate conferences for AT's
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While I don't foresee having separate conferences. I do think it would be nice to recognize the #1 (or possibly top 3) from each AT. When time permits, I'll add an area to the rankings page that will highlight the top player(s) of each AT. Probably start with just the #1, and go from there.
Ahhh ok.
I've created a Global Channel for the Duel Ladder. It is CoX Duel Ladder. This is in place in case you are on the live side and are looking to set something up ASAP you can just put a shout out. Or we can shoot the breeze, whatever.
The main reason I did it is kinda selfish in a sense, that I log onto test usually before everybody is up and outta bed. So I'd like to be able to log onto the live server and see who all is out there but not on test due to low activity at said hour. Some people may be on lvling a toon on Live for test and that would be one way to get ahold of other Ladder people.
The only obstacle I see is if the channel reaches capacity. I'm not sure if that possible but in case it is we could always make another channel and seperate them by rank class. 1-49 on this chan and 50-100 this thread. or whatever the max people is.
Yey, nay, indifferent?
BTW Terp once you show up I'll give you ownership of the channel and I'll drop off. This is your show so I'd not want to impede.
There is already a global channel on test with quite a lot of the ladder members in it.
The Ladder
/chatjoin the ladder
kkthnxbye
I'm on the test one as well, but since there isn't one on Live I figure why not have one there as well? In case you're on live and want to see if any ladder people would like to go to test, or for any of the reasons stated above.
If you need any advice on running a ladder, this site is a great place to start. http://www.teamwarfare.com/ They've been around for years and are very organized.
[u]Top 10 as of 7/9[u]
CrueL Ownage ice/em tnk 4 - 1 (7/3 Def -Jax Frost)
Fire-E fire/em tnk 1 - 2 (7/4 Loss to Mikey Slo)
Melancholy Heart em/reg stk 4- 0 (7/8 Def Mis Malice)
Mikey Slo Ice/Rad Controller 2 - 1 (7/4 def Fire-E)
Ownage X dark/cold cor 3 -4 (7/5 Loss to Meldash)
Penitente Ice/Ice Dom 3 - 6 (7/5 Loss to Infamous Evil)
Infamous Evil Fire/Storm Cont 6-2 (7/9 Loss to Hekishi)
Hekishi rad/psy Def 7 - 1 (7/9 Def Infamous Evil)
-Jax Frost Ice/cold Corr 7 - 2 (7/5 Def Equitis Mortis)
Meldash Bots/Dark MM 1 - 5 (7/5 Loss to Ownage)
Good to see that you're still around Posi
Whats the deal with Ownage? He's got like 3 dudes in the top ten. Shouldn't a rank be limited to one person/ account? Since you can't have ownage. VS. -ownage , now can ya.
SORRY for being active in this. i just have to avoid fighting myself lol. you dont necessarily have to fight the people above you.
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SORRY for being active in this. i just have to avoid fighting myself lol. you dont necessarily have to fight the people above you.
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Oh my mistake. Had no problem with you winning so much, just wouldn't like to see the same person take the top 3 spots.
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wouldn't like to see the same person take the top 3 spots.
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If Ownage can work his way up to the top 3 spots, more power to him.
He has been the most active ladder member to date with over 20 ladder matches on his various characters.
I think he wants the Top 10 all to himselfÂ…
How does someone with a 2-1 (# CrueL Ownage ice/em tnk @Ownage 3 - 1 (7/2 Def Infamous Evil) )
beat someone with a 3-0 record?(# Miasmic Dragon Nin/Psn MM @Craig LL 3 - 0 (6/28 Def -Jax Frost(8)) )
or a 5-1 record?(# -Jax Frost Ice/cold Corr @-Ajax 5 - 1 (7/2 Def Cumulonimbus))
(For the #1 spot that is)
"PvP Messiah"