Frozen Horizons' Guide to getting rich quick!

Frozen_Horizon · 07-13-2007 11:34 AM

Yup....but in my situation, I farm a mish over and over....I craft everything I get my hands on and then roll a mule.

In theory, yes you want to max out your profits with the best....but I can craft 30 I/Os of any sort faster than I have to wait for 30 ACCs...If ya know what I mean.

Either way, you still get a lot of profit out of them.

dirtydwarf · 07-16-2007 01:44 PM

So..when you get a vet respec...that means for every alt you create after you recieve the vet respec starts with a respec??? I did not know this....

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Frozen_Horizon · 07-16-2007 08:59 PM

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So..when you get a vet respec...that means for every alt you create after you recieve the vet respec starts with a respec??? I did not know this....

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Sure does my friend...Once you get your 6 Month Vet Reward, you can create as many alts as you like and you will get 1 respec per alt. Same goes if you get the 24 Month Reward, then you will start all new alts with 2 respecs.

Fulmens · 07-17-2007 11:28 AM

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*Memorize as many lvl 45-50 Common Recipes as possible (If not all) on your main Crafter. ##THIS IS A MOST TO OPTIMIZE THIS GUIDE AND YOUR PROFITS##

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I'd like to suggest "memorize A FEW common recipes."

Because you're going to put the same amount of time into respec muling whether you have one type of thing in the bin or thirty types.

I'm not real impressed with this particular way of MAKING BIG CASH QUICK but I suppose it beats having people buy up the recipes for the FOTM and turning them into IO's.

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Most players are "lazy" and do not want to buy the salvage and recipes to craft I/Os and/or dont want to wait for a certain drop. This is where we as the "suppliers" play a big part in WentWorths. These players could go out like we do and craft the I/O themselves for under 500k EASILY, but instead they take the easy way out and buy our I/Os.

Therefore, we spend 500k to make and THEY pay 1-3 million for it!

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After you put out the guide... I wasn't lazy. There were no Thunderstrike RECIPES for sale... only million-infl crafted IOs.

At least if you're sitting home doubling your money respeccing, you're not taking stuff off the market.

Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.

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Frozen_Horizon · 07-17-2007 09:03 PM

I do both actually, I farm mishs with my Main for a few hours, then craft and respec with mules. Im doing the best of both worlds currently and lovin it.

Aceovhartz · 07-19-2007 09:23 AM

Great job on the Guide. I'll be hitting up Croatia and Dark Astoria A.S.A.P. Thanks again.

McBeast · 07-22-2007 03:42 PM

I've gotta try this! Great guide!

MolarMauler · 07-24-2007 06:43 AM

Is the change with Respeccing granting only memorized prices going to kill your respec scheme? I'm too lazy to try and figure it out but I think they got rid of your exploit (or at least made it a lot less profitable).

Ozmosis · 07-24-2007 09:30 AM

Depends. I'm not sure at this moment if the selling price for the IO during a respec will be set at the price the IO was made at, or the price it would cost the respeccee* to build it.

*Didnt know how to call a person doing a respec. So sue me

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The price of Invention Enhancements, when sold through the process of a respec is now based on memorized prices, not the normal build price.

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Ack! NVM, I guess it's universal. It will always be sold at the memorized prices.

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Fulmens · 07-24-2007 02:57 PM

It takes some zing out of the "buy cheap and respec" plan and totally deflates the "sit at home building and respeccing" plan.

Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.

So you think you're a hero, huh.
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Gargonix · 07-24-2007 10:36 PM

You can still get common IO's cheap off the market and respec sell them. How much you make each time was pretty much cut in half. I think the change was so you couldn't just craft yourself 'money'. How would repsec selling SO's work (if you can get them cheap from the market)?

Teh_Siph · 07-28-2007 04:01 PM

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Frozen_Horizon · 07-29-2007 03:18 PM

HI guys....

Just got back from vacation.

Lemme guess...while I was gone, they made a patch that made the memorized Common I/Os non-profitable now?...at least that is what I just read from your post there.

I hope not.....If so, I still have more tricks up my sleeve....unless those got taked away too.

Here is to hoping not.....Logging on to find out in a bit...time to unpack.

Teh_Siph · 07-29-2007 06:31 PM

Welcome Back, i just got it, but the amount to make/buy the I/O's is the either the same amount or more than selling the I/O's. I need more Tricks!! =D

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PiIsYourFfriend · 07-30-2007 12:51 PM

would we be able to sell the ios in a respec that wasn't a vet reward? i still at 6 months, and the first vet respec is at 9, but i have a good load of chars, and with the freespec that was just handed to all chars, i wondered if i could use it.

Frozen_Horizon · 08-07-2007 07:06 PM

I have been poking around here lately and have not been working the market very much...I petered myself out and now Im starting to get back to it. I still do my other tricks that work, but only rarely.

I will be posting some updates soon....stay tuned!

Conker · 08-08-2007 07:22 AM

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After you put out the guide... I wasn't lazy. There were no Thunderstrike RECIPES for sale... only million-infl crafted IOs.

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I noticed this same phenomenon (doo-doo-do-do-do), when I was looking for crushing impact IOs the other day. It seems that many people are trying to do the same thing which reduces the supply for little old me who actually wants to craft the stuff themselves.

Cheers,
Conker

ColdSnapps · 08-10-2007 11:14 AM

I tried this on the villain side, and found it to be a good bit slower than simply farming cash. The biggest problem redside is that you have to run to Nerva to respec... for a level 3, that means running from Kalinda to the Black Helicopter, then running diagonally through Cap au Diable, then hoofing to the respec agent in Nerva. The run alone was a good 10-15 minutes.

I purchased 8 50s and 2 45s for about 90k, and pulled out just over 1M influence after the respec. Considering the time spent shopping on the market, transfering the enhancements, leveling up to 3, running to Nerva, then transfering the cash back... it would have been several times faster for me to just blitz Borea missions and sell the recipe drops at the vendor.

Good thought for players who don't have a 45+ character to farm with, but for those with farmers, simple mission blitzing is the way to go.

Nonexistence · 08-11-2007 12:41 AM

Yes, it seems this guide has alot of users...could it be frozen horizon is using it to manipulate the market? Could it all be a scam to make him richer? is positron my mother? I smell a plot twist in this thread...

Frozen_Horizon · 08-11-2007 03:30 PM

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Yes, it seems this guide has alot of users...could it be frozen horizon is using it to manipulate the market? Could it all be a scam to make him richer? is positron my mother? I smell a plot twist in this thread...

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I am Positron....and you have dis'd my mama!!!!!

/ban

LOL...jk

No, this guide is really just me trying to help out others with some money making tips....thats all. Its nowhere near all the stuff I know, but Im sure this guide alone has helped a few heroes increase their income.

Bill122570 · 08-13-2007 05:29 PM

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simply farming cash.

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Dirk_Divac · 08-14-2007 08:05 AM

They are called money trees! Duh!

mulletman · 08-15-2007 12:12 PM

Thanks for the guide, Frozen! I have a 50 blue side, but for my budding new villain, this has helped a lot. At lvl 6, he had over 60k just from buying salvage and selling it for profit at stores.

Frozen_Horizon · 08-15-2007 03:54 PM

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Thanks for the guide, Frozen! I have a 50 blue side, but for my budding new villain, this has helped a lot. At lvl 6, he had over 60k just from buying salvage and selling it for profit at stores.

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I have found this the best way to get started on the Red side as well....especially if you dont have a Sugar Daddy to help with funds.

Frozen_Horizon · 08-24-2007 02:59 AM

**UPDATE**

[u]The Buddy System[u]

This method is not for everyone, but it sure does work wonders for me!

Requirements:
1 mission that is "farmable" (preferably arcane drop based)
1 level 47-50 hero/villain
2 CoH/CoV accounts....(1 main account and 1 trial account will do)
(Optional) When your buddy logs off for the night/day/lunch/etc..., invite him to your team and have em afk in the SG base.

Step 1: Invite your 2nd account to your team, or your buddy, or both.

Step 2: Set your "farmable" mission and enter it with ONLY your main Farmer. (2nd and 4th mission difficulties are better)

Step 3: Once inside your mission, the spawn size should be "bigger"....especially if you have your 2nd account and your "buddies" account on your team. **Thus, increasing the chances for drops**

Step 4: For optimum Influence/Infamy gain, run out of SG mode during the whole mission.

Step 5: Run through the mission arresting everything in sight, and collect those PHAT Recipes/Arcane Salvages all for yourself! (Just remember, do not complete the main objective of your mission.)

Step 6: When finished, exit the mission and reset it.....Then do it all over again, and again, and again.

Once you have your salvage/recipe trays full, here are your next options:

*Sell all common I/O recipes to NPC's to recieve the full amounts. (75k-100K+ influence per recipe) Selling at WW's may not yield you as good of results as selling to the NPC's.

*Sell off your salvage at WWs....some of the more common salvage you can make more by selling to the NPCs as well...Results will vary.

*Set I/Os......Any of the "very common" sets, sell to the NPCs. (Trap of the Hunter, Essence of Curare, etc...) Any GOOD Recipes you get, either sell them....OR....Craft them and place them in the market for sell.

Basically....all you are doing is setting yourself up to get bigger spawns, thus increasing the "drop rate" of recipes/salvage....while gaining "FULL INFLUENCE" for each kill (not partial like on a team)

**Remember...your 2nd account and/or your buddies account NEVER enter the mission at any time.**

I personally have been testing this now for quite a long time, and It works VERY WELL. I use my Ice/Fire/Pyre Tanker and AoE the mobs to death, making quick work of everything. With my mission set up for 2 players, I can rake in around 15-30+ salvage and 10-20+ recipes per run. With it set up for 3 members, It is not uncommon to almost fill up my salvage storage before the mission ends.

Between running out of SG Mode to gain Influence and selling salvage/recipes after every mission, I can EASILY profit 3-6 million....if not more per run.

Some missions I can get 2 Rare Salvages which sell for 2-5million, or a good Crushing Impact or Doctored Wounds recipe that I will craft and Sell for 2-4 million.....Which in turn can make your profits SKYROCKET!!!!

Its not uncommon for me to profit 10-15 million if I get some good drops in one run. An average run takes me 20-30 minutes to complete.....3-15 million for 30 minutes is pretty good profit if you ask me.