Plasma's Ultimate Guide to Kheldians (v1)
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Anarchist_Kitten,
Posted on: 2007-01-20 10:07 in Player Guides
If you do tri form I wouldn't take stamina just slot a few end mods in nova (I have two) and take conserve power and you'll be fine
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I had a stamina-less build, but eventually switched to a stamina build and was glad.
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I was just wondering if you were changing your mind on preferring a Stamina-less PB? I used to loathe Stamina sucking up three of my slots on any characters but lately I have been experimenting with Stamina builds and I have to admit a preference for them. I just started a PB this week and already I hate the idea of giving up any of the powers for Stamina.
By the way, this is an awesome guide and it has really helped me get over my hesitation to starting a Kheldian. There are way too many powers and forms without any sort of in-game help. Your guide has been a huge help.
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Typically if a PB is taking Stamina, they are an all-human build since the human form is the only form that benefits from Stamina.
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I had a stamina-less build, but eventually switched to a stamina build and was glad.
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I was just wondering if you were changing your mind on preferring a Stamina-less PB? I used to loathe Stamina sucking up three of my slots on any characters but lately I have been experimenting with Stamina builds and I have to admit a preference for them. I just started a PB this week and already I hate the idea of giving up any of the powers for Stamina.
By the way, this is an awesome guide and it has really helped me get over my hesitation to starting a Kheldian. There are way too many powers and forms without any sort of in-game help. Your guide has been a huge help.
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My most recent build has used stamina, and has miracle and numina slotted into health. It means I tend to have a glut of end, whereas with my older build, when conserve energy wasn't up, you'd end up having to at least rest after a fight.
My plan, basically, was to get to 38 (36 now), which is when I'll be slotting sets en masse, and respec out of it and see how it feels. Basically, I think that any level you have conserve and slot your commonly used attacks with sets that include a decent endred component (say, 45%+), you should be okay without stamina. I think in the late game when I have my recharge fully buffed out, I may actually slot essence boost with: Heal/Rech, Heal/Rech, Heal/Rech, Heal/Rech (from the 4 highest level sets that have that), and then numina: +r/+r, miracle +recovery. Since my fully buffed recharge (especially if I get some purple sets in) will keep essence boost close to 120s. The alternative in a stamina-less build would be to slot it into reform essence, but I hate having to drop 10 end if I don't actually need the heal, whereas I want EB up almost all the time.
So, to sum up, still on the fence. I've done it with and without, and certainly, IOs makes it easier to go without; but this time around I just left out some non-essential powers and put stamina in.
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Great guide. Thanks so much Plasma.
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Any chance of getting builds that reflect the new IO system. I imagine that would change the way Kheldians work substantially, much like the way the Hami build does.
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Any chance of getting builds that reflect the new IO system. I imagine that would change the way Kheldians work substantially, much like the way the Hami build does.
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Yes. I rerolled both my Khelds when I9 rolled, mostly to play them and experiment with IOs and new content.
Both are in the high 30s now and an update is fairly imminent. There are a bunch of other things that need updating, too, but IOs are certainly the *big* change. For sure, they make warshades... well... awesome. They also make triforming better than ever.
I have a IOed out WS build I'm running at 50 (that isn't too prohibitively expensive) that I can drop in here if you want some ideas; no LotG, so cheap enough that it can be afforded without too much grinding post-50, but lots of room for expensive replacements as you get them too. PM me if you're interested, not gonna interrupt your thread 
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IOs are certainly the *big* change. For sure, they make warshades... well... awesome. They also make triforming better than ever.
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Love your guide, this is what I am really waiting to see..... IOs one a Warshade....
Reddy Kilowatt
Children of Data
2nd SG on Infinity
Earth Tech
Desert Princess
Bloody Decker
(and that is only some of the ones on Infinity)
I don't understand the /bind for TP Warshade using Shift+LClick
Is there any simple way to type /bind (whatever i need to type) to make it so i can shift+Lclick in both forms to TP?
Because i'm making a warshade soon, (Just about to hit lv50!!!)
and i want to know how to do the binds.
THANK YOU
<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>/bind SHIFT+LBUTTON "powexec_name Black Dwarf Step$$powexec_name Shadow Step"</pre><hr />
Thank you!!!
I just respected out of Nova and tried my new human form last night. I took your suggestions on the human form build and my PB is fantastic. Thanks for the guide. It was a lot of help. He was feeling a little gimped because I screwed up the slotting but the suggestions in your guide cleared that right up. Many thanks again Plasma.
pb_humanform.txt
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e "powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$bind SHIFT+LBUTTON powexec_name White Dwarf Step$$goto_tray 3$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_whitedwarf.txt"
q "powexec_toggleon Bright Nova$$goto_tray 4$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_nova.txt"
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pb_whitedwarf.txt
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e "powexec_toggleoff White Dwarf$$goto_tray 1$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_humanform.txt"
q "powexec_toggleoff White Dwarf$$powexec_toggleon Bright Nova$$goto_tray 4$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_nova.txt"
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pb_nova.txt
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e "powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$goto_tray 3$$powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_whitedwarf.txt"
q "powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$goto_tray 1$$bind_load_file c:\coh\pb_humanform.txt"
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I can not for the life of me get these to work. I have tried most everything, but everytime I get the error
Unable to read in keybind file: c:\coh\pb_humanform.txt
Any solutions or whatnot? It'd be greatly appreciated.
I think I ran into the same problem. I'll have to wait until I get out of work to confirm, but I think I got around this by-as insane as it sounds-throwing another set of quote marks around the file name; it has the odd effect of having back-to-back quotation marks at the end of that bind.
Of course, my Kheld isn't quite up to 20 yet, so I haven't been able to test the dwarf form binds at this time.
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I think I ran into the same problem. I'll have to wait until I get out of work to confirm, but I think I got around this by-as insane as it sounds-throwing another set of quote marks around the file name; it has the odd effect of having back-to-back quotation marks at the end of that bind.
Of course, my Kheld isn't quite up to 20 yet, so I haven't been able to test the dwarf form binds at this time.
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Do you have anymore detail into this? I am quite confused still. 
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I think I ran into the same problem. I'll have to wait until I get out of work to confirm, but I think I got around this by-as insane as it sounds-throwing another set of quote marks around the file name; it has the odd effect of having back-to-back quotation marks at the end of that bind.
Of course, my Kheld isn't quite up to 20 yet, so I haven't been able to test the dwarf form binds at this time.
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Do you have anymore detail into this? I am quite confused still.
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I don't have any advice, since it just works for me - but I think he is saying
bindloadfile 'c:\coh\pb_humanform.txt'"
(so that's [single-quote]c:\coh...[single-quote][double-quote]
If not, maybe he is saying use double quotes instead of single quotes, which seems bizarre.
Is this your initial /bindloadfile from the command line in game that is failing, or is it failing when you actually try to switch forms?
As insane as it sounds, yeah, double quotes.
Here's the specific bind I use to go from nova back to human. I derived the basics from the Tri-Form Warshade guide, but it didn't work until I threw on the quotes around the file name.
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v "powexec_toggleoff Dark Nova$$goto_tray 1$$bind q powexec_name Shadow Step$$bind_load_file "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\Binds\ws_humanform.txt""
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I don't know why it works, or why it didn't work without 'em, but this is what I used to fix it.
EDIT: Upon hitting level 20, I discovered that these binds wouldn't cooperate for the Dwarf form. Doing some research, I discovered that the bind I have above shouldn't be working due to the spaces in my path names, so I needed to convert them to a DOS recognizable format. In short-ignore everything I've typed in, because it's not a full solution.
great post (lotta numbers...bad headache...must drink beer...)
Anyways, I've had a PB for a long time, just started playing my WS again, and I just have a quick question... It's not gameplay related at all, just more informative. Have you (or anyone else) ever found a Level Table for Kheldians? Like the one in the manual showing when you get your 4th primary power, when you get new insp slots, etc etc, but for Kheldians, since we get powers unlocked (I believe) every single power level. I've been looking for a while, just can't find one though...
The unlock levels are the same, but you sometimes unlock 2 powers rather than 1. The "Available" field in the original post shows what level powers become available. For example, both Bright Nova and Radiant Strike become available at level 6.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
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great post (lotta numbers...bad headache...must drink beer...)
Anyways, I've had a PB for a long time, just started playing my WS again, and I just have a quick question... It's not gameplay related at all, just more informative. Have you (or anyone else) ever found a Level Table for Kheldians? Like the one in the manual showing when you get your 4th primary power, when you get new insp slots, etc etc, but for Kheldians, since we get powers unlocked (I believe) every single power level. I've been looking for a while, just can't find one though...
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My guide has the available levels of each power, although I don't post them just in a list for that info.
I loved the guide and once I get mine unlocked I'm certainly gonna put some of your ideas to the test. However I was rather hurt by your comment that Fire tanks suck. I don't suck. :'(
Just kidding. I'm squishy and there are huge holes in the primary, which is what I assume you meant. It's personally my favourite out of the tanker sets, however, and I would argue that it doesn't suck, however, it's just not as immediately powerful as the others. You have to know what your weaknesses are, take a few powers to fill them, and be prepared to rely on your self heal. Not terribly dissimilar to a Kheldian.
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I loved the guide and once I get mine unlocked I'm certainly gonna put some of your ideas to the test. However I was rather hurt by your comment that Fire tanks suck. I don't suck. :'(
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It's pretty important to note that I wrote that before Healing Flames was buffed, and it was a heck of a buff. Also, IOs can benefit self-heals quite a bit, so my opinion of fire tanks has gone up quite a bit. (At the time, dwarf form had 25% more resistance than a fire tank to all but fire damage and a comparable heal, but Healing Flames is a lot stronger now).
Yeah, I noticed it was a lot better than I remembered it being. I took a good chunk of time off and, looking at it now, your guide was likely also written some time after the Burn nerf, which really hurt the primary, imo.
I'm just giving you a hard time. Seriously, one of the best guides I've read for any class in any game I've played for along time.
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I had a stamina-less build, but eventually switched to a stamina build and was glad.
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I was just wondering if you were changing your mind on preferring a Stamina-less PB? I used to loathe Stamina sucking up three of my slots on any characters but lately I have been experimenting with Stamina builds and I have to admit a preference for them. I just started a PB this week and already I hate the idea of giving up any of the powers for Stamina.
By the way, this is an awesome guide and it has really helped me get over my hesitation to starting a Kheldian. There are way too many powers and forms without any sort of in-game help. Your guide has been a huge help.