Discussion: Poll for Power Set Feedback!
Positron explicitly stated that Pistols will never be a scrapper or stalker set. We may eventually see it for Corruptors or possibly Blasters.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
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Here are some suggestions that are not in the poll, since they asked for that as well.
Alter Physical Structure powers: As many sets as you want to put into the game, each based on a different type of material/energy/element. Quite a few are well suited to Tankers. EG: Alter Physical structure: Metal, Stone, Crystal.
But anything goes here. Fire, water, ice, light, plasma, smoke...etc., etc. Some would be very difficult to code, others probably wouldn't take much at all.
Another possibility; Stretching/Elasticity, aka Mr. Fantastic. All sorts of possibilities here, from ranged attacks ( stretching out fists? For a scrapper?!!?), to defense bonuses, hold attacks, and fun travel power options (Tweak Super Jump to bouncing like a ball.)
That's all for now. If I think of some more, I'll post em.
All those powers are cool and all but what i really want for a melee power set is whips. Whips would be awesome! Also earth blasting would be cool for future too!
Okay, first, I do want more weapons...
I really, really, really do...
but seriously guys...can Scrappers get some power based stuff first?
Psy weaponry (so long as we aren't saddled with a device that focuses it) is a good idea.
Energy Blade could be good unless it is the light saber gadget style, same with Electric Hammer: if it is a hammer made of electrical powers, cool...if it is an electrified hammer...same old same old...
Now, I'll tell you the special effects we need for scrapper now that you're offering us Psychic:
Fire
Ice
Energy
Electricity
Radiation
Give us two or three power sets from those special effects (we don't NEED the ATs to "own" any special effects any more, their roles are well-defined enough that we can finally escape that limit) THEN go back to the plethora of weapons.
Weapons are easy, just look to real life, but they're also the same thing as what we got already.
I don't care if it is a whip, a spear, a shield, a pair of knives, a pistol or even a pair of kamas....
A weapon is a weapon is a weapon is a weapon.
Look at the ATs and their pool of special effect in the primaries:
Blaster:
Skill/Weapon-User x2
Fire
Ice
Electricity
Energy
Sonic
Controller
Energy (gravity)
Fire
Ice
Earth
Psychic x2
Defender
Psychic
Air
Radiation
Dark
Skill/Weapon-User
Energy (kinetics/Force Field)
Sonic
Tanker
Skill/Weapon-User
Earth
Ice
Fire
Scrapper
Skill/Weapon User x4
Toxic
Dark
Blaster: 6 special effects, Controller 5 special effects, Defender 6 special effects, Tanker 4 special effects, Scrapper 3 special effects
Throw in secondaries:
Blaster
Skill/Weapon User
Fire
Ice
Electricity
Energy
Controller
Radiation
Energy (kinets/force field)
Skill/Weapon-User
Air
Psychic
Sonic
Defender
Dark
Psychic
Skill/Weapon-User
Electricity
Energy
Radiation
Sonic
Tanker
Skill/Weapon-User x3 (includes super strength)
Energy
Fire
Earth
Ice
Scrapper
Skill/Weapon-User x2
Dark
Regen
Now: Blaster 6 special effects, Controller 9 (NINE!) special effects, Defender 7 special effects, Tanker 6 special effects, Scrapper 4 special effects
Now look at ratios skill/weapon compared to total sets:
Blaster: 3/12 (25%) total power sets dedicated to skills/weapons
Controller: 1/13 (7.7%) total power sets dedicated to skills/weapons
Defender: 2/16 (12.5%) total power sets dedicated to skills/weapons
Tanker: 4/11 (36.4%) total power sets dedicated to skills/weapons
Scrapper: 6/10 (60%) total power sets dedicated to skills/weapons
SIXTY PERCENT OF THE POWERS ARE THE SAME SPECIAL EFFECT/FLAVOR!!!!
SIXTY PERCENT!!
So...give me my fire, ice, energy, electricity, radiation, psychic, vibration and so on special effects for scrapper
THEN start giving me more weapons and unarmed styles
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I voted Shield Melee/Shield Defense...
I want those two powers over all other rumored powersets incoming since the game began. Ever since we saw Blue steel in KR we, my wife and I that is, have wanted a pair of Shield Scrappers...
I woul dlove to see this happen!
Elvnsword
"when i can savagely beat sheep while issuing ultimatums and torturing people, then i may go back into it" -vara nocturne
Not enough Evil...
I take it back NC SOFT is enough evil for anyone...
I would like them to change the force field style...its green and ugly...they should make the force fields like the ones in fantastic four that Sue Storm has..that would be cool. i dont really like the graphics of the ones now..
do yall agree??
growth doesnt seem reasonable
and no offense neither does water
From what you have listed I really like
Eletric Hammer and Ball and Chain for offensive
Willpower and Vibration for defensive
I would LOVE to see whips, chain, things of that nature.
Personally I'd rather not see Shields unless they combine Forcefield and the Shield into a Forceshield set. It will be a translucent energy circle like the one Cap carried when he lost his Vibranium/Adamantium one. Now that I'd take... regualr shield = meh.
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However, i have to say...What? No water melee/defense sets?}
A water powerset would be so cool, the graphics on it would be awesome!
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It would be pretty cool to have a water power set..it should have great graphics and just different. like a water aura would be pretty tight..like having water just flow around you...that would be awesome!!! DO IT!!!
Well I always thought wings should be a power pool with both offensive and defensive sets. I think we've already seen what a hit they are in game, why not make a useful set. I particulary like how they were used as a weapon in Underworld 2. Loved the way he pearced and stabbed people with his wings.
Best Regards,
AngelBurst
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I love some of the ideas for the new powersets. But there's something bigger(and probably harder) that I'd rather see, and that's the ability to customize how a power looks.
For example, the ability to pick the size of your katana, or the number/shape/length of your claws, or the color of the flames my fire aura gives off, etc.
I would assume this would take a ton of resources, but man it'd be cool.
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I agree completely...i mean i know it'd take alot to do it but it would be awesome to be able to customize your powers...i think alot of ppl would like that..i mean everyone with the same power is the same...there should be slight differences with everyone with everything...but thats just my opinion.
Yeah I agree on that Vagrantwind, like the way hers look way better. I got to see them in High Def today on the new Trailer, looked awsome.
Best Regards,
AngelBurst
Hello,
Everyone has some pretty good ideas and theories on what the new powersets should look like. Me, personally, I like the ball and chain and growth ideas. B/C, definitely a cool concept and growth...for us oldies who clung onto our Sega Genesis systems and the legendary Alter Beast...
POWER UP!!! (thats how I see the growth power, more of a physical growth in muscle mass with each power , rather then a giantess growth) What do you all think, can you all see a 8-person team of 10-foot muscled giants/giantesses!? :P
Its difficult to make a choice when u have name of a power set only. A discription of power effects would allow onto choose better.
For example: Electric hammer: will one of the power AOE attack that drains end but allows moderate damage.
Another power AOE for electric hammer is a thunder clap that stuns and reduces ACC .
An extreame attack would be a hammer throw in which u throw the hammer at foe and does extreme damage and some end reduction. the n the hammer returns to u.
But without decription of possible powers its diffuclt to make a choice.
Thank,
COH/COV is going to have to make major changes to compete with the upcoming release of both Marvel Comics and DC Comics own MMO's.
I would like to see these powers available to heroes:
Blaster Primary Powers: 1. Dark Blast 2. Psychic Blast 3. Radiation Blast
Blaster Secondary Powers: 1. lasso
Controllers Primary Powers: 1. Plant Control
Controllers Secondary Powers: 1. Dark Miasma 2. Poison 3. Traps 4. Cold Domination 5. Thermal Radiation 6. lasso
Defenders Primary Powers: 1. Poison 2. Traps 3. Cold Domination 4. Thermal Radiation 5. lasso
Defenders Secondary Powers: 1. Assault Rifle 2. Fire Blast 3. Ice Blast 4. Radiation Blast
Scrappers Primary Powers: 1. Battle Axe 2. Electrical Melee 3. Energy Melee 4. Fiery Melee 5. Ice Melee 6. Stone Melee 7. Super Strength 8. War Mace
Scrappers Secondary Powers: 1. Electrical Armor 2. Energy Aura 3. Fiery Aura 4. Ice Armor 5. Ninjitsu 6. Stone Armor 7. lasso
Tankers Primary Powers: 1. Dark Armor 2. Electrical Armor 3. Energy Armor 4. Ninjitsu 5. Regeneration 6. Super Reflexes 7. lasso
Tankers Secondary Powers: 1. Broadsword 2. Claws 3. Dark Melee 4. Electrical Melee 5. Katana 6. Martial Arts 7. Spines
Here are some Villain powers I'd like to see available:
Brute Primary Powers: 1. Battle Axe 2. Broadsword 3. Claws 4. Ice Melee 5. Martial Arts 6. Ninja Blade 7. Spines 8. War Mace
Brute Secondary Powers: 1. Ice Armor 2. Ninjitsu 3. Regeneration 4. Super Reflexes 5. lasso
Stalker Primary Powers: 1. Battle Axe 2. Broadsword 3. Electrical Melee 4. Fiery Melee 5. Ice Melee 6. Stone Melee 7. Super Strength 8. War Mace
Stalker Secondary Powers: 1. Electrical Armor 2. Fiery Aura 3. Ice Armor 4. Invulnerability 5. Stone Armor 6. lasso
Mastermind Secondary Powers: 1. Electricity Manipulation 2. Empathy 3. Energy Manipulation 4. Fire Manipulation 5. Ice Manipulation 6. Kinetics 7. Radiation Emission 8. Sonic Resonance 9. lasso
Dominator Primary Powers: 1. Earth Control 2. Illusion Control 3. Storm Summoning
Corruptor Primary Powers: 1. Archery 2. Electrical Blast 3. Psychic Blast
Corruptor Secondary Powers: 1. Electricity Manipulation 2. Empathy 3. Energy Manipulation 4. Force Field 5. Poison 6. Trick Arrow 7. lasso
Under Ninjitsu, I'd like to see Caltraps replaced by Web Grenade so you can have a character with Danger Sense and Web Grenade.
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<Revised> "Martial Arts" Set as shown above or similar.
<New> "ShapeShifting" (Animal Morphing or Sublimation)
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Shapeshifting would be AWESOME!!! that would be a very interesting power...like ppl going around being able to change their form even when they arent fighting. I think the ppl of COH should put that into consideration!
what do yall think??
i would really like to see the psionic weapon and willpower set
definatly nothing with sheilds
I voted for psionic weaponry and force fields
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Having played an invulnerable/superstrength tank to level 50, I would like to see the Willpower set include at least some small or not so small level of resistance to psionics.
I scraped the base of frustration trying to tank against AVs such as the Clockwork King, only to die to a psionic alpha strike, with no protection against it whatsoever.
Additionally, an ability to exercise some level of "mind control" over minions would be cool as well.
Energy Blade all the way! Yay!
Dual blades sounds good too.
i think you should add a bo staff for scrappers and was kinda digging the ball and chain and elec hammer. do what yah do :P
I was thinking a morphing melee set would be fun. For instance hammer thrust (hand morphs into a hammer), axe slice (hand morphs into an axe), blade spin (you get the picture), etc.
For defense a materials powerset. For instance diamond skin (final power temperarily impervious) stone skin (lethal, smashing protection), silicon (psi portection), etc
In addition to adding powers to the existing archetypes, I'd like to see a new hero/villain archetype called The Veteran. This could be the 48 month Veteran Reward.
Instead of just the normal two power pools to pick from, The Veteran has five power pools to choose powers from.
Power Pool One: 1. Archery 2. Assault Rifle 3. Dark Blast 4. Electrical Blast 5. Energy Blast 6. Fire Blast 7. Ice Blast 8. Psychic Blast 9. Radiation Blast 10. Sonic Attack
Power Pool Two: 1. Earth Control 2. Fire Control 3. Gravity Control 4. Ice Control 5. Illusion Control 6. Mercenaries (villains)/ Soldiers (heroes) 7. Mind Control 8. Necromancy (villains)/ Spirit Wardens (heroes) 9, Ninjas 10. Plant Control 11. Robotics 12. Storm Summoning 13. Thugs (villains)/ Sidekicks (heroes)
Power Pool Three: 1. Dark Miasma 2. Devices (heroes)/ Traps (villains) 3. Electricity Manipulation 4. Empathy 5. Energy Manipulation 6. Fire Manipulation 7. Force Field 8. Ice Manipulation 9. Kinetics 10. Poison (villains)/ Chemistry (heroes) 11. Radiation Emmission 12. Sonic Resonance 13. Thorny Assault 14. Trick Arrow 15. lasso
Power Pool Four: 1. Battle Axe 2. Broad Sword 3. Claws 4. Dark Melee 5. Electrical Melee 6. Energy Melee 7. Fiery Melee 8. Ice Melee 9. Katana (heroes)/ Ninja Blade (villains) 10. Martial Arts 11. Spines 12. Stone Melee 13. Super Strength 14. War Mace
Power Pool Five: 1. Dark Armor 2. Electrical Armor 3. Energy Aura 4. Fiery Aura 5. Ice Armor 6. Invulnerability 7. Ninjitsu 8. Regeneration 9. Stone Armor 10. Super Reflexes
i'm upset that Dual Pistols wasn't a choice. i think Dual Pistols would be a good close range powerset for a scrapper or stalker. if you are going to poll us , put our requests on the poll as well. Please.